(2007-03-14) — Former President Bill Clinton today added his voice to the chorus calling for Gen. Peter Pace to apologize for remarks in a recent interview in which he branded some kinds of behavior as “immoral“, and said the military should not condone immorality of any kind.
In a newspaper interview, Gen. Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, mentioned adultery and homosexual behavior as examples of immorality.
President Clinton, who served as Commander in Chief for two tours of duty, instituted the military policy called ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ which officially allows homosexuals to serve in the armed forces as long as they lie about their behavior and don’t get caught in the act.
“Gen. Pace’s antiquated ideas could have a chilling effect on military recruiting,” said Mr. Clinton. “In addition, there’s a real risk that the general has hurt the feelings of many who love this country and are willing to fight for our freedom to have intimate relations without so-called moral boundaries.”
Mr. Clinton noted that if the nation had Gen. Pace’s attitude toward adultery just a few years ago, “we would have lost the valiant service of one of history’s greatest commanders in chief.”
“The military desperately needs brave men and women with the character, integrity and dignity that their colleagues can count on in times of war,” said Mr. Clinton, “But Gen. Pace essentially hung out a sign that says, ‘adulterers, homosexuals and liars need not apply.’”
He urged the general to “count the cost of his narrow views.”
“Gen. Pace should acknowledge that he was wrong,” said Mr. Clinton, “and tell all Americans that his remarks constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on his part for which he is solely and completely responsible.”
In related news, the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, an advocacy group for homosexuals in the military, issued a terse statement condemning Gen. Pace’s remarks, saying, “Gay troops are highly offended at the general’s comparison between us and people like former President Clinton.”
58 responses so far ↓
1 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 7:40 am
God Bless America!!!
2 diamond jim // Mar 14, 2007 at 7:53 am
These unwarranted comments by Gen. pace will kill recruiting efforts in California , New York , Illinois and Nevada.
Good.
3 camojack // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:01 am
“Gay troops are highly offended at the general’s comparison between us and people like former President Clinton.”
Who could blame them?
4 Hawkeye // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:04 am
What a dolt that Gen. Pace is, eh? How dare he hold personal opinions! How dare he maintain values and traditions that are hundreds of years old! What an old fuddy-duddy.
5 seneuba // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:08 am
Bill Clinton: A legend in his own mind.
6 Hawkeye // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:15 am
Bill Clinton: A legend in his own slime.
7 Cusmar // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:22 am
Nail head, meet hammer.
8 Hawkeye // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:24 am
And worse yet, how dare Gen. Pace abide by a law he personally disagrees with! Everyone knows we must all AGREE with every law that was ever written!
9 Shelly // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:35 am
I wonder if he’ll protest those questioning his serial adultery/assault if he becomes the “first man?” Technically that’s not a military position, will morals, or Clinton’s complete lack thereof, still be a problem? I for one truly hope this country doesn’t have to live through that utter embarrasment again. On the other hand it was the first step towards my becoming a Republican, so it may add to our rolls.
10 MargeinMI // Mar 14, 2007 at 8:52 am
HooRah!
11 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:44 am
Do you think that Mr. Clinton would help me on a philosophical issue? Since adultery and homosexuality are ok, does that mean that alcoholism, drug addiction, beastiality and polygamy are ok as well? And if all these things are ok, can President Bush partake in any or all of these behaviors without repercussion from the left?
If the general had spoken his opinion in the woods and there was no liberal there to witness it, did he really say anything controversial?
12 Shelly // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:58 am
c-a-t, Clinton would tell you that all of those things are okay for Dems, but not Republicans. Just as it is okay for a Democratic Congressman to have physical relationships with pages, but it is wrong for a Republican Congressmen to even discuss anatomy. Democrats can stuff national security documents into their pants and later destroy them, but if a Republican mentions that Joe Wilson is married to Valerie Plame he should rot in jail. Clinton can fire 93 federal prosecutors, but if Bush fires 8 for not adequately performing their jobs he should be impeached. And if a Dem Prez has an outrageous affair with a woman roughly the age of his daughter, his wife can blame it on the “vast right wing conspiracy” which she still wants to see jailed.
13 upnorthlurkin // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:26 am
In my bigotted (superior..heh, heh) opinion, we need more people in this country with the guts to stand up and express their views on morality….in other words, we need more Ann Coulters, Mark Levins and General Paces!! Time for us silent majority types to learn to shout down the miscreants on the other side!! I think the resulting outrage from the fringe lefties would open the eyes of those who courageously call themselves moderates!
