(2008-11-13) — Claiming that the hectic pace of his work in the U.S. Senate has taken its toll, Barack Obama announced today he would resign his senate seat effective Sunday, and take a couple of months off to relax and finish a tell-all memoir.
“Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’,” said the 47-year-old Illinois Democrat. “Writing gives me that relief from the stress, and frankly, the exhaustion brought on by my periodic exertions as a lawmaker.”
According to a news release from the publisher, the memoir entitled 143 Days That Shaped a Nation: The Senate Career of Barack Obama, “is third in a series of biennial Obama memoirs and promises a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of the senate from an outsider’s perspective, along with personal anecdotes about senate colleagues whom Sen. Obama occasionally met, or heard about.”
“When you have served as long as I have,” said Mr. Obama, “I think you have an obligation to pass on some of that wisdom that comes from your experience for the benefit of the people of the world.”
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich must now choose a replacement who has experience comparable with Sen. Obama’s — a daunting task, the governor said, “when you realize that whomever I pick as junior senator might be just one great speech away from the Democrat presidential nomination.”
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1 boberinyetagain // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:42 pm
He needs a break. A nice hot bath and a long nap seem like a fine plan.
Funny Scott (as always)
2 Mr.Director // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:43 pm
“Whomever I choose” Gov. Rod Blagojevich continued, “he must have the courage of his convictions to vote ‘present’ whenever his conscience allows it.”
3 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:47 pm
There’s talk of making the series into a graphic novel.
4 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 13, 2008 at 5:54 pm
“…..from an outsider’s perspective…..” says it all.
5 Fausta’s Blog » Blog Archive » Thursday afternoon political humor: Scrappleface, Dennis Miller, and widgets // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:10 pm
[...] will resign Senate seat Sunday, so Scrappleface has the background story: Obama Resigns Senate Seat to Write Memoir According to a news release from the publisher, the memoir entitled 143 Days That Shaped a Nation: [...]
6 regcheck // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Scott,
It’s “biennial” memoirs, not “biannual.” We would die if had to suffer two of them each year.
[Editor's Note: Thanks for the correction.]
7 upnorthlurkin // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:20 pm
That would be his third work of fiction wouldn’t it?!
8 Possumtrot // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Did this man ever do an honest day’s labor in his life? I’m coming from the perspective of buying a single gray pinstriped suit off the rack at Sears or Rich’s. We wear them for funerals, weddings, and all stops in between.
Obama was running for president since he hit the Senate, and his previous “job” as “community organizer” strikes my blue-collar self as a sinecure where one displays a finely-tailored suit while bloviating about the need to “help the poor”, who could eat for a year off of what that suit costs.
One of things that has always endeared George W. to me, despite his mistakes, is his continual use of the phrase “hard work.” He may be a child of money and privilege, but I suspect he shoveled out the barns in Texas back in the day, and hasn’t forgotten what stinky work sweat smells like.
I swear, I’m trying to give the new president a chance. Despite the historical precedent, he ain’t making this easy.
There is a wrap-up on politics and some personal news over at United Possums International.
I lived to see a true Internet miracle today. The son of Dad’s jeep driver read my recounting of their war story, and contacted me via e-mail. Who woulda thunk it? After all these decades, I hear from the family of that foggy morning’s other hero. Not to be too shameless, but if you look in the 2007 archives at United Possums International, you’ll find a tale of the Battle of the Bulge on 22 December 44.
9 theporche // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:31 pm
If they count his campaign time they could make it into a mini-series.
10 mig // Nov 13, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I’ll wait for the movie.
11 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 pm
mig Re#10: They’ve already filmed the closing; now all that’s needed is enough material for the other 9:20.
12 Fred Sinclair // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:24 pm
From “The Media Research Center”
Barack Obama’s transition team has tapped Henry Rivera as the
new FCC transition czar. A longtime radical leftist, lawyer and
former FCC commissioner, Rivera strongly supports the so-called
“Fairness Doctrine” and could become the “angel of death” to
conservative talk radio by supporting liberal leadership in a
move to quickly reinstate it.
According to MRC’s Media Reality Check “It’s another troubling
sign that Democrats are serious about trying to reinstate the
long-defunct FCC regulation, which can more aptly be described
as the “Censorship Doctrine” because of its chilling effect on
free speech.” Read the complete story by clicking here:
http://www.mrcaction.org/r.asp?u=13257&RID=17043313
++ Conservative Talk Under Siege
I’m wondering if the ‘fairness doctrine’ is reinstated, could it have unintended consequences for the liberals?
When some blatantly biased liberal newscast is aired on T.V. couldn’t conservatives use the fairness doctrine to demand equal time on the air to represent an opposing viewpoint? Wouldn’t the Station be forced to provide the free equal time space?
