Hah! First!

first again...

Courtesy of the New York Times:

"The White House acknowledged for the first time today that President Bush relied on incomplete and perhaps inaccurate information from U.S. intelligence agencies when he declared, in his State of the Union speech, that Saddam Hussein had attempted to purchase uranium from Africa.

Netmarcos, my 9:44 was before your 9:44, but because your name comes mine alphabetically, well...I demand a recount!

Frenchy, get the facts right:
Bush said in his State of the Union address that the British government had learned that Saddam recently sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.

Frenchman...sounds so ironic.

Irony #2: Arc de Triomphe in Paris. Triumph in WHAT, conquering armies?

the other scott
frenchman putting a spin on the facts............imagine that.

His source WAS the New York Times. We should believe what it says, right?

Hi-Octane Oxymoron: "The French Paradox"

ugh.... if i was french i think i would keep it to myself. maybe try to pass myself off as an italian. or maybe an arab. ya know, someone a little more respectable.

...or pass myself off as dead.

..or as John F. Kerry.

The French looking senator from Massachusetts asked me to admonish 'The Other Scott' for failing to mention that he is a Vietnam veteran.

I have been properly (and quite brutally, I might add...am thinking of calling Amnesty International...) admonished for not noting that Senator John F. Kerry (who is a VietNam veteran, in case you hadn't heard) looks French. Possibly may be French, too.

other scott
lmaoooooooooooooo

Is there a connection?
1. Senator John F. Kerry, Presidential hopeful (whose hope is likely diminishing)looks French, or possibly is French.
2. Senator Kerry is a VietNam veteran, if you did not realize.
3. VietNam was a French colony/territory before they wimped out and left.

Coincidence? I smell a vast left-wing conspiracy!

Not to get off track here (LOL). But this award isn't far from happening. Heck Arafat is probably in the running for 2nd (or 3rd is it) Nobel. I here that after you kill 500 people the award is automatic. Frenchy, leave the Nuke and WMD arguments alone, they will not sway anyone one way or the other. I bet Chirac would love to have Saddam back in power. Another oil for france program might prop up that economy.

it amazes me that france was ever able to colonize anyone. if only the veitnamese had water pistols, they could have ward of those pesky french invaders.

Biz-

You are failing to realize the true reasons for French colonization. They sought out any unclaimed country that did not have soap. As they came ashore the locals would be forced to remark "Oh! How fresh smelling you are...compared to those of us who share our huts with livestock!" This allowed the French to spent generations ignoring their own personal filth.

I think you hit on something there old sarge, it seems the French (and German) economy is so bad and so crippled, that the only way they can make any money is by trading with out law nations and brutal dictators.

Well, at least they keep their promises. They say they will blow up people and they do it. Now if they would only blow up a certain cat from the family named Lynch, I would gladly donate to their cause. Me and Mr. Matt Shivers who likes to be called Goober are in agreement on this point.

IMPORTANT LFC UPDATE

The No LFC Cat Club is holding its first annual convention in Del Boca Vista Fla next week We have even managed to get Mr Patrick Buchanan to agree to address the crowd on the evils of multilateral feline blogging. Afterwards, we will adjourn to the beach and frolic in the sun. If you would like to attend, contact the Holiday In South, Del Boca Vista Fla.

The UN has also placed Palestine at the top of its list of the most bestest places to live.

Courtesy of the New York Times affiliate The Roswell Daily Record :

The Bush White House admitted through spokesperson Carl Spackler that the information President Bush received about Saddam Hussein having attempted to purchase uranium from Africa came from the Dali Lama.

'It was the Dali Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. Well the president had him over for drinks and to discuss the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Well after the drinks the Lama starts to leave. So President Bush says, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?", at which time the Dali Lama revealed what he knew", stated Spackler.

Mr. Spackler went on to state that the Dali Lama later apologized for the inaccuracy of his information and promised to make up for it by granting the president total consciousness on his death bed.

"The president now has that going for him, which is nice", stated Spackler.

"I'd like to thank the Academy, the UN, Skoda for making such good C-4. I'd like to thank Osama for his inspiration, and Saddam for the funding. Most of all, I'd like to thank the Imams and Mullahs for convincing us of the need to blow up grandmothers and school children. And of course I'd like to thank Allah and Mohammed for giving us a religion to corrupt and use to justify murder. Thank you all so much!"
--Achmed al Achmed, Islamic Jihad

Last nite I had a dream in which I was appointed by the Supreme Deity to decide what is, and is not, funny and/or valid and to communicate my decree to the huddled masses.

Therefore, I (Petronius the Arbitor) hereby suggest the following SCRAPPLE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT:

ALLOWED: quips or comments on current events or Scrapple stories, poking holes in arguments advanced by other posters, any joke at the expense of John Kerry

NOT ALLOWED: ad hominem attacks or unprovoked insults directed at other posters, posting under someone else's name, harrassing a particular poster (in other words, why not lay off LFCat).

There is plenty of material out there to make fun of - do we really need to be insulting to each other? Everyone fires off the occasional salvo (especially in self-defense), but I'm not really convinced we need to be gratutiously nasty.

(Yes, I realize I have just declared war - as Pres. Bush recently remarked, "Bring it on"...)

After reading this story, I would have to say, Bill Clinton is a VERY RESPONSIBLE person! He is the person most responsible for the 'deterioration of morality' in America during the period between 1992 and Now!

Mohamed Al Sufra: Hey dude, lay off LFCat!

>>>NOT ALLOWED: ad hominem attacks or unprovoked insults directed at other posters, posting under someone else's name, harrassing a particular poster (in other words, why not lay off LFCat).

Posted by: Petronius the Arbitor on July 8, 2003 01:37 PM

Dear Petronius, I agree with ALL of your conditions, except for, posting under someone else's name, as I love to infuriate frenchman. Thank you for your attention, in this matter. I remain,

Frenchman

Sniping at Mike G is not harassment, neofascists are fair game.

SRG: Was I reading and imagining Jimmy Carter's voice over Achmed al Achmed????????? No,No, it was Dan Ankroyd's. Sorry. Nevermind.

SRG-BTW:

Islam wasn't corrupted. It is evil by its very nature. Read the last paragraphs of Revelations 22:18.

Any teachers out there???? Can you ask your class which son Abraham was supposes to sacrifice and get back to me on that one. Thanks. Just doing some research.

Gabby,
Read the Koran. Based on the Torah with new stuff at the end. Kind of like the Bible.
Say! Maybe Christianity is inherently evil!

Never trust what one religion says about another.

Ouch....good point. (grovel,grovel,grovel....)

The vicious and intemperate comments in this thread are further examples that you are all tools of the international Zionist conspiracy which has spread its tentacles everywhere to feast on the blood of innocent Palestinian children.

I agree with all of Petronius' rules. I get very confused when some people post as others.

Petronius: LFCat's attacks are not what I would call unprovoked. That annoying kid (MattWhatEverHeCallsHimselfNow) has been stealing everyone's screen names and being a general PITA (pain in the ***.)

Frenchman, Max, Mattwhatshisface, and Comical Rummy are also fair game.

As BTS (Big Time Sublime) said, Mike G. is fair game. Do not, however, confuse him with Mike S.

Ken:

I was trying to stick up for LFCat - that was the primary reason I added "unprovoked" before attacks. De Cat has been berry, berry good to me :)

This is what prompted the Arbitor post:

"IMPORTANT LFC UPDATE

The No LFC Cat Club is holding its first annual convention in Del Boca Vista Fla next week We have even managed to get Mr Patrick Buchanan to agree to address the crowd on the evils of multilateral feline blogging."

Sincerely,

Petronius

Its not that I want to harass Mike G., I just can't help it, my mind being controlled by "Big Zion" and me being a tool of complicated conspiracies I can't perceive or understand.

Ken, Petronius...awww shucks...purrrr purrrr. Thanks for looking out for me & makin' afuss over me. Some people have this tude toward cats ya know....Some people just have a tude & no social skills....You guys like me...you really, really like me!! (:~}) Want some catnip?...may I catch you a mouse?..

As for that pest: "talk to the furry [], troublemaker". tee heee heee

srg
the bible doesn't promote killing, however the Koran thrives on it. thats why islam is evil and christianity is not. allahu akbar.

Mohammed claimed that Christ was a prophet but not divine. But Christ claimed to be divine. So Mohammed claimed that the New Testament was revised or reauthored about 300 years after Christ died, and his divinity was essentially added. In other words, Mohammed claimed that Christ didn't really claim to be divine, but Christians later made that claim for him.

Then we found the Dead Sea Scrolls and related findings. We have found original manuscripts of the Gospels dated to 70-120 A.D., which is within the time period of people who knew Christ. These manuscripts have the same language as the New Testament today. Christ was claiming his status as the Son of God in these works.

The point: if the prophet on whom you base your religion can't accurately state history, your religion is false.

Cats are cool - even if I'm allergic to them.

Aaa-aaa-aaaaaaa-CHOO

Long story short: I had friends who breed cats, including siamese. They had one injured as a kitten by momma, gave it to us. We bred twice (since we were going to breed it, I named it Moll Flanders), made a few dollars, then it had to be fixed for medical reasons. Everytime it was in heat, it urinated on something that belonged to me - batting gloves, dictaphone (that was an unpleasant surprise as I started to dictate a brief one day), briefcase. But my wife liked that mean [] cat. Then it started attacking her belly when she was pregnant, and it was gone.

Some cats are cool (like the UK Wildcats and LFC). But my general rule is don't get one unless you want your stuff to smell like urine.