14 Just Ranting // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:30 am
Doesn’t it all come down to knowing what the meaning of “is” is? I mean really, suppose General Pace thinks someone “is” a homosexual, and they say they “is” in the military, would they be truly immoral, or just grammatically incorrect? Seems to me we shouldn’t be kicking people out of the military because of a failure in our school system.
And suppose a soldier is digging a trench in the hot sun, and asks another soldier to put sunscreen on his back. If their drill sargent sees this and assumes they are slathering each other up for non-military reasons, is that a reason to drum them out of the service? Should they be kicked out just for trying to protect themselves from the affects of global warming?
I understand the military doesn’t want soldiers marching to the beat of, “We’re here! We’re queer! Get used to it!” But some accomodations should be made. After all, didn’t we learn anything from Brokeback Mountain?
15 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:35 am
And the good general owes an apology to prostitutes. How dare he make such moral judgments!
There are no such things as absolutes … excepting absolute statements like this.
16 RedPepper // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:56 am
Just Ranting #14: A pleasure to see that someone here actually gets it! Why, judging from the uh, ranting (sorry!) of the troglodyte-like christofascistic wing-nuts who comment on this blog, you would think that the purpose of the military was to kill people & break things, rather than provide paid career training and serve as a model platform for social experimentation! The nerve!
/s
17 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:01 am
Darthmeister: You are absolutely wrong!
Redpepper: “Who you talkin’ about, Willis??”
18 RedPepper // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:08 am
Mr Ott: Have you failed to adjust your computer clocks to the new, new officially government-approved pre-emptive Daylight Savings Time? Tsk, tsk! You are running a serious risk of having a non-binding resolution passed upon your disobedient, snarky self!
A word to the wise guy …
19 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:23 am
Redpepper, when I got up this morning, it was dark and I had to turn on all of the lights. Before DST, I didn’t have to turn on the lights because it was light outside. Do you have the mathematical skills to explain to me how that is saving energy? Thanks in advance.
20 Shelly // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:24 am
What did we all have for breakfast?
21 RedPepper // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:26 am
c-a-t #17: It’s noticed, you know. Your attitude is noticed.
22 RedPepper // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:30 am
c-a-t #19: Clearly, you are not getting enough sleep. QED!
23 Ms RightWing, Ink // Mar 14, 2007 at 11:45 am
First, let me go on record as a DST fan. Wahoo, more light at night. Unlike the Minnesotans who get 20 hours of summer sun per day, we in the rust belt crave sunshine.
General Pace’s statement was a warm breeze upon our nation who is sliding towards Gomorah. Hey, let someone be gay, but say who you are and don’t try and change what little standards we have left.
’nuff said
24 Deerslayer // Mar 14, 2007 at 12:17 pm
C-A-T #19; As a matter of fact I do possess the necessary mathmatical skills and DST doesn’t save you a Lincoln Cent or Centavo. However; I do get to play 18 holes after work instead of 9.
(Bless those Bottomfeeders in Washington)
25 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 12:41 pm
Let’s see —- Pace is now saying that he regrets saying that Homosexuality is immoral because the left is upset that he gave his opinion.
John Warner of Va. isn’t regretful of his statement that Homosexuality is not immoral because the left is not upset that he gave his opinion.
Sooo——It appears that there is an addition to the first ammendment that I somehow missed. “And no individual shall express any opinion unless first approved by a liberal litmus test.”
I could swear that I remember some country called the USSR practicing that form of ‘free speech’. I may be wrong, but I really think that it used to be a real country. What happened to it, anyway?
26 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 12:47 pm
More liberal hypocrisy. From PowerLineBlog:
Matt Stoller is a blogger for the leftist blog MyDD. Or so I had believed. It turns out he’s much more — he’s a “thought leader in the internet wing of the progressive movement.” Sounds like a nice gig.
What thoughts has the leader been having? For one thing, he thinks that pressuring the Democratic party to cancel the Nevada presidential debate was justified because “Fox News is not a news channel, but a propaganda outlet that regularly distorts, spins, and falsifies information.”
What’s Stoller’s evidence? Well, for one thing the head of Fox News, Roger Ailes, was a political operative who worked for Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and the first president Bush. On the other hand, George Stephanopoulos, who runs ABC’s popular Sunday morning show was an operative for Bill Clinton. And the owner of Fox, Rupert Murdoch, has hosted a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Ailes’ ancient connection with Republican politicians hardly means that Fox News a Republican instrument.