I doubt that it can only be applied to A.M. Talk radio and not include T.V. (that would take the fairness out of the fairness doctrine.
But I imagine that Rush has enough $$$ to mount an aggressive counterpoint to the liberal’s scheme. With his $400m 8 year contract I doubt he’ll walk away quietly.
13 gafisher // Nov 13, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I wonder if anyone will point out that
14 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I do believe that there are a lot of folks out there who believe that when Barack Obama says, “yes we can”, it means that we can live outside of God’s laws and not pay any price for doing so. If this man does not have a “road to Damascus” experience we can write this country off. We will never again see the America that once lived by the motto “in God we trust”.
I say this as a realist, not a pessimist. When a “Christian” religion accepts homosexuality as an acceptable “lifestyle”, God does not take the matter lightly. The role of religious leaders is to declare the truths of God to the people so that they will avoid eternal condemnation. Anyone who is negligent in his duties as a minister of the gospel, or that intentionally perverts it is placing themselves in the worst of situations imaginable. They have an obligation to warn their people that “it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”, and they will be held accountable for teaching false doctrines. Such religion is “salt that lost his savour” it is not worth anything, for by it men are condemned to Hell.
There is no sign that America is rejecting these false prophets. Instead we see them hungering for further perversion of eternal truths, and although it may please Mr. Wright to watch as America enters into damnation, it tears at the souls of all who love the LORD their God with all their heart, and with all their soul, and with all their might.
If it doesn’t bother you, then you might want to reevaluate your relationship with the Holy One.
I would suggest to the Governor, that when searching for someone to fill his vacant Senate seat, he find someone who is willing to acknowledge that, no, we cannot…but God can.
15 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:17 pm
And a belated welcome back to you Fred, praise God for what he has done in and through you.
16 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
17 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:30 pm
“Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, must now choose a replacement who has experience comparable with Sen. Obama’s — a daunting task–”
If Al Franken cannot steal the Minn “gig” from Coleman, (and they can wait that long), “OWL” can move to Ill, and be a perfect fit for “The Windy City”!
“OWL” Franken has much the same “experience” as O’Bama.
Wait, –what am I thinking?
Oprah ALREADY lives there!
18 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Are we fervently praying for our nation and its leadership?
Have we absolute faith in our God?
At this hour America is being tried.
19 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Fred re#12, In a “rational world”, I would agree about the “fairness doctrine” going both ways, (not meant as a pun), but with liberals “proving” that abortion on demand, separation of Church abd State, and gay marriage being in the Constitution, they probably will have “proof” that the “fairness” is only for libs!
20 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 10:52 pm
No need for opposing views of the “liberal masses” they will not consider for one minute that their views are wrong, so why allow the conservatives air time to spread lies and distortions of their truth?
21 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Are you satisfied, or do you thirst for something?
22 mindknumbed kid // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
23 camojack // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm
“…third in a series of biennial Obama memoirs”.
Heh. I’m thinking he’s out of the memoir business for a while…
24 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 13, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Maybe the Big OB1 will retire to his ranch for a season, split wood, and ride about on his horse.
Wrong
25 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:15 am
RAMMSTEIN (re. 19)
I’m all for the “fairiness doctrine”. Promoting rights for fairies all over this great land of ours. Come on California! Let ‘em marry!
I know, I know, it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
BTW, the “pregnant man” is preggers again.
26 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 10:59 am
Wow, most hear appear to see/be predicting the “end of days” when most of the country and the world as well sees….brace yourselves….
HOPE! hope like it’s never been seen. the excitement is palpable. If you can’t feel it, you’re likely dead (inside?)
Granted, Obama MIGHT blow this opportunity but it’s an opportunity unlike any before it. How about we let him run things for…I dunno…30 days….2 weeks….some period of time to actually see with our own eyes what happens.
The truly remarkable thing is that I’ve been pegged as the “negative” person here and there used to be a case to be made to that effect.
Well, I officially relenquish that title to the rest of you now. You’ve earned it in spades, put my negativity to shame…congratulations!
27 mig // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:10 am
I remember vaguely that MichelleBelle said that the profits from Barrys’ books paid for their student loans. Will this book pay for his daughters education or is he going to spread the wealth around and pay for our childrens’ education?
28 mig // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:12 am
I don’t expect positve change from Obamas first term in office any more than I expected from Pelosis’ hundred days gaffe.
29 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:53 am
mig, are you applying for the head job at the “negativity” club? Good for you, someone had to step up but remember, there’s lots of competition around these parts.
Personally I see JL3 as the early frontrunner but there’s still time. Step up your game girl!