Hey Gabs,

I hate to get off topic but this is one of my Pet-Peeves. It is the book of Revelation. No "s". (According to every version of the Bible I have.) Nothing personal, just want to make sure you don't sound ignorant when you are making a good point.

Other Peeves (As if you're interested):

According to our President, the word Nuke-U-lar actually exists. This is the biggest beef I can come up with against "W". Correct Pro. Nuke-Lee-Ur.

Irregardless: This is not, I repeat, not an actual word. If you are thinking of using it in conversation, substitute "regardless" because that is normally what you really mean.

Real-I-ty: Also not a word. Try "realty" instead. Pro: Real-Tee. Also see Real-Tor.

Thanks for the forum, and everyone keep posting on the stuff that Really matters instead of just your "Peeves".

Johnny

Johnny,

Have you ever been in other areas of the country (much less other countries) where the English that is spoken is slightly different, be in in accents or in pronunciation? The word dialect ring a bell at all?

Merriam-Webster (among others--check the Internet for definitions and pronunciation...it's a wonderful thing) shows 3 differing pronunciations for "nuclear", and yours is merely one of them.

On the other two words that are your pet peeves, well, live with it. The world has enough whiners as well as a whole lot bigger things to whine about.

Scott,

Yup, I checked out the site and found (If I read the symbol of "&" right.) 'n¸-klE-&r;, 'ny¸-, ˜-ky&-l&r;, that Nuke-U-Lar is also correct. But if I'm not seeing things, this is only two pronunciations. I think the comma after 'ny¸- might be a mistake.

The main reason that Nuke-U-Lar sounds stupid to me is that I learned how to pronounce words by "Sounding them out" way back in first grade. Therefore, according to my education, "Nuclear" would be pronounced as the first "Pro:" from Merriam Webster indicates.

I wholeheartedly agree that this is ,for the most part, a trivial argument, but making yourself understood in the language of our country WITHOUT sounding like you ar an uneducated bumpkin, I believe is important.

Johnny

Johnny,

By your own standard, then, we could also pronounce it "New-Clear", but that's not quite right, is it? I think the bigger part is how you are hearing it, how you've decided to hear it: you hear it as "Nuke-u-lar", but in the same pronunciation, I hear as "new-cu-lar" because of the accent.

Having worked in the nuke industry (but not since the end of 1992) in different areas of the country, there is no difference..just accents.

Another example...sort of...my ancestors immigrated from coal-mining England towards the end of the 1800's and settled in Montana. To this day, my grandfather (and it's been 3 generations before him) says pronounces "at all" as "a-tall", just like they do back in England still. The reality is they are saying the same words, we just hear them differently.

So english dudes! What does all that have to do with the Islamic JEE=hawd or jee=HAWD anyway?

Jimmy Cawter was a nuke-u-ler man, too. He was a peanut farmer--not a tuh-MAW-toh or even
a tuh-MAY-toh farmer as was rumored. How is THAT on topic? Upon learning the peanut crops were good Cawter was always quick to enthusiastically respond
with a: "JEEEEE Hawd we're making a killing this year!"

Ken,
oo ! am I "fair game" ! scary !
why is that ? you hate hearing Israeli oppression flakked ?
y'know on this thread I've read that Islam is an evil religion and that there is a world-wide Zionist conspiracy. It'd be difficult for an outsider to decide which statement is intended as ironic and which is based on hate.
Ken if you really supported Jews you'd have flacked off Biz by now - after all he reckons being anti-Jew isn't that big a deal because their arrogance ticks him off. http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001011.html
Still I guess because he hates not only Jews but Muslims and Brits and all other Europeans you let him off.
I've said before opposing Israel isn't anti-Jewish I'd be just as opposed if the Israelis were Eskimos stealing the Pal land. With some of you guys, and I don't specifically mean Ken, I wonder if under those circumstances you'd be hating the Pals and claiming anti-Eskimism ie I wonder if its just islamophobia that drives you and not defence of Israel or Jews in itself.

by the way on a related note the "some random guy on July 8, 2003 03:33 PM " comment was spot on.

lmao@rummy
i guess what it comes down to rummy, is that people in here just don't like you. lol. way to go Ken. i love seeing rummy all hot and bothered. rummy, your religion (islam) is evil pal. biz'mallah brother.
your imam,
biz

Even I think Rummy is a windbag.

LFC and his cohorts all residing in that split personality skull need to learn to get along, or at least make some of the weaker ones move out, or perhaps kill not just mearly wound.

-- Its his running shtick folks ---

He attacks himself, so don't be overly bothered by it.

Me personally I hold religious compunctions against impersonating an idiot... err stealing the name of someone else for a post. It's bad for the digestion.

So I am a scrapple thought criminal
Please dont notify my probation officer or the parole board.

biz,
actually I'm not a Muslim just less of a hate-filled individual than you.
But then I'm long past expecting you to get anything right.
Come on you hate Muslims, Jews, Europeans, Brits, admit it you even hate yourself don't you

Zeus,
I am claiming to be divine.

Does that make it true?

The Jews didn't agree either. Does that make their religion false?

And despite your assertation, the Koran doesn't thrive on killing any more than the Bible does.

I also have trouble with calling the Gospels "history."

Doesnt the old testament warrant death for eating shell fish and participating in sodomy?

Ever notice that with the liberals, anything that you believe or do that they don't agree with is labeled as being motivated by "hate"?

I'll state this way: it's not Islam intrinsically that I hate, it is groups that claim to be Islamic that deal only with violence and terror. Regardless of their beliefs, we have an obligation, not motivated by hate, to be rid of them.

hey OS, just trying to fit in !
I've been accused many times of "hate" on these boards by you guys, hating Jews, hating Bush.
not that it bother me too much, particularly the 2nd bit !
so is it just Islamic terrorists you hate ?
Begin and Shamir are fine I suppose ?

Comical Rummy:
If it is Menachem Begin you refer to, he's been dead for 10 years. Even if he was alive, he did more for Mideast peace than, oh, say Bill Clinton. Remember, signing of peace treaty with Egypt in 1979?

If it is Yitzhak Shamir you refer to in the 2nd, he didn't do much as prime minister, if I recall.

So I'd have to say those were two fairly poor examples...and no, no hate there.

What of our brothers over in Ireland?
Good ole presbyterians like Ian Paisley and their annual""Kick the Pope"" parades thru Catholic neighborhoods,under the watchful eye of our allies in England.
Could you see the KKK marching thru Watts while the LAPD hoses down,beats then uses plastic bullets to""calm"" the crowds?

OS,
Begin has been dead for nearly 20 years.
Both Begin and Shamir were notorious terrorists and they are both still relevant as Israel had them as PM only 20 and less than 10 years ago.
Begin was a notorious bus bomber.
"he did more for Mideast peace than,"
hmmm .. so maybe you'll be saying that about the Hamas leaders in a few years time". Unless you just hate them because they're Muslim of course.
Shamir murdered the UN peace negotiator Bernadotte, a war hero who saved the lives of many Jews (while Shamir was fighting the Brits in Palestine). I think he's worth hating for that alone.

http://www.cdiss.org/terror_1940s.htm
"December 12
Twenty Arabs, five Jews and two British soldiers killed and thirty wounded in Jewish terrorist bomb attacks on buses in Haifa and Ramleh, Palestine. British mandate to rule Palestine ends on 15 May 1948; state of Israel established.

December 29
Jewish Irgun terrorists throw grenades from passing taxi into cafÈ near the Damascus gate, Jerusalem, Palestine, killing eleven Arabs and two British policemen. "

Shamir murdered the UN peace negotiator
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/folke.html
"The terrorists, wearing khaki shorts and peaked caps, left their jeep, found Bernadotte in the second car of the convoy and one man, later discovered to be Yehoshua Cohen, fired a Schmeisser automatic pistol into the car, spraying the interior with bullets and killing Seraut and then Bernadotte. The other LEHI members shot the tires of the rest of the convoy and all the terrorists escaped to the religious community of Sha’arei Pina where they hid with haredi (ultra-religious) LEHI sympathizers for a few days ...
Yitzhak Shamir reputedly played a role in planning the assassination; however, he was never tried and went on to become Prime Minister of Israel. "

i love you rummy!!!!!!!!!!
even though you continue to lie ot yourself. me, i'm honest. i hate islam, hate isreal and its arrogant settlers, hate france, hate germany, hate any arrogant european country that has the nerve to say the u.s. is arrogant and then call us for support. but you, rummy, i love. you are more fun than a queer with a bag of weenies. what would i do if i couldn't play with you all day.

your imam,
biz

*israel

1 mans terrorist is another mans freedon fighter.
from nelson mandela to martin mcguiness to sam adams to sal allende to menachem begin to yassir arafat to ghandi
all have legitimate agendas,they just used different methods of achieving their goals.

I never said anything about the Koran and killing. Someone else did.

The Old and New Testament are filled with history and statements about history. Some used to argue that King David was religious myth like King Arthur. But there have now been discovery of non-biblical sources referring the great kingdom of David. Solomon and his Jewish kingdom has been discovered in non-biblical sources. Even cities were claimed to be myth by some. References to the real cities of Sodom, and (this is one of the hardest stories for me to believe if one wishes to take a fairly literal view of the Bible) even Babal have been discovered.

Jewish priests are supposedly all decended from Aaron, brother of Moses. This was believed to be a myth by sceptics. DNA has since shown that all such priests have a common ancestor, even black Jewish priests claiming their tribe was Jewish (a migration that had not been documented). More could be discussed, and the prophecies of the Old and New that should have happened by now have proven true (and many are easily understood -- eg, this specific town will be destroyed by this group in about 1400 years, and fishing nets will be cast on the rock where the town used to sit -- it happened, and the fishing nets dry on that rock this very day), but that is another chapter. The history of the Old and New has, when proven either way, been proven true.