Stoller also cites some memos old memos from a Fox News executive that contain themes favorable to President Bush and unfavorable to John Kerry. But a month before the 2004 election, ABC News director Mark Halperin wrote a memo in which he instructed his news organization to “step up” and help rescue John Kerry from attacks by the Bush campaign that Halperin thought were unfair. … CBS News didn’t need a memo to run pro-Kerry propaganda — it used phony documents as the basis for a story attacking President Bush’s service in the National Guard. Does this mean that ABC and CBS are propaganda organizations that are unfit to carry presidential debates?
27 everthink // Mar 14, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Hey dumb chums:
Did you see Dumbyah gravel, and crawl at that “News Conference in Mexico. Tell the truth doesn’t this guy just make you sick?
He says he’s proud of Gonzales (I guesss like Rummey and Browny), and that he’s gonna support him. Make room on the outbound bus for Gonzee! Say, is he even legal?
He says he’s a working hard with them Democrats to get better “Migration” laws. Oh yeah, we have plenty, thank you!
If you greedy Repugs wouldn’t hire ’em they’d stay home! Sad bunch …
ET
28 Bill's Bites // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Top General ‘Regrets’ Calling Gays Immoral — Update: Clinton Wants An Apology…
Pentagon Top General Expresses Regret, But Doesn’t Apologize After Homosexuality Comment WASHINGTON — The Pentagon’s top general expressed regret Tuesday that he called homosexuality immoral, a remark that drew a harsh condemnation from members of …
29 Rogue100 // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Mr Ott,
Ah did naut have sessual relations with that woman…How many tahmes do ah hafta say this?
Cain’t ya’ll unnerstand Ainglish?
Seriously though, beware of those who claim the Zogby poll points to servicemembers wanting gays in the military. To refute their dishonest use of the poll go here: Debunking the Left is Easy Cuz They Lie
30 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Did anyone notice the bigotry and intolerance in Neverthink’s diatribe? Why…I thought liberals didn’t judge anybody. Who’d a thunk it?
31 Just Ranting // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Perhaps General Pace should have ended his statement with, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
32 boberinyetagain // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I thought homosexuality could be “cured”
You’d think that the military with all it’s resouces could just “cure” the gays and do us all a favor, most of all the gays themselves.
As for it being akin to adultery, it’s only adultery because we won’t let them get married. Is the general implying that no “straight” folks in the military ever cheat on their spouses? And, if it’s equivalent then should we drum out any cheating Straights just to level the playing field? I’m soooo confused…….
Just a thought
33 GnuCarSmell // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Just to screw with their heads, Gen. Pace should have told the committee that he also considered global warming denial to be immoral (wink wink)
34 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Boberin, Boberin…he was talking about adultery adultery..you know..the kind where you go out and cheat on your wife. He said that adultery adultery is immoral. How did you miss that?
And as far as being cureable. Alcoholism and drug addiction and smoking is cureable too. So why do we have so many alcoholics and drug addicts and smokers? Because, Boberin, they don’t want to be cured. What do you think can be done about that? Tax them into rehab? Fine them into counseling? Lock them in the stocks until they change their ways? Ban them from being a part of society? If you haven’t already figured it out yet, nobody gets into recovery until they hurt bad enough and hit bottom.
I have homosexual friends and I have seen the change come when that bottom came. One of those friends was dying and accepted Christ and repented of his sinful life. That is pretty awesome and he died in peace.
35 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 2:06 pm
After suffering through John F’n Kerry’s monotonous drone about how American troops “shouldn’t be sacrificed so that Iraqi politicians can squabble” (therefore, pull them out now), only confirms what I’ve long suspected, Dhimmiecrats like Kerry are invested in our losing in Iraq. The word “victory” isn’t even in their Dhimmiecritter lexicon. Pathetic.
36 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 2:14 pm
bober, your cynicism is showing. Like smoking and alcoholism, you can’t “be cured of homosexuality” unless the person so afflicted wants to be cured. It’s a chosen lifestyle. The only way to “cure” them is to counter-brainwash them … apart from God’s miracle working grace, that is. And I certainly don’t recommend the former activity.
That’s why many of these “interventions” by well-meaning Christian couples regarding their “gay” children don’t work. If a person has bought into the brainwashing of liberal culture that homosexuality is completely natural and is in fact blessed by God as an alternative deathstyle, then no amount of Scripture reading, counter-brainwashing, military discipline or other persuasion which force a person to change their chosen lifestyle. It has to first come from the individual’s heart.
