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EPA to Monitor eBay Sales of Person Carbon Offsets

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A little-noticed provision of President Obama’s cap-and-trade plan to regulate greenhouse gases authorizes the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to monitor the sale of personal carbon dioxide offsets on eBay and Craigslist.
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  • 1 onlineanalyst // Jun 26, 2009 at 9:04 am

    WSJ’s Kim Strassel further debunks the delusions of the Cap and Trade crowd as formerly muzzled climate experts are speaking up against this con game.

  • 2 Newsman // Jun 26, 2009 at 9:17 am

    Scott told me offline that EPA is giving serious consideration to doing a study of the high level of noxious bible thumper gases being released on Scrappleface.

  • 3 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Hey, this is how I find out what my wife is up to? It’s just not right!

    “a middle-aged woman who just loves HGTV but never works in her home or garden”

    “never” is a tad strong but she watches way more home improvement shows than actual doing…but she knows how!

  • 4 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 10:30 am

    The best thing about buying personal carbon offsets on EBay is that we don’t have to factor in the typical 300% shipping cost…

  • 5 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 10:37 am

    Goes “air mail” for free…is that what you’re implying?

  • 6 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 10:49 am

    “Goes…air…mail…” *wipes a tear*

    I dare anyone to top that fabulous pun.

    Please.

    :)

  • 7 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 26, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Iranian senior hard-line cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami is going to have the protesters executed for the crime of wanting their votes to be counted.

    Khatami, a member of the Assembly of Experts, said the judiciary should charge the leading “rioters” as being “mohareb” or one who wages war against God.

    “They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely,” he said. Under Iran’s Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as “mohareb” is execution.

    God Bless America

  • 8 SGT USMC 1ea // Jun 26, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    To do my part- last year I purchased all of the shares of air-amerikka satellite radio for 27 bucks. I then voted for them to stop transmitting at my first shareholders meeting. This should place me and my progeny at a negative carbon emissions ratio for approximately 29,000 years.

    Deus est Semper Fidelis

  • 9 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    SGT, that should do it!

  • 10 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    JL3, way to stay on topic.

    Imagine, Iran is like a whole different country with different culture/values/laws. They have elections and everything. They have electricity, running water, cars. They go to work, they go to church, they take vacations. They go to the theater. They live their lives.
    We don’t approve of everything (possibly anything) they do…imagine that. Big whoop
    Who made us God? Judge/jury?
    Perhaps we do things that annoy them. What course of action would you suggest they take to address these matters? Sanctions? Invasion?

  • 11 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Boberin says:

    “We don’t approve of everything (possibly anything) they do…imagine that. Big whoop
    Who made us God? Judge/jury?
    Perhaps we do things that annoy them.”

    Not quite sure what brought on that tirade, Boberin. JL3 was merely passing on information from a Reuters article that shows a high-ranking Iranian leader demanding executions because their people dared to speak out.

    They claim to be a democracy, yet they threaten execution when their citizens speak. I’d say that goes beyond “doing things that annoy.”

  • 12 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    “Threaten” is the key word…won’t happen

    It could be argued that the citizens went a tad beyond protest, bordered on or degenerated completely into actual rioting.

    How they handle this is their business…we’ve meddled much, much too much with that country in particular. For some reason those actions did not endear us to them. Thus they will not listen/negotiate now. A change is needed, leaving them to sort out their own affairs is a fine start. They didn’t send tanks into the street to arbitrarily mow down average citizens.

    The G8 just came out with their view…they said to “quit it”…so the problem is likely solved anyway.
    Besides, we dis-invited them to our 4th of July bash, That’s enough punishment, don’t you think?

  • 13 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Boberin says:

    “‘Threaten’ is the key word…won’t happen”

    OK, well since you say so…

    “How they handle this is their business…we’ve meddled much, much too much with that country in particular.”