Is the Jews religion fasle? No. Christianity could not be right unless the Old Testament is right. But Christians must believe they are incorrect when they say Christ was not the messiah proclaimed by Isaiah. A simple reason is, if Christ was not the messiah, then how can the yet to come messiah walk into the temple, which Christ did as prophecied, but has since been destroyed?

Religion can be faith in spite of fact. But if you are Christian, it is nice that it doesn't have to be. No other faith can withstand the same scrutiny.

BTW, we can all go to the original Jewish law and find things we consider absurd today. Christ relieved us from the law with grace.

Just because you believe in the Christian faith, it does give you the right to demean others. It is OK to believe that you are right, and the Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, Frenchman, Commical Rummy, and others are not. You can witness your faith and be gracious to everyone -- you aren't better than anyone b/c you are saved. Well, maybe not Frenchman and Commical Rummy.

If this statement were about a conservative political philosophy, and not a religious one, few of the regulars here would be upset at all.

Zeus, once great king of the Greek gods, has been converted.

Did I mention that the Greek gods never invested in a spell checker?

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Rummy (who is very comical):
Menachem Begin
In office 1977-82
Born Brest-Litovsk, Russia, 1913; Died 1993

My math would make that 10 years.

Your other stuff, no facts, just suppositions. As such, there really can be no debate.

However, we have an abundance of facts that show certain Islamic factions are absolutely involved in terrorism not for any true political purpose, but because of their hatred of us or what we stand for.

But, if you and Mike G. really do believe they are a peaceful bunch, I wholeheartedly suggest that go to the Middle East for a while to visit. Try Syria, maybe even Yemen to see how loving they are.

The Bible in the Old Testament (Leviticus particularly) prescribes death as judgement under law (civil penalty) for the following (not all-inclusive list, its been a while since I memorized them all):
Profaning God's name, Violation of the Sabbath, Homosexual Sex, Beastiality, Kidnapping, Rape, Murder. Eating shellfish was proscribed under ritual cleaness and required ritual purification.
When the New Testament says "there is none righteous, no not one" and "the wages of sin are death" I doubt there is anyone who has not profaned God's name or violated the sabbath (bought or sold or labored on the sabbath day).

So when judged under the Law, we would all be worthy of death. Christ indeed claimed Deity, and died for the purpose that we might be adopted sons of God, and our death legally covered in Christ.

In a Christian's forgiveness by God of an unpayable debt we owe forgiveness to all offenders of ourselves.

Good thing that old book of rules was just hobbled together out of the musings of ignorant sheperds. Is that not the claim of the agnostic or atheist?

I realize that the conduct of Christians is usually the largest disincentive to belief. The second is probably the texts of scripture that appear irrelevant or harsh.

I base my belief on the self-reports of the radical changes of the persons who knew Jesus. The half-brother of Jesus, James for example.

What would it take for you to get down on your face and worship as God, one of your siblings? Would you choose death as the alternative to denial of your sibling's deity? From a psychological perspective, people don't adopt their siblings as God, themselves maybe, or strangers, their siblings they just know their conduct too well and are certainly willing to judge them.

Rules of Engagement

I will agree to the rules of engagement if and only if LFC and some other posters will avoid the sappy huggy postings. This is a satirical web site not OPRAH. Say something funny or at least try to.

OS,
stand corrected on Begin.
enjoyed your claim that Israeli terrorists bombing buses full of civilians is supposition. you'll be telling me next that 911 was just supposition.
even most pro-Israelis admit Begin and Shamir were terrorists - one of the links gave was to the very pro-Israel us-israel site.
its all established facts so there's no use in your covering your ears and pretending you didn't realise Israel elects terrorists as their leaders.

Sorry, but I see all religions as a bunch of hooey. And while much good is done in the name of religion, a equal amount of evil is done in the name of the same faith.

Other Scott
Whats the body count in the latest pogram against palestinians?
At least 2-1 in favor of the ""men of peace"" like Ariel Sharon,who supervised the murder of over 1000 refugees in Beirut.
people who were killed with axes,machetes and swords.
Men woman and children,unarmed,murdered under the supervision of this pig.
Even his own government held him ""indirectly"" responsible for this slaughter.
If you do the math other scott,how many bus loads of people do you need to blow up to tie the score...
When these apache helicopters who ravage palestinian homes land,palestinian people see MADE IN THE USA,when Caterpillar 960GS are demolishing a mosque or a neighborhood the palestinians see MADE IN THE USA on the bulldozer.

Let me ask you other scott.
If you were raising your family in the west bank would you embrace American policy if you were an Arab?

rummy
i'm so glad we worked out our problems.
we can be like carville and matlin. but you have to stop with the lies. i don't spew hate. i just admit its presence. you on the other hand just sound so miserable (even when your trying to be cute)....... much like carville.... and i envision you ugly, bald, and screaming to be heard just like him. well, anyway, i'll talk to ya later buddy.

bizmatic

And the Pals also see "Made in the USA" on the M-16s that many of them carry.

Some Random Guy: exactly. But I do not think you are allowed to point things out like that, since it really hurts their arguments. But, again, facts tend to do that.

rand and OS,
"And the Pals also see "Made in the USA" on the M-16s that many of them carry."
hmm now if the Pals had F16 jets and Apache helicopters that they could use to bombard Israeli civilians in the same way the Israelis bombard Pal civilians THEN our arguments would be really damaged.
The Pals are only about $2 bill behind the Israelis in terms of US military aid !
imagine billions of military aid to a regime that elects terrorists as PM - so much for a war on terror !

The theological discussion is great. Funny how it seems more logical than CR.

Where do these m-16s come from?
How about the black market courtesy of th IDF.
Although some weapons are smuggled in via Egypt,Jordan and other mid-east ares,the majority of the palestinian weapons are bought from Israel.
ak-47s were the choice back when Russia was a major player in the arms game.
They no longer are a player to that extent.

kj
because it is more relevant than cr. he is sooooooooo angry all the time. he would make a perfect suicide bomber what with the anger and being as easily brainwashed as he is. inshaa'allah!

CR, MG,

What is point u r trying to make?

And, CR, know how many billion # mr. A. has tucked away in Swiss and other bank accounts (u no which mr.A. I mean)? And what he spends it on? Go read first and study more history and reflect, b4 typing "ins blaue hinein".
And just in case u set us up and try to be comic, this is wrong site for yr type of comic views.
Puh.

Dear Petronius Arbitor,

Talking about High Culture, Titus Petronius was ArbitEr (Elegantiae) and not ArbitOr...

Please believe that any highly educated person would have noted this and conclude yourself about the level of education in the USA.

Cordialement,

LN
what did you say in english??
arafat has billions in swiss banks and he spends it on what??
please inform this panel,in english,with some clarity,as to what the christ youre talking about.

sincerly
Mike Giordano

regarding frenchmans last post:
the french call us arrogant? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ugh

Man, this Middle East stuff is depressing.

Anyone heard any good Rachel Corrie jokes lately?

mike g
i think he is saying that arafat is a fraudulent leader, with lots of money tucked away but not investing it in his people..... much like our "black community" leaders such as sharpton and jackson.

Religion is so important, because without it no one could justify murder, and this place would get way too crowded.

biz,

Thanks for clarifying my point (was out to get a bite for dinner). No need to add more. Or, on 2nd thought: CR, ever added up the moneys UNHRWA spent on the Pal's and how UNsuccesfull they have been at that in the past 55 years? Could be that went via via to A's pockets and still sits there.

LN

Frenchman:

re:Talking about High Culture, Titus Petronius was ArbitEr (Elegantiae) and not ArbitOr....

Please believe that any highly educated person would have noted this and conclude yourself about the level of education in the USA.

Why do you insist on being so condescending and insulting? Do you enjoy it? It is unfortunate, since it reinforces a common negative stereotypical image of the French which (I hope) does not apply to the majority of your countrymen/women.

I know how to spell arbiter - the variant spelling was intentional and was used to invoke the image of a space alien because that seemed funnier. In fact, the tone of the post was supposed to be humorous, even though I was serious about wishing people would concentrate more on the arguments and less on being insulting. Sadly, this message seems to be lost on you.

I make no claim to be highly educated, but I can spell and I also know how to be civil, even to those I disagree with.

Cordialement,

Petronius Maximus

Dearest Zeus;

I believe in you. I have been sacrifising oxen to you on feast days. If you are for real, show me a miracle. Please send me lots of drachma so I can buy more oxen. Please note, the BBQ sauce is strictly to fool the neighbors as they are followers of that false god Odin. We also are forced to eat the evidence.

Danjo
Burning large and small mammals in your general direction, but NO cats!

CR, MG,

You two crazy kids are blaming others of being motivated by hate while being anti-Semitic. Now that's humor!! Iím suspicious of anyone who canít at least see the other sideís argument. You two keep bringing up the atrocities committed by Israel, but I havenít heard one word castigating the Palestinian terrorists. Not one word about how the Palestinians are right next to Israel because they got kicked out of Jordan (because of a failed coup attempt), not because they have some ancient claim to the land. You two are perfect liberals; you see only the left side. You canít see the other side at all; logic and learning are lost on you.

I on the other hand am more balanced. I see both sides, I listen to the arguments on both sides and then make my judgment. I realize that Israel has done wrong in the past (what country hasnít) and it is not a perfect country. But what I see today is Palestinians targeting & murdering innocent Jewish women and children. Today I see Islamic extremists wanting to kill all Americans and all Jews. To that I say we have the right & duty to defend ourselves.