I have a friend who is a former homosexual and has had for years a ministry which helps people excape the homosexual deathstyle trap, and the first thing that is required of his patients is that they must personally recognize that the lifestyle they are engaged in is wrong and runs counter to the moral law of God.
37 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 2:16 pm
“which force” should read “will force”
38 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 4:28 pm
• Baghdad bomb deaths down 30 percent
Liars! They’re down 80%. Lamestream media is playing games with the term “bomb deaths.”
Iraqi military spokesman Brigadier Qassim Moussawi said the number of Iraqis killed by violence in Baghdad since February 14 was 265, down from 1,440 killed in the previous month.
39 boberinyetagain // Mar 14, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Hank, thanks for the laugh, I can count on you…
“former homosexual”
perhaps if he has been chemically or physically castrated but otherwise he just chose to bury the desire as so many beofre him have done
priceless, truly priceless!
40 everthink // Mar 14, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Henry,
That’s a very touching story about your “homosexual friend”.
Do tell more won’t you? I talked to people like you who’ve “had a friend” before. Just like that movie “Analyze This” several have said: I “have a gift”.
So you just get it off your chest pal. Come on out, and slam that closest door behind you!
Nobody’s gonna call you a fag, or nothing like that.
Your pal, but don’t stand too close.
ET
41 Harry Daschle // Mar 14, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Dimocrats want homos in the military, they just don’t want them on the Republican side of the aisle in Congress!
Remember Queen Pelosi saying, “Think of the children!” When helping oust the alleged “page molester”.
John Warner learned to love gays when “Jacko” used to stay overnight with him and Liz back when he was one of the many of Liz’s “significant others”.
42 da Bunny // Mar 14, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Gotta love how, when someone like a Gen. Pace speaks the truth, the usual suspects respond with their customary screaming and whining about how “normal” all of their pet perversions are. Adultery is “normal” behavior to liberals, homosexuality is “normal” behavior to liberals, infanticide [abortion] is “normal” for libs, lying is a “normal” act for a liberal, cutting-and-running instead of standing-and-defending is a “normal” liberal response…and on it goes. Anything that is right in the eyes of God is wrong in the eyes of the leftists.
43 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 14, 2007 at 6:47 pm
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.~~1Corinthians 2:14
44 Rock Slatestone // Mar 14, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Dems do not want morals unless it is dealing with “global warming”
45 beekabok1 // Mar 14, 2007 at 7:42 pm
off topic
Thanks so much to all of you for your prayers and your kind notes. God is still helping us to make day by day (hour by hour?). I don’t know if it was the fine people of here at Scrappleface that contacted angelsforhope.org but my son and my self have received no less than 10 of them.
Once again, thanks so much
Sincerely, John Schaeffer
46 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 7:47 pm
To the perverse all things are perverse. And you, neverthink, perfectly exemplify this Biblical truth. BTW, no one has ever accused me of being a cigarette before.
Kent and I went to the same church about eleven years ago, we’re both happily married, he fathered two sons with his wife of twenty-seven years and I three sons with my wife of 29 years. All our sons are well-adjusted heterosexuals and honor students. No scandal here … except in your perverted little mind.
47 eucher // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:02 pm
You do realize he meant Kennedy, Clinton being pretty sure that no one is aware he himself ever committed adultery.
48 woodnwheel // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:12 pm
On this morning’s 700 Club, Pat Robertson said: “I wrote a leading senator,* who said that this conduct [homosexuality] is not immoral. I said, ‘Perhaps it would be a sense of the Senate that God made a mistake when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.’” Considering the state of our public schools re. public acknowledgement of God (remember Abington v. Schempp, Stone v. Graham, et al.?) — not to mention Lawrence v. Texas — I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes to that in our lifetimes.
*See posts 25 & 41 if you’re stumped
49 everthink // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:49 pm
“To the perverse all things are perverse.”
Henry, where in the Holy Bible could I find that “biblical truth”?
Cigarette? That’s silly!
“All our sons are well-adjusted heterosexuals and honor students.”
You have reason to be proud. Have any of your sons worn their country’s uniform?
If one of your sons was homosexual, what would you do?
Henry, what how does your faith teach about Hermaphrodites?