    Not saying I disagree entirely. I just don’t think it hurts to keep an eye on whether or not their actions match their rhetoric. What happens if they do “send tanks into the street to arbitrarily mow down average citizens”? Do we step up then, or do we continue “not meddling”?

    “The G8 just came out with their view…they said to ‘quit it’…so the problem is likely solved anyway.
    Besides, we dis-invited them to our 4th of July bash, That’s enough punishment, don’t you think?”

    I’m having a hard time following your tone, Boberin. You start out seriously arguing that we should stand back and leave Iran to handle its own problems, then you adopt what appears to be a sarcastic tone when describing the likely null effect of the weak diplomatic efforts put forth thus far by us and other nations.

    Is there any point at which the United States should acknowledge that, you know, there might be a problem in Iran? I mean, I understand that we’re in far worse shape here at home, what with the rightwing nutjobs and all, but where’s the threshold?

  • 14 onlineanalyst // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    The State Department “disinvited” the Iranian diplomats because 1) not one invitee RSVPed aye or nay and 2)Obamao put his finger into the wind while Axelrod and Emanuel took a quick poll that discovered that American citizens were angry and felt betrayed by this affront to our nation of liberties. Get the sequence of events correct, boberin.

    Maybe the Iranians know what kind of fireworks that NoKo is planning for our country for the Fourth and don’t want to have front-row seats.

  • 15 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    The “outrage” that the rest of the planet displays (and the “Pubs” want more of from Obama) is laughable.
    That being said it’s practical as well. We know zero facts. It’s generally agreed that Aminanutjob most likely did win the “election” anyway but admittedly it could not have been truly determined in the few hours between polls closing and the “winner” being named.
    No matter which one “wins” it’s still a “rock and a hard place” situation.
    The gummint (maybe, we don’t know this for certain either) killed 20 people. Those people may have been protestin, may have been rioting/looting/attacking police/each other/God knows what.

    We know very little as “fact”…even if all accusations are true it’s little to none of our business. People are being unjustly slaughtered, starved, beaten, you name it…all over the world at rates far greater than 20 in 2 weeks.

    We have a multitude of woes right here are home. We have 2 wars currently in progress, not doing all that swimmingly with either.

    Tempest in a teapot. I’m tired of being told to dance like a puppet every time something somewhere happens to someone in a country we don’t see eye to eye with. If the UN decides that the situation warrants worldwide action then lets pitch in as we should…

    We know nothing and we are supposed to be all worked up over something that, no matter how it concludes, won’t matter a whit.

    Sick of it…

  • 16 camojack // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    EPA, eBay…is there a difference?

    J/K. I’ve got to cash in on this carbon offset scam somehow. How about if I take people’s conscience money in exchange for riding my Harley instead of driving my truck as often as possible? ;-)

  • 17 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Boberin says:

    “Tempest in a teapot. I’m tired of being told to dance like a puppet every time something somewhere happens to someone in a country we don’t see eye to eye with.”

    I’m with you there. I’m not suggesting that we instigate a war or anything. I think Iran has enough eyes watching it right now that the chances of them resolving their situation somewhat satisfactorily are pretty good. However, that wouldn’t happen if everyone else just turned a blind eye and let Iran handle its own business behind closed doors.

    “We know nothing and we are supposed to be all worked up over something that, no matter how it concludes, won’t matter a whit.”

    I’m sure you’re referring to the election between the two candidates, which, in and of itself, probably isn’t all that consequential. However, I believe it’s become a symbol to the people of Iran, an opportunity to show the world that their government doesn’t speak for them. I think it’s clear to anyone who’s been keeping up on the situation that things have changed, and what happens will matter, far more than a “whit.” The Iranian people are growing tired of their dictatorship-in-democratic-clothing, and they’re finally speaking up. Most tellingly, the quiet, hidden-away women are showing their faces and speaking out.

    Hopefully, the Iranian people will sort this whole thing out themselves, ending up with a more representative government. However, if their government turns to slaughter and silencing critics, it’s the responsibility of the U.N. to step in and demand human rights for the Iranian people.