SRG ñ LOVED your 7-8-03 1:31PM post.

Mmmmm...oxen.

Dibs on any and all vestal virgins!

Thank you ln and Biz for the clarity.
Oh how true what you say is but I wouldnt put all the burden on Arafat.
He has been the head of the plo since I believe 1965 and p.a. corruption was one of the reasons for the popularity of Hamas.
Arafat and his people never really delivered what they had promised as far as land,jobs,health care etc..
Hamas on the other hand,is a much more ""hands on"" type of organization that resembles the salvation army when it isnt screaming ""death to the jews"" and "'allah akbar""..
Like a bookmaker once told me
""everything will eventually come back to the middle""
in the mideast that means that the likud party in Israel will form a coalition with labor and Arafat and the new guy will team up,suppress Hamas and the radical members of Fatah and eventually meet at camp david sometime between now and GWB'S 2nd term.
I for one think it can be done.
All it will take is a barrel full of money and enough bloodshed to make people smarten up.

2 men in sanfrancisco were watching a dog lick his scrotum.
the fellow on the left says""i wish i could do that""
the fellow on the right says""pat him 1st to make sure he's friendly""

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Frenchman quotes the NY Times and Comical Funny pretends not to be a muslim. Maybe both are just two personalities bound in the same oriental body. Frenchman surrenders with his every quote and Comical Funny fares in simplistic anti-judaism. To me they sound like an arab frenchie, defined by utter hypocricy, lack of morals, anti-semitism and hate for western cultures. Frenchman..."western cultures"...hardly defines France being part of it. ;-) France path of success leads to handing out passports to Saddam's cronies, arresting Iran's opposition, surrendering to its own muslim minority, Chirac kissing Mugabe's cheeks tenderly and being beaten on every battlefield pretty badly. Merging with the arab world might be a pretty clever idea to you, but...praising Jerry Lewis as genius is as well, so who really cares for french opinions? ;-)

Reminds me of a joke about the Georgia bulldog. It's better if you imagine the conversation in a Southern drawl.

Back in the day, U of Georgia had made the playoffs and the game was going to be televised. This was still relatively new, so everyone was really excited about being on TV.

During halftime, the band was playing, the cheerleaders were bouncing, and the GA bulldog was lead solemnly out into the middle of the football field. The camera panned in for a closeup of the famous mascot. Everything was looking great until the bulldog suddenly sat down and starting licking his private parts -- right there on national TV.

Two of the Georgia coaches were standing on the sidelines. One, watching the bulldog, said, "Man, don't you wish you could do that?"

The other coach, looking puzzled and scratching his head, replied...

"That dog would biiiiite you!"

Hey Scott (Ott), how about a new thread. This one has been invaded with the dreaded "Libs are Here" disease. You know, all rant and no humor. Thanks

Cassandra, as a graduate of The Georgia Institute of Technology, I really appreciate that one. It is about the mentality that one finds at the University of Georgia. LOL :>}

Who is Jerry Lewis?

Athens Ga on an autumn saturday afternoon....
calgon take me away..
UGA is the dogs name and coincidence would have it that I,yes me,the jew hating,neo nazi,commie,pinko,[]..owns a bulldog...
Old Sailor
did you really go to school in Athens?

Max:

Trust me, you don't want to find out.

Matt Goober Shrivers:

Kumbaya my Lord...Kumbaya....feel the love.

Seriously, deal! I'd shake hands with you and LFCat, but I'm allergic.

I can't believe you're dissing Oprah - if I watched her show I'd be whacked off, but since I dislike her intensely, go for it.

MikeG:

UGA is in Athens (Georgia, not Greece). Ga. Tech. is in Atlanta. Old Sailor, being a Tech. grad, went to school in Atlanta. If he went to Athens, it was probably to stir up trouble or find a good looking co-ed.

It is a safe bet that Tech fans don't want to lick the private parts of their mascot, the Yellow Jacket.

Own a bulldog, huh? Compensating?

Compensating for what son?
I believe gtech also went by the rambling wreck too.
Obviously I didnt read old sailors post very well correct me if i am wrong but didnt they stop playing each other in football just recently?
kj
russian bred english bulldogs are extremely rare.
all the puppies are born c-section because of their enormous heads and are identified by a small tatoo on the inside of their thigh.
no more than 2-3 puppies a litter and they retail,if authentic,for over $3000.00

FWIW: no bulldogs were harmed in the making of my last post.

FINE -- my second-to-last post.

(July 9, 2003 01:56 PM)

"...but didnt they stop playing each other in football just recently?"

I don't think so. The game is usually nationally televised as an ESPN night game. Too much money, and too legit of a college rivalry, to just dump. I'll ask a fan of one of the schools to be sure and report if I am wrong.

Since I live in Atl, I am surrounded by these fans. I have heard UGa fans complaining about the new football schedules though. UK/UGA games used to be in October. When the game was in Lexington, UGa fans liked to travel to the game b/c it was during Keeneland racing season. The games have been moved to a different part of the season, outside of racing season.

First!

*****

I won't be around for a few days and I'll probably miss the next post. Could the person in position to enter the first comment on the next thread please cut and paste this in there on my behalf?

Thanks in advance.

I have a feeling that since the inception of the sec championship game that the series was discontinued but again I cant confirm this without the schedules in front of me.
Hershel Walker was the single greatest running back in college history.
Who can forget Buck Belue hitting Lindsay Scott for the game winning td against ufla in the 1980 season for a 10-7 victory.
Terry Hoague may have been the hardest hitting safety in sec history,that my friends,was one great football team

Mike G.,

Regarding your post, "..the jew hating, neo nazi, commie, pinko, fag". You cannot claim any special status or treatment for being a "fag" as it has been established in a previous discussion that everyone is gay. Happy Pride Day!

Petronius the Arbitor,

While I appreciate your heart felt gesture of brotherly fellowship and admit that you being a personal choice of the Supreme Deity,may have some very high placed connections to our detriment.
It is sometimes necessary for "Conservatives" to obscure the malodorous comments of some of the liberal posters here, by choosing to ersatz ourselves to a level that may seem intolerable to some.
I assure you this in no way reflects any form of directed cruelty, or anything other than to let the liberals, feel like they have a equal chance to speak out on issues they hold dear.

We are simply trying to create an atmosphere of humility and generosity that places them on a level and equal footing.

Consider the FrenchÖ.
The French are the most obnoxious people in the world.
That has nothing to do with the topic of my conversation.
I just like saying it because they really are.

Anyway....,

Now - that I have shocked you back in to the harsh realities of liberalism,
I would point out that an undocumented, well known study in the halls of Medical Academia, points out that, liberals usually donít understand phrases like,
ìCould you please give me some concrete examples that would encompass the direction this debate is heading towards.î
It is quite often more propitious to use terms like
ìPull your liberal head out of your moronic *$%^@# and make your point - Dufus!î
This form of elocution, quite often produces exemplary results by speeding up their conversation lag time, producing a feeling of accomplishment on their part.

I could go on for hours with various summations and examples but I simply wonít ñ that would make me a waster of your and my time and I wouldn't dare to be that liberal.

I myself and many other Scrapplers are here to build the liberal self esteem up to a point, where it can cure itself. We donít want them to become less equipped to deal with reality than they already are. The work of a true conservative is never done, yet in the end, these medical breakthroughs and spontaneous, political put downs, will be a welcome catharsis for all members of the liberal situation.

Respectfully,

Dr. Harden Stuhl

M.D,B.A,PHD, (Mostly BS),
Microsoft Certified,
Scrappleface Medical Editor,
Times Man of the Year (Scranton Times)

Rules of Engagement

>>>I will agree to the rules of engagement if and only if LFC and some other posters will avoid the sappy huggy postings. This is a satirical web site not OPRAH. Say something funny or at least try to.

Posted by: Matt Goober Shivers (Wearing PAnts by court order) and offering a Truce because I have a life on July 9, 2003 10:30 AM

How odd that you did not mention, Com Rummy, Frenchman, Chucky, Max, etc. I fail to see the humor in their posts.

Maybe it's that you are a sick, lib, anti-Christian, weirdo, that, (as has been pointed out before), only wants to see what he/she/IT, agrees with, and wants to stiffle others thoughts that disagree with, he/she/IT!

If this is the case then, SHUT UP, WE are NOT amused by you, you LIB biased Dim weirdo. Go kiss piglosi, oor hillary's []!

What do you call a man with no arms or legs, laying on your porch?

MATT!

Quote:Doesnt the old testament warrant death for eating shell fish and participating in sodomy?

Please feel free tp experiment.

http://www.fresh-fish-online.com/shellfish.htm

http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/iowa/documents/record?record=275 [State by State Sodomy Update]

Georgia Tech and Georgia still will play Thanksgiving. I could go into the grear teams that Ga. Tech has had compared to the one great team Georgia had several decades ago. BUT; this is Scrappleface where satire reigns supreme and it would not be apropo, huh, Georgia and football is satire!! Oh well. Back to the lib baiting.

Ouch! Glad I'm not a Georgia alum...

100 and 18th.
Cool
The End

Angel,

Do you have to eat shellfish while engaging in sodomy or just do both with some time period (5 hours or 3 days or something?) or can you be killed for just doing one of them? What about sodomy with a shellfish, thats what responsible groups like Islamic Jihad would do, don't you think? And eating raw oysters is kind of like...

Let's stick a fork in this one (no, not the shellfish, or the sodomizer, for that matter)...it's DONE!