ET
50 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Here’s an interesting interview with Dr. Harvey Klehr, PhD regarding the formerly secret Venona decryption programs and the new insights gained by honest academics as to how far Communist espionage penetrated the American government. Joseph McCarthy was absolutely right in pursuing this danger to American top secrets even though Dr. Klehr can’t quite bring himself to admitting this fact even knowing the actual menace Communism posed to the free world in the 1950s. Joe McCarthy was abandoned by the Republicans, villified by the Democrats, hounded and ridiculed by the media and was driven to drink. Though his methods of inquiry can be questioned by honest people, the fact remains that there were American traitors involved in Soviet espionage, they were caught and properly executed.
There is absolutely no doubt the Rosenbergs, Alger Hiss and hundreds of other Americans were guilty of being Commie spies. This fact holds some real implications considering the fact many leftist socialists who are the new generation of American-haters (and are now the mainstream of the Democratic party in some cases) continue to blindly insist on the “innocence” of both the Rosenbergs and Hiss despite the mountains of evidence from the Soviet archives themselves. Of course it was a vast right-wing conspiracy which forged all those Soviet documents. What moonbats!
51 everthink // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Curveball,
“You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
“… driven to drink.” The Democrats made me do it! And I guess the Democrats have driven Dumbyah to dumb. How about some mercy for Saddam, Rumsfeld made him do it, yeh know?
You are a trip! Bahwahwahhahabahwahwe!
ET
52 conserve-a-tips // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Neverthink, in humans, your physical deformity is very rare and in the case that it happens, neither set of organs is functional in most cases. So your point is????
I tell you what. How about if I tell you what scripture says exactly, word for word, not that you will actually listen to it:
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done…Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Romans 1:24-32
In otherwords, Neverthink, God allows us all the rope that we need to hang ourselves.
53 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Nobody’s gonna call you a fag, or nothing like that. Your pal, but don’t stand too close.
Listen up troll, the general principle of this verse is speaking to people like you who take honest and truthful witness and turn it into sick humor.
“To the pure all things are pure; but to those who are perverted and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient, and worthless for any good deed.” Titus 1:16.
This verse was originally given regarding the Judaizers of that day who were making declarations that Hebrew Christians should still observe Jewish dietary laws regarding “impure” foods. But the general principle clearly has application to those who twist good into something evil or declare the blessings from God to be impure. But I’m sure you aren’t the least bit interested in this since you seem quite bereft of any common decency to try and understand what I’m actually saying.
Hermaphrodite? Didn’t know that was a behavior, neverthink. There is no moral teaching concerning that unfortunate conditon - unless your impure and perverted imagination is running away with you. Are you going to regale us about the possibilities?
It is a genetic condition and there is no moral judgment made by Scripture concerning this unfortunate genetic mutation. But to be sure, this is not a “natural condition” since the fall of mankind has brought all kind of infirmity upon the human race such as this.
But what’s your faux concern, neverthink? Do you have a friend who is a hermaphrodite or are you simply being one of those loathesome Pharisee types who used to make it a practice to try and trip up Jesus with trick questions?
54 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Not trying to rehabilitate Joe McCarthy’s image, neverthink, just stating historical fact. McCarthy was driven deeper into drink because he was abandoned by cowardly Republicans, had his words twisted by the media and his political enemies, was literally hated by Democrats, relentlessly demonized by left-wing historians all of which still produces ill-informed media tools like you who suck down everything they read that has a liberal socialist tilt to it.
A lesser man like you would have slit his wrists given the pure hatred McCarthy had to endure despite being right about the Communist espionage within our own borders.
55 Darthmeister // Mar 14, 2007 at 10:57 pm
… and I also find it interesting that despite all the new evidence to the contrary Joe McCarthy is still demonized by the liberal socialist while they continue proclaiming the innocence of Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs.
56 everthink // Mar 15, 2007 at 12:20 am
Listen up yourself, Curveball:
We certainly do not share the same faith! You know some of the words, but you sing them to completely the wrong tune!
Likewise your view American government rips at the heart of freedom. It seems to me, you believe others are American only when they agree with you!
Have your sons served?
ET
57 vittles scooper // Mar 15, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Scott’s posting has just been quoted by Jonah Goldberg in the NRO’s The Corner re:Pace Owes an Apology
58 Lioni // Mar 16, 2007 at 6:22 pm
First, let me go on record as a DST fan. Wahoo, more light at night. Unlike the Minnesotans who get 20 hours of summer sun per day, we in the rust belt crave sunshine.
General Pace’s statement was a warm breeze upon our nation who is sliding towards Gomorah. Hey, let someone be gay, but say who you are and don’t try and change what little standards we have left.
Very good comments !
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