  • 18 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Over time, the hundreds of thousands of demonstrators have shifted their focus from protesting the widely-doubted election results to denouncing the legitimacy of the regime itself. Chants of “Death to the dictator” have replaced “Death to America” on Iranian streets.

    ~~~~~
    The 1,200-plus page Waxman-Markey climate change legislation is nothing more than an energy tax in disguise that by 2035 will raise:

    o Gasoline prices by 58 percent
    o Natural gas prices by 55 percent
    o Home heating oil by 56 percent
    o Worst of all, electricity prices by 90 percent

  • 19 boberinyetagain // Jun 26, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    o Gasoline prices by 58 percent
    o Natural gas prices by 55 percent
    o Home heating oil by 56 percent
    o Worst of all, electricity prices by 90 percent

    Ah paying the true cost of energy. That’s just not the American way…not at all!
    But it’s a start

  • 20 JQ // Jun 26, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    This is completely off-topic right now, but I thought it’d be fun to brag…

    We’re having an air show with the Thunderbirds this weekend in Helena, MT. So, all day long, we’ve had F-15s and the Thunderbirds’ F-16s flying all over our small (less than 50K) city. I just came back in after watching the Thunderbirds flying around in formation right in front of my building.

    For a plane geek like myself, it’s awesome.

  • 21 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 26, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Way cool.

  • 22 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 26, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    My mother worked at North American Aviation when they were building the X-15. Columbus OH—late-1950’s. I remember when sonic booms rattled the world.
    ~~~~~
    Note the difference in Germany’s rhetoric from 70 years ago; they’re giving advice to a madman, as well they should. They are somewhat experienced at being swept along on a path of evil; raping, murdering and pillaging the world and, as far as I’m concerned, this validates the sacrifices of WWI and WWII.
    God Bless America
    On a side note: I wonder if Merkel advised BHO to grow a pair or if he decided that he needed to, at the least, appear to be as macho as her there on that podium.

  • 23 JamesonLewis3rd // Jun 26, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    :shock:
    There’s an FAQ regarding the Iran elections over at The Foundry blog that provides a good, factual synopsis of who’s who and what’s what in the Iran thing.

  • 24 onlineanalyst // Jun 26, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Obama sets the pace for the world to follow by urging passage of the Tooth Fairy Bill.

    (The satire’s not as good as yours, Scott, but it will do.)

  • 25 R.A.M. // Jun 26, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    re#19: blabber has said some stupid things before, but to make this assinine statement proves he never again deserves an answer to ANY of his Obamakissing, wing-nut rhetoric!

    blabber, you had better NEVER again come on this site crying about losing a job, or how hard times are as you have in the past after making this statement infering Americans are not paying enough for energy costs!

    You have to be the dumbest person on the planet to not know that these “extra costs”, (taxes), will go into the government wallet, (some of which will help Obama to keep getting that “Chicago pizza fix” occasionaly, or to buy Mrs. O some new expensive sneakers!

    Obamabot sheeple!

  • 26 Laughing@You // Jun 27, 2009 at 3:16 am

    Assembly of Experts?

    Is Fox News broadcasting in Iran too? Does NRO publish a Farsi version?

    If so, I bet their biggest wing-nut wacko on the radio is named Reza Pahlavi, or “Rush” as he is known by the faithful.

    At least the more moderate Iranians don’t have to deal with fundamentalist religious bigots, like we do in America!

    Everthink?

  • 27 Newsman // Jun 27, 2009 at 7:22 am

    “At least the more moderate Iranians don’t have to deal with fundamentalist religious bigots, like we do in America!”

    I would not complain too much abut our homegrown fundamentalists.

    In Somalia ( I belive I am correct on the country) their fundamentalists recently cut off one foot and one hand of a couple of thieves. Don’t know what they were stealing. Maybe a Bible.

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