LN,

this Arafat is a billionaire spoof was recently proposed by some Israeli general - well he would say that wouldn't he ? Its often claimed that Brit intel made the claim 10 years ago, in fact I chased down the magazine article the claim was made in and it offered no evidence at all for this - just some pro-Israel shooting off. I'm afraid its just a ludicrous pro-Israel slur you've fallen for - like the arafat is gay claim made by Pacepa.

ynot,
in fact it was you lot who constantly accuse me and Mike G of "hate" despite complete lack of evidence.
Yet when I point out that its the anti-Pal lot who display most hate with remarks like "Pals are animals" you don't like it. Maybe you don't like facts ! I guess thats why you want to deflect from discussing Israels bloody record, I guess you don't notice the 1000s of Pals that Israelis kill with their indiscriminate bombardment of civlians aka terrorism. what do you expect from a regime which elects terrorists ! True the Pals record "isn't perfect" to use your phrase but they are fighting a war of survival against ethnic cleansers.

Ethnic Cleansing?

Muaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

What do the Israelis know about executing Ethnic Cleansing?

We would have been done with the Palestinians back in 1949.

Does Hamas pay you enough for your foolish postings?

rummy,
as usual i love the post. israel could really do some ethnic cleansing if they chose. they just choose to bulldoze neighborhoods and build their homes in somebody elses backyard. like i said before "arrogant jews". but it is doubtful that even if israel stopped its "terrorism" groups like hamas and jihad would stop theirs. i'll just kick back and watch these fools in the middle east spread their disease. if you wanna believe that the Pals will ever become a self sustaining, productive society, then you are even dumber than your posts led me to believe.

Dark,
in 1947-8 100,000 of Pals were driven from their homes in a string of atrocities at Deir yassin and tantura, absolute fact !
And you know the people who deny that the Israelis carried out this ethnic cleansing, in fact HAD to carry out this ethnic cleansing in order to create a Jewish demographic majority (in a land which was 2/3 Pal in 1947) are the same people who say there must be no right of return for Pals because THAT would remove the Jewish majority in Israel. They really can't argue it both ways.

Glad you liked the post, Biz, I was worried when you said the other day I sickened you - I'm obviously very concerned for your health.
"it is doubtful that even if israel stopped its "terrorism" groups like hamas and jihad would stop theirs."
welll bear in mind that Arabs and Jews got on *relatively* well before the Zionist era. And bear in mind also, as I was discussing with Ken Stein, that Israel have made it very clear that even if the suicide bombings stop the Israeli illegal occupation of Pal land will continue. In fact the Israelis are even continuing their land grab apace in defiance of the road map.

In the name of Mooka (see post waaaaay above) I post here ....LAST (so far today). I undertake to post first in the name of Mooka if I get lucky enough to post first on the next blog, during my randomly timed reviews of this site during the day. So as the Great George Secundus said recently, "Bring 'em on!" by the way, who the heck is this Mooka?

rummy
thanks for the concern. i was under the impression that israel was ordering some settlers to leave their settlements, which the settlers defied. i mean, cmon, they are the chosen people (wink). i wouldn't be shocked to see them bulldoze a pal cemetery and build a tennis club on top. at this point though, i doubt there is anything that can save this abusive relationship. i'm really on a anti-israel kick right now, but i still believe the Pals are a worthless bunch. how civilized do you expect they would act if they started to run the show? what do you expect from the bunch? no arab state has shown me any qualities i would like in a neighbor. and throw in a religion that has been hijacked to stagnate and brainwash its people. ugh. would you really like another islamic state in this world?

I dunno Biz
It seems that the palestinians thrive in this country and in britain but they truly are the red headed step children of the arab world.
Someone mentioned Jordan yesterday.
Israel has a long way to go to reach the carnage ole King Hussein laid on the pals back in 1970.
Rummy may know this one.
Didnt pal militants kill Husseins father in the 50s?

Perhaps we are not communicating with each other.

We meant Ethinic Cleansing as in KILLING.

Not merely letting their Arab Neighbors frighten them into fleeing to safety after the Israelis captured a few hilltop villages.

With teachers like the SS the Israelis could have killed HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of Arabs and "Palestinians" before 1949 and left very few SURVIVORS to claim any right of return.

Biz,
yeah the Israelis are claiming they are removing a few caravans and claiming these are settlements.
but regarding the real settlements the Israelis are refusing to even DISCUSS ending the settlements. Its one of their 14 reservations to the road map where apparently "the United States committed to fully and seriously address Israel's comments to the road map" .
Here on this proIsraeli site it says clearly *not* to be discussed. also the illegal settlements referred to are only those illegal in Israeli law, whereas ALL settlements are illegal in international law. so the Israelis in removing some settlements are merely upholding their own law (and barely doing that as both settlers and Israel are continuing to build and expand settlements) and are claiming it as a major and painful concession !
"Among issues not to be discussed: settlement in Judea, Samaria and Gaza (excluding a settlement freeze and illegal outposts"
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Peace/road1.html

Dark,
ethnic cleansing means what it means
ethnic cleansing
n.
The systematic elimination of an ethnic group or groups from a region or society, as by deportation, forced emigration, or genocide.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ethnic%20cleansing

but yes their were plenty of massacres in fact I named 2 notorious ones.
and no the Arabs did not ask the Pals to leave : that Zionist myth was debuked years ago eg by Erskins Childers.
and yes its still a massacre even if even more Pals could have been murdered, I gues Slobo could have killed more Kosovars if he'd tried harder too.

mikeg
i agree they have thrived here and in britain, but we are hardly in the middle east. the main difference between us and the mid east is............islam! it doesn't allow "thriving". it's no coincidence that nothing has really changed in the arab world for hundred of years.

USA and Israel have something in common :

They are both populated by colons who stole a Land and who now pretend that God gave it to them.

Frenchman why do you pollute the earth with your bull?
French Americans arent told they are french untill they reach 18.
Their mamas dont want them to know that they are lower than rats []es till they become adults.
How are the congolese enjoying your crepes?
Quite a mess y'all left in Algeria eh,mon cher?
Chiraq is now cutting senior pensions,American trade with Paris is down 20% since your bold move of extreme cowardice,your trade unions are about to shut down your country and once,JUST ONCE
we as americans would like you,as a nation,to take the moral high ground instead of cowaring like the poodles your parents made you to be.

God almighty if there is one tribe of people that really need a good talking to or as grady said in the shining""perhaps more than a talking to mr torrance"" its the french.

france will fall. and it will be a joy to watch. see if the USA will save ya.

MG, CR,

Let's close this name calling down, sober up and do some history research before we "are not communicating" (q. Dark) again.

some hints for further study (in sources pro and con!):

CR at July 10, 2003 05:33 AM
"True the Pals record "isn't perfect" to use your phrase but they are fighting a war of survival against ethnic cleansers."

You - you've got so many twists in your thinking, I almost give up posting:
you say Israel was and is out to ethnical cleansing (and I disagree), but you never speak about the Pal.'s motives: have you ever read the PLO Manifest, which still is a PA official document (the changes to it "under the eyes" of Clinton as we required at "Oslo accords" were never finalised)? Want me to cite it here?

CR at July 10, 2003 07:56 AM,
"And you know the people who deny that the Israelis carried out this ethnic cleansing, in fact HAD to carry out this ethnic cleansing in order to create a Jewish demographic majority (in a land which was 2/3 Pal in 1947) .."

- find the record you cite for this 2/3 Pal majority.
- yes, many Jews living there in 1947 were orig. from Europe (though you can only agree with me their ancestors originated from Israel), but tell me, where did the Arabs in British Mandatory Territory come from? or in other words:
- find the definition the UN used in 1948 to determine which Arabs living in the British Mandate Territory counted as "Palestinian refugee" (and hence would receive aid thru the UNHRWA)? Google it.
- why exactly didn't the Arab states accept the UN Partition Plan?
- find the source that states 100.000 people were killed in DY/Tantura;
- why did Egypt omit Gaza from territory they wanted back at Camp David? Naughty game there since mr. A. is an Egyptian by birth.

Last but not least:
Have you ever personally listened to an Israeli Arab (Arab citizen of Israel withing the Green Line)? Have you ever listened to a Jew who lives/lived in any of the Arab countries? Ethnic cleansing? Excuse me, but the bias is dripping from your posts.

Thanks for the break already,
LN

LN,

you accuse me of twists in thinking when I quote your phrase ? funny you think that Israel electing terrorists and Israeli ethnic cleansing of the Pals indicated its not " perfect country" but you balk when I apply that phrase to Pal terrorism !

what did you want to discuss on the PLO manifesto ?

"- find the record you cite for this 2/3 Pal majority."
among others:
http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/04.Dec.1997/Features/Article-2.html "The undisputed statistics were these: the country contained 1.2 million Arabs and half as many Jews; Arabs owned 94 percent of the land and Jews only 6 percent"

the Pals in Palestine were mainly indigenous or for the main part had lived there for centuries and your point that the Israelis had ancestors their 2000+ years ago is ludicrous: where else has a land claim been based on that ?

the Pals rejected the partition plan because they realised the Israelis wanted ALL of Palestine: Ben Gurion always said he intended to use the Israeli state as a bridgehead to get it all. I gues the Pals learned from the Cherokee Indians who in the 1820's agreed to partition with Pres Andrew Jackson where they got the west of the Mississippi theirs " while grass grew and water ran": where is their state now ?

I said 100,000s were ethnically cleansed and tell me how do you think 1200,000 native Pals suddenly disappeared. maybe only 1000s were killed in the various massacres and even Martin Gilbert accepts these occured: check him on Deir Yassin for instance.
Why would egypt want Gaza ? its not part of Egypt, its part of Palestine.
SO what that Arafat was born in Egypt: come to think of it Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir were bloodthirsty Polish terrorists, didn't stop them becoming Israeli PM.

go on, tell me about the Jews in Arab countries ! and how this justifies Israel's record

Frenchman,
I believe the word you wanted was Colonists, not colons.
A colon is part of the digestive tract. Absent damage and removal from accident of disease, everyone has one.