30 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Pot calling the kettle black. Lame.
31 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Hey – you’ve been raggin’ on Dubya ever since you started here…..we’ve got a lot of catching up to do…..why would a radical leftie give any of us hope?! Communism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried…..just because you want a piece of my pie…..actually feel you’re entitled to it….doesn’t make it moral or right.
32 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Apparently Dumbo has already dropped the change portion of his campaign….and intends instead to relive the Clinton administration …
Oh goodie!!! Kids back in charge!! That worked so well for us!
33 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I’ve been ragging on George for actual “accomplishments” not what he might do…
JL3, I knew you’d step up! You go boy!
34 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:52 pm
YOU GO BOBER!!
That’s what I’m takin about, tell it like it is. I got your back buddy.
35 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Like Boberin said,
At least we gave George a chance to show his incompetence before we started bashing him.
NEW RULE: We the trolls of this site will NOT award anyone an “Obama-hater’ title until AFTER he has taken his oath of office. Try if you like people, but it’s not gonna happen.
36 upnorthlurkin // Nov 14, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Dumbo thinks he’s already king….why wait….?
37 Mack // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I look at this as the judgment Billy Graham told us about when he said so prophetically “If God fails to punish America for abortion, then God will owe and apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.”
Maybe when we reached 50,000,000 dead babies with no indication that we would stop God had enough. Maybe when the homosexual activists not only flaunted God’s word but that society made it common place, even acceptable and mainstream that which God calls an abomination.
I wonder if the tipping point was when liberal courts removed any mention of God’s name or word from public and made it criminal to acknowledge God even at a football game. People were offended, but they couldn’t care less about offending God.
At any rate, we as a nation and as a world are about to get what we asked for. Freedom from God’s intervention. He seems inclined to lets us reap what we have sowed. Oops
38 Mack // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Bober, psot 29
Let him run it , give him a chance, you mean like you liberals gave President Bush a chance?
39 gafisher // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Bober Re#26: “How about we let him run things for…I dunno…30 days….2 weeks….some period of time to actually see with our own eyes what happens.”
Sounds fair to me. I hereby resolve, to the best of my ability, to base my future comments regarding Obama not on speculation — be it hope or fear — but on past performance. If all of us will do the same I think we’ll all get on just famously.
Now, let’s see; where did those “past performance” files go? Oh, wait, [here] is a list to start with.
40 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 2:52 pm
From “The Patriot Post” today – a short excerpt –
“…..On that note, the latest crop of Leftists on their way to Washington under the supervision of President-elect Barack Obama are destined to make a greater mockery of our Constitution than any administration in history.
Clearly, Obama and his ilk have no history of honoring, or intention to honor, their oaths and, in fact, have no context for such honor.
A small cadre of liberals who believe themselves to be “patriots†have asked, “Can’t I be a bona fide Patriot and support Barack Obama?â€In a word … NO, unless in a state of solemn repentance.
In the spirit of charity, perhaps Obama supporters, who self-identify as patriots, are just grossly misinformed about our Constitution, our history and their own civic duty. Of course, they would likewise be grossly deluded about their identity, but perhaps the delusion is temporary.
I would suggest that Obama “patriots†are nothing more than “sunshine patriots,†as Thomas Paine wrote, who “will in crisis, shrink from the service of his country.â€
41 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:14 pm
If past is prologue, Obamao, the community organizer®, will expand his vision of collectivism and dependence on the State until our loss of liberty and self-determination is cast in concrete.
Add me to the list of those who are pessimistice about the future of our nation under an Obama presidency aided by a fiscally incompetent Democrat-controlled Congress.
I’m not the only one who sees the writing on the wall.
Look to our tax-burdened Democrat-run cities with their crony corruption, their bankruptcy, their decayed neighborhoods, their increasing welfare rolls, their crime, and their unachieving schools to predict the flavor of a nation under the Democrat-Obamaworld master plan. America will become Chicago writ large.
BTW will the Obamas’ daughters be enrolled in public schools? Since the manchild does not believe that choice extends to vouchers and scholarships to alternative schools, how does he square his lies to the NEA regarding public schools?
Are you all looking forward to the mandatory/voluntary (Huh?) community service that THE ONE plans to institute for “the greater good”?
Would Obama himself be employed by his own administration if he honestly completed his team’s application? For that matter, would he ever receive approval under the vetting procedures of those agencies that require scrutiny for national security clearance?
42 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Er, that’s “pessimistic” for all our ACORN sympathizers…
43 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Fred, your back, and funny as ever. I do wish you continued improvement in your health.
“President-elect Barack Obama are destined to make a greater mockery of our Constitution than any administration in history.”
Wow, doesn