Yes, it is our country. Our ancestors came here from other lands, killed, drove off, or conquered the natives and settled down. Jusr like the Gauls did to the Celts, and the Romans did to the Gauls, not to mention the Goths, Visigoths, and Normans.

Comments?

Dear Mike G,

Is Stanley Kubrick your only possible cultural reference ?

Cordialement,

the gauls were celts, rand

Na mon amie
How about George S Patton and Audie Murphy.
How many Jews did your family turn over to the Gestapo mr frenchman?
How many of your sisters did your dad pimp out to the ss officers who lived in your city?

Dear Some Random Guy,

I say that Indians were ethnically cleansed and that it is the main difference with Celts, Romans, Goths and many others who fought and later mixed together.

And I hate your Western movies in wich Indians are bad and CowBoys are good ;-)

Cordialement,

by the way, LN, before I go you accuse me of "bias" are you claiming you're not biased in favour of Israel then ?
Maybe you just hate hearing the other side of the coin ! 90% of posters here are pro-Israel yet I don't hear you accuse them of "bias".
by the way where were the sources "pro and con" you promised in your post ? I saw no mention of anything unfavourable to Israel such as its continued illegal settlement building in defiance fo the road map, its defiance of UN resolutions, its persistent condemnation by human rights groups for indiscriminate bmbardment of civilians.
funny that !

french
those moveies are 50 years old. while were living in the past, you're welcome that you aren't speaking german. you dolt.

rummy
you know he's not pro israel.......he is simply anti-islam. or he could be like me, anti-both-of-em, if he can be honest with himself.

You guys are sucking the fun right out of satire. Why don't you take your self righteous attitudes and your brilliant ideas over to the Middle East and solve some of the problems. Those that can - do - those that can't -incessantly blog. Obviously no one is learning from your vast repertoire of useless brain drizzle .History repeats itself and so do you. Frankly the 6,302,309,691 of us sharing space in the world with you are getting sick of it. Your ideas are stale. There is nothing worse than an armchair blogger who sits in a cubicle and thinks he can solve the worldís problems. The world doesn't revolve around your great wisdom and knowledge. If your ideas were so relevant then you would be in a position of power and able to turn the cogs of injustice. You arenít! The reason why you canít is that you are just blue collar, and white collar average smoes, living in a world that would discard you in a second, if someone didnít need you to pick up their laundry. Get use to hearing this ìLight starch in the collar pleaseî. These are the words of destiny. This is the path you have been given.

PS. Now if you will excuse me I have to go and put more soap in machine number 3.

Thank you for enlightening us laundry guy,you speak err write excellant english for a chinaman

Abominable Dummy,

EVIDENCE - Check your first post Dummy, you accuse others of ìhateî three times. Oops, your lies are catching up to you! So you shed a tear when people call the Pals ìanimalsî, thatís so touching. Maybe you need a trip to Oprah for a quick cathartic awakening.

Here we go again Dummy, you have nothing but bad things to say about Israel, and you spend your time defending the Pals ñ ìthey are fighting a war of survival against ethnic cleansers.î You need to realize that some of the Pals are terrorists, until you post something that shows you understand that there are deficits on both sides, I will assume (as wiser scrapplers have already ascertained) that you are an Arab, a Muslim, a Pal, or at least an anti-Semite.

One more thing Dummy, you were so quick to point out name calling "Pals are animals" and that that saddens you. If your brave enough, answer this question ñ What do you think of the entire middle east population being taught throughout their lives that Jews are ìDevilsî and ìPigsî and ìTreacherousî and that Jews use Palestinian childrenís blood for pastries? Does that bother you at all? Or is that just a good heads-up to inform the innocent Arabís about the pure-evil of Israel?

I do hesitate to label someone ñ but youíre very slanted against Israel. It makes it hard to glean any decent information from you because you are the extreme. Biz doesnít take the abuse you do for exactly that reason, he admits that he is currently pretty anti-Israel but that he thinks very lowly of the Pals too. This is more even-handed. You on the other hand are the biggest Pal-cheerleader Iíve ever experienced.

AH-HAH!!

ATTENTION SCRAPPLERS: Comical Rummy is actually Yaser Arafatís information minister.

I'm not Chinese - I am from Taiwan. You really have to address your issues MikeG. Not all laundry owners are oriental. The "No tickee - no laundry" satire may be funny in a Mel Brooks movie but we know it for what it is - he is making fun of racists. You on the other hand selectively pick out culture after culture and single out their sterotypes. The only good that can come out of that is, they might be doing it to you. No Soup for you!

Laundry,
Please be careful of the pleats on my kilt.

May I have some soup?

Favorite Mel Brooks film: History of the World, Part 1.
Second favorite: all the others except for Robin Hood: Men in Tights. It had its monents, but it really wasn't that great.

Oh, and Frenchy? The Gauls (or Galli) displaced the Celts in France. Check the book "The Celts" by Frank Delaney, Grafton Books, 1986.

REALLY Ignorant Laundry Guy,

But you ARE Asian so Mike G was pretty close huh? It sounds like you are kind of sensitive about it too.

You should grow up, what are you 15-16? Scrapplers will not save the planet, WHAAA? I've been misled; I'm going to sue Scott Ott for false advertising. I really thought I was an important international figurehead making and affecting policy decisions. I canít thank you enough for your hand in my epiphany, and the way you get my whites SOOO white.

And you are some Rockefeller type guy because you own a laundry mat??? Now whose being naive. It sounds to me like bitterness from your undeveloped potential is spilling out through your posts.

Get down on your knees and kiss the ground that is America!!!

Indigent Laundry Guy
Is there a cultural difference between Taiwan,Hong Kong and the mainland?
Your breed were refered to as chinese long long long before Formosa was inhabited by Chank Kai Cheks inferior military.
Now give me that ancient chinese secret or at least a friggin eggroll or I'll blind ya lemon butt with some dental floss..

ynot,
"you accuse others of “hate” three times"
whooh, you got me ! I said Ken hated hearing Israel flacked, o yeah and I said calling Pals animals indicated hate ! yet I get accused of hate ! you notice I've never described Jews as animal nor do I think that.

"you have nothing but bad things to say about Israel"
yup, I'm redressing the balance, I've never heard you or any of a dozen other posters write anythng but bad things about Pals for that matter.

"What do you think of the entire middle east population being taught ..." yep well I don't know about the entire middle east population but when it occurs its wrong. you see thats the difference between a moderate like me and you !
I doubt you'd ever condemn Israel electing terrorists as PM and I doubt you'd ever condemn Rabbi Yossef, leader of Shas: a party i the ISraeli government that gets 12% of Israeli votes, for saying Arabs should be annihilated ! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1321619.stm
"In April, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef called for the annihilation of the "evil and damnable" Arabs " or the late tourism minister who called Pals cockroaches.
So I'm a cheerleader for pointing out the truth ?
that Palestine was 2/3 Pal and they were ethnically cleansed, that Israel has elected a string of terrorists as PM, that Israel is defying the road map, that Israel's settlements are illegal ?
I'd like to say you're the biggest ISraeli cheerleader I've ever met. But in fact you're only one of many whether or not you're Sharon's minister for propaganda.

Srg,

Have to go with Blazing Saddles - but then from my own personal experience,
I get my kicks from Champaign.
I have a funny Mel Brooks story but if I told it then someone might figure out who I am.
It would sort of be like telling on ones own self.

Ynot Use your Brain More Often,

It is called Parody.
Reread it or have somebody read it for you. People from Taiwan are no more Chinese than people from north Korea are Korean.
I am not sensitive at all. As a white child being raised by black parents that believed in giving me all the advantages of their Japanese culture, I have learned to ferret out other peopleís lack of sensitivity and their frivolous doublespeak by using my own advantaged Eurocentric mindset.Besides it really ticks me off. I hate people who espouse hatred.I really hate them.
After reading your brief expose of writers block. High for your standards - I might add. I am convinced you would be a great gag writer for Marcel Marceau. He seldom used readily recognized similarities in his comedic styling. And you sir have that very strong gift. Cherish your talents.

MikeG,

By the way,
Marcel Marceau was Jewish and one of the most notorious Palestinian mime suppressors ever in the middle east.
He believed completely completely in denying them the ability to have free speech.
You should instantly despise him.
One less person for your christmas card list.
I know you donít celebrate Hanakuh.

And in conclusion I must get back to machine number 4, but it goes without saying, you sirs are the biggest Lutzís I have ever had the displeasure to encounter. I donít mean that in a "figure skating' descriptive.
I am discontinuing our relationship post-hence. Consider yourselves irrelevant.
-(SRG not included).

yo rand,

actually it was me who said the Gauls were Celts
maybe I'm wrong, I did find something on the web re Delaney that suggests you're right, it didn't seem 100% clear though at first glance http://www.ibiblio.org/gaelic/Celts/celtshistory.html

this link suggests the Gauls were Celts, it doesn't sound like a kosher academic site though
http://realmagick.com/articles/01/1301.html
"I haven't been able to figure out from the sources which type was spoken by the mainland Celts, e.g., the Gauls"

Laundry Guy - I got it.Even if they didn't.I am only 15. I will be 16 soon. Does that mean they don't like kids? Why do they keep telling us to go away?Are those men evil? Wow I just noticed something if you take the "E" from evil and place it at the end - it spells "vile". They should should write "evil" on a piece of paper and hold that word up in the mirror.

Man, this Middle East stuff is depressing.

Anyone heard any good Rachel Corrie jokes lately?

Posted by: gabsboy on July 9, 2003 11:48 AM

How about, "What was the last thing on her mind?"

"A Tank!"

CR- Thank you for agreeing with me, we are both OK. You admitted you are driven by hate AND you admitted you have nothing but bad things to say about Israel. Of course you rationalize it with ìredressing the balanceî but motives aside, you are an anti-Semtie.

You did finally admit that what many Arabs are being taught is wrong ñ quick check your copy of the Koran as it may be on fire due to your treason.

This might sting a little, you said ìI'd like to say you're the biggest ISraeli cheerleader I've ever met.î CR ñ go find even one thing Iíve posted that would lead you to believe that, I DARE YOU!! I have not lauded Israel once; I simply tried to balance your extremely biased views. Now that you admit you are a terrible distorter of truth and justice, and you love all Arabís and hate all Jews, you can start to grow.

RILG ñ Please donít come back - PLEASE. But if you do, could you recommend my writing skills to Mr. Marceau, I would love that gig. If only average schmoes (not smoes) are blogging, whatís your excuse? Did you expect us to stop posting because some one-timing arrogant self-important whiner tells us we are not solving the worldís problems. You have incredible nerve, are you really Frenchman (oxymoron)?

Laundry Dude, I liked "Blazing Saddles", but my favorite scene from a Brooks movie is, from "Young Frankenstein", where the monster, (Peter Boyle) meets the blind man, (Gene Hackman).

Seeing the original "Frankenstein" movie is a must, to fully appreciate the scene!

P.S. Laundry Guy, Are you also a M.D.?

Ynot,

Are you really that humorless? How do you get the nerve impulses in your brain to send signals to your funny bone? Please stop trying to hurt my feelings. Canít you see I am very sensitive person? It may be true that when it comes to public coping skills, you arenít at the level of most people, but I am not so cruel, that I would want you to be confused. Your ability to make an occasional point, is not like being able to carry on a normal conversation. You just arenít that consistent. Be glad that I cared enough to help you when no one else would. When I mentioned you to consider yourself irrelevant I didnít mean I was leaving ñ I just meant you were irrelevant. I was being kind to you. I was bringing attention to your insignificance. I am a great motivator. I care about people. I care about my customers.

The funny thing about my whole diatribe was that I was being satirical about everyone posting. I couldn't care less what you post. You are entitled to your own opinion. You are entitled to your own level of silliness. I donít agree with everything Comical Rummy says but at least he is funny. He certainly has a right to his opinions.Unfortunately, so do you.But - I was making fun of all of us. We are all getting too serious. That was the indignant part of the story. Try to stay awake during the reflective moments. I know itís hard. I didnít even single you out with those comments. You volunteered your own insecurities. I donít even work in a laundry. Do you finally get it? I had such high hopes for you. Sometimes you can be so conservative. MikeG has his own set of problems. Maybe you guys should get together and start a support group for people that go bonk, when they hit there heads together.

Your reference to me mistyping "smoe" is fairly well documented for you being a [non] one-timing arrogant self-important whiner - unlike me. I meant to actually type smee. I eften confuse my ìeísî and ìoísî. Give your self ten points for my total humiliation.

But do allow me the kindness to let you know what a smee is, considering that I have captured your short attention span.
A smee is a small white crested duck that quacks loudly to warn the other ducks in their collective duckdom when a predator is near. Kind of a stupid duck, when you consider he is usually the first to get attacked because he draws so much attention to himself. Trust me it is good advice. Donít continue to be a ìsmeeî. Frenchman has been setting you up since the first day he arrived. He isnít even French and I wouldnít imitate the handicapped, so I canít be him. You are his plaything.

If you canít appreciate the help I am offering you -Learn your public coping skills somewhere else ñ I have shirts to clean . For the second time now - you are irrelevant.

PS. Where do you get your shirts cleaned? I am running a two for one special. You give me two and I give you back one.

san Serin-Done, Just Asking!,

I agree that was hysterical.
Dr.Frankensteen actually brings his white shirts into my Laundry shop on a regular basis for consultations.
As for being an MD, - I do regularly consult with many people in the medical fields about the acidity of starch and its dangerous side effects, but I have never had an opportunity to study medicine. I don't believe the infamous Dr. Stuhl and I have ever been in the same room at the same time - though - so I can understand most peoples confusion. I do believe his credentials and his ability to convert the unconverted are impeccable and I am sure he is with us in one form or another. ;)

RILG - Thanks for the advice

Mike G: No thanks. If you asked EX-president (oh, how I love the sound of that) Clinton, he'd probably say yes, but not me. I am an eeeeeevil Right-Wing Neanderthal regarding that issue. And by the way, I haven't been called Kenny for quite a while.

Zeus: Actually, (I know I'm going to be called a crackpot for this...) the Comforter (Jesus' name for the second coming) is already here forever. Thousands of people have been healed without the use of any medicine or material remedies, in well-documented cases of difficulties including terminal cancers (including cases which had been given up by conventional medicine with less than a year to live), genetic diseases, injuries, addictions to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs, longstanding allergies (my father lost his strong allergies to cats, chocolate, and coffee), and broken bones, among other things. It's called Christian Science. Check it out sometime.

Ynot: HEY!! Enough of the ageist discrimination! You're hurting my self-esteem! I'm going to start a $20 million suit against you for 'emotional trauma' ;) Of course, I'm joking. Hopefully, no self-esteems were harmed in the making of this post.

Ken:

PETSE (Peepul for the ethikal treetment of self esteams) is watching you.

I stand corrected:

USA and Israel have something in common :

They are both populated by colonists who stole a Land and who now pretend that God gave it to them.

Posted by: Frenchman on July 10, 2003 09:18 AM

ynot,

". You admitted you are driven by hate AND you admitted you have nothing but bad things to say about Israel."
is this what you resort to when you realise you can't defend Israel's record. I have never said I am driven by hate: you're seriously equating my saying "Ken hated hearing Israel criticised" with " mny admitting I am driven by hate": well I *hate" (ha ha) to get personal but you are just peddling obvious lies here !
And actually if you check my posts you'll see I am much more moderate re Israel than you are re the Pals: in fact I have YET to see you say one complimentary thing regarding the Pals.

you are costantly defending Israel: in your 1st post on this board you accuse anyone condemning Israels record as antisemitic, you trot out the old line that "we" apparently including Israel are merely defending themselves against terror and try and deny the Pals right to their homeland.

you also refuse to condemn - despite my invitation - Israeli leaders when they endorse genocide. what is it that you like about Yossef then ? if its not that he's israeli is it his liking for genocide that appeals ?

you claim I distort truth but its noticeable that you can't contradict a single fact I've stated. since you're not pro-Israel (ha ha ha) bu tonly interested in balance can we see you strongly criticsie a pro-Israel poster ? in fact you can contact scrappleface to demand, in the interets of the lack of bias you endorse, an anti-Israel satire since the last 4 or 5 on the ME theme have ALL been anti-Israel

But you won't will you ? because you're a huge fan of Israel, can't stand valid debate about the ME and try and distort all criticism of Israel (as I notice you have YET AGAIN) as Jew-hate.
you're pathetic and you've been thoroughly busted on this boards

whoops correction to last post to ynot
it should read
in fact you can contact scrappleface to demand, in the interests of the lack of bias you endorse, an anti-Israel satire since the last 4 or 5 on the ME theme have ALL been anti-Palestinian

I have been in the desert for 40 days facing my temptations ... and it has been revealed to me that antisemetic diatribes are in fact, inherently satirical and belong in SCRAPPLEFACE. Any statements in support of death worshipping pawns spawned in a sea of hatred are patently satirical regardless of the intent of the author. I apologize Mike G., Lugubrious Dummy, et al, you're not fascists, you are comedians.

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Hello bigslime and indigent laundry guy,ken stein,rummy,random and all the scrapple players.
Still counting sublime eh???
Sorry Ken
have a cousin ken and we call him kenny as his dad is ken,old habit as young ken is 55-60.
Who says im not a fascist?
Who is Marcel Marceau??Was he in the Vichy Govt washing German feet too?
I hate mimes more than clowns,that isnt entertainment its friggin torture.

The performance artist needed a room:
"Brother, can you lair a mime"
"Yes, but only if he isn't German. A Hun is the lowest form of roomer."

*rim shot*

awwwwwww......i couldn't post that??? can satire really be OFFENSIVE? i guess it can only be satire scott agrees with, or finds humorous.

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Just because I can't get the count right doesn't mean I should not be heard. I am not an animal, I am a human bean.

Allemachtig, wat een niveau ineens!

Dat we tot #173 gekomen, hoeft niet te betekenen
dat we ZO laag moeten zakken!

heh!

LN

ji ben eigelik #174 en u schrijved beter in Nederlandse dan ik. Ik ken it wel lezen beter dan schrijven. Nederlandse praaten ken ik wel aardig goet doen.

Tot ziens,

echten leuken kat-meijse

Getting the count right isnt nearly as important as the actual time spent on counting.
AHHHHHHH 2PM
time for a calm pill...

Mike G--after ya take your calm pill...scroll to the bottom of Scotts piece and you'll find the number (:~})......Ya gotta do it that way because if you try to count all of them...you may THINK you're a number you're not cuz someone unbeknownst to you cuts in front of you....capiche?...and is that revelation life changing? (:~})

Mike G.,

If only LFC knew what was being counted...

Well I've stopped counting, found no correlation to either native intelligence or accumulated knowledge and still the Palestinians have not established a state. Well, they had their chance and they blew it (so to speak).

Sublime your sense of humor certainly makes up for your political stances.
You sir are a friggin scream and I'd like to tip my hat to you this afternoon for making the last 6 hours fly by.
Sorry el-gato I know not of what youre refering to unless its directly related to sublimes task for the last 24hours

Mike G I guess I don't know what I was talking about either since I didn't know what you were talking about as it must be "code" between you and sublime--who speculated I didn't know what I was talking about,capiche?? (:~}). I thought you were following the #173, #174 count..which is what I assumed the first Dutchie was referring to. None of it's important. It's hot......I'm sleep deprivd and my Yerba Mate'tea (legal cat nip for humans LOL) hasn't kicked in yet.! Presently is it difficult syllables to together put me for.!

Ya lfc
it was a dig i threw out at him yesterday when i was questioning his intelligence.
y'all have a great weekend the sandy shores of virginia beach are callin..
peace out
god bless america

Abominable Dummy

One of us IS pathetic but I checked and it’s not me. The only “bust” on this board is your Pal flag waiving anti-Semitic garbage. I’ve never heard anyone defend the Pals so much -hence my warning to other scrapplers that you are actually Yasar Arafat’s information minister. You are really sensitive about that hate word huh?? You are filled with hate. You are filled with hate. You are filled with hate. You are filled with hate.

You are probably angling for some donation to a “Kill all Jews” cause. Your hate-driven parents taught you well. Now they send you 50 cents every time you get a hit on your “Kill all Jews” website. This is probably the only way you can afford to stay in this wonderful country. Well sorry to disappoint but I won’t be donating today, or tomorrow. I will never donate except to irritating you.

I'm not playing your game, your playing mine. Please respond to this right away so I can continue laughing. Your favorite scrappler - Ynot

there are no rules

('cept Note: ScrappleFace readers are intelligent enough to express themselves without obscenities.(:~}))

ynot,
well I bet you regret that last post.
what a load of hate filled BS (ha ha).
Still no sign of you giving a sensible defence of Israel's bloody record.
Still no sign of you requiring your much claimed "lack of bias" from pro-Israel posters.
Whenever I see anti-Pal posts and anti-Pal satire I'll be right behind it with the facts.
It seems this is required as some people don't know the facts: eg you were unaware that 2/3 of the inhabitants of Palestine were Pal Arabs in 1947. Ken was under the impression that Israel had agreed to end its occupation of Pal land in the West Bank and Gaza if the Pal resistance ceased: in fact Israel has made it clear it will NEVER end its occupation of Pal land.
I don't expect thanks for bringing these facts to your attention.
Just carry on with your whining - I enjoy that even more.

Comical Rummy,

I am masterfully proud of my last post thank you. Now read this carefully because I’m typing fast.

You admitted you rail against Israel to “redress the balance.” I admitted that Israel is not perfect. You admitted that it was wrong when Arabs are taught false and damning things about Jewish people. This is real progress. I am not aware of Israel’s past leaders being terrorists, but it’s possible you’re right about that.

So you are down with Israel and America because we financially support them? You think it’s unfair that Israel gets financial help from Uncle Sam? Are you aware of the amount of money that flows into the Pal’s region from Arabic Princes? Do you know these same Princes give tens of millions (or payoffs?) to terrorist organizations including your hero’s in Pal that are killing innocent people. Notice how I typed people and not Jews? How can you defend people that kill completely innocent people, i.e. women, children, pedestrians, workers??? Regardless of where people happen to be born (or into what nationality, religion, etc.) they don’t deserve to be killed by some maniac who is so demented that they think homicide bombing will really solve some problems. We are all just people Rummy.

So now that you know that Arabic princes are donating to terrorist causes like the Pals, would you please start emailing them with the same outrage and disgust you have been posting here? Please?

I read with my own eyes within the last two weeks that Israel agreed to end the occupation, or at least parts of it. But the killing of innocent people by the Pals HAS TO STOP FIRST. Parental test: Your kid is screaming and throwing a fit for candy. Do you give it to him? (I say no) Palestinians are murdering innocents so they can gain statehood. Do you give it to them? Rummy says yes. Or did I just strike the real nerve?? Pals don’t want statehood - they want to push all the Jews into the sea. With Rummy behind them cheering them on. But you’re not an anti-Semite. OOOOKKKKK?!?

Now enough of this silly drivel. I am seriously done with you! Any time I need to be reminded of how one-sided someone’s brain can became, I’ll think of you Rummy. Do walk with your head tilted to the left? See that’s humor. Like RILG was saying, less serious, and more jokes (like you Rummy.)

Oh, you're so welcome. The only thing you have accomplished is to destroy my former belief that all people have something good about them. Good post, Ynot. And I don't think I ever said that about the West Bank and Gaza. Could you please find whatever gave you that impression? The only thing I can think of is maybe the thing about Israel not giving them back until they agreed that Israel was a sovereign state.

ynot,
"I am not aware of Israel’s past leaders being terrorists, but it’s possible you’re right about that." well thats progress, I AM right about that, you can check Begin and Sharon's bloody record for yourself. The next step you have to take is to CONDEMN their terrorism.

I hear all the time allegations regarding how much money Arab states give the Pals, how much ends in terrorist hands seems to vary - a fraction of the amount we give to Israeli terrorists: severl $ bill - though I concede its likely relatives of suicide bombers got compensation maybe from Saddam at one point.
I thing I can rely on other people to display disgust, unlike Israeli terrorism Palestinian terrorism isn't some hidden scoop. tell you what: I'll the Arab states when you email Israel expressing your disgust that they elect terrorists as PM and whemn you email GWB stating your horror that we sponsor such an Israeli terror state !

"Israel agreed to end the occupation, or at least parts of it. " ah well there's the rub. read it closer: even where they claim occupations have ended then road blocks etc remain, but the main point I was making is that ISrael refuses EVER to end the occupation. they will not even DISCUSS ending the main settlements that are illegal in internation law allowing the Pals a state in the remaining 22% of their former homeland.

"Or did I just strike the real nerve?? " yep you struck a nerve, isn't that exactly what we did when we gave Israel a state in 1947. O what rubbish - not the old Pals want "to push the Jews into the sea" line
the fact of it is their actions - and words - since 1947 and before indicate the Israelis want to push the Pals into the sea, mopping up the last remnants of their land. terrorism may not be right but given they are facing extinction don't know what they are supposed to do. I guess it'd be nice of Israel stopped seizing their land and drving them into smaller enclaves but with people like you cheering them on and with mucho US $ and military/diplomatic help behind them they won't do that.
"Now enough of this silly drivel"
well you said it !

Ken,
I said "Ken was under the impression that Israel had agreed to end its occupation of Pal land in the West Bank and Gaza if the Pal resistance ceased"
because thats exactly you said http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001015.html "However, Israel will not leave the captured land until the palestinians stop suicide bombing. We now have what is known in the computer industry as a 'deadly embrace'. A needs to happen before B will happen, and B needs to happen before A will happen."

but I'm glad if you now recognise thats not the case !

I loved all of Mel Brooks' movies...even "The Producers" and "The Twelve Chairs" as well as the
Adlerhof home movies he did of Der Fuhrer.

Frenchman, as usual your ignorance of American History is showing. As to 'colons', well let's just say that there are French Americans who
would just as soon not know that they came from the 'bowel' that france has become.

In our revolutionary war we didn't slaughter women and children. You peasants did that using Mdme. La Guillotine. We KNOW about the atrocities the french committed during the french and Indian war, which france also lost.

I wonder if Dr. Stuhl can do a bowel resect on frenchman?

LaFarge,
maybe not during the revolutionary war but there were plenty of women and children masscred during the Indian Wars, the sneak attack at Sand Creek for starters
http://www.sandcreek.org/Massacre/massacreindex.htm

i like michael bolton's music!!

Dear Madame Lafarge,

"We KNOW about the atrocities the french committed during the french and Indian war, which france also lost."

You are like your President. You are talking a lot but not providing any evidence.

I already discussed the alleged French atrocities a few weeks ago...

I am still waiting for a credible list of the alleged atrocities !

Cordialement,

I said "Ken was under the impression that Israel had agreed to end its occupation of Pal land in the West Bank and Gaza if the Pal resistance ceased"
because thats exactly you said http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001015.html "However, Israel will not leave the captured land until the palestinians stop suicide bombing. We now have what is known in the computer industry as a 'deadly embrace'. A needs to happen before B will happen, and B needs to happen before A will happen."

No, you misunderstood me. I said that Israel would not leave until that happened. I did not say that they agreed to leave when it stopped. That is only one of the requirements. Is that clear enough, or do I have to say it another hundred times before you get it?

And I agree: CR's comments are so crazy that they must be satire! Either that, or he is indeed the PA Information Minister.

so Ken,
when you said "However, Israel will not leave the captured land until the palestinians stop suicide bombing." you didn't mean that Israel has any intention of leaving the Occupied Territories at all.
OK what are these 100 or 1000 conditions you think that Israel needs before it abandons its illegal settlements ? is the sun freezing over one of them ?
you know that Israel has NO intention under ANY circumstances of removing its illegal settlements controling the heart of the remaining Pal land they need for their state.
Sharon has said so: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/15/world/main554018.shtml
and the us-israel.org link on the 14 reservations showed Israel refuses even to discuss ending its illegal activity.
well until Israel complies with international law I think Pal resistance will continue so less of this "deadly embrace" nonesense, its clear that its Israel that is the obstacle to peace.

LFCat,

Niet sleg! (# 175)

CR - promised links coming up sometime.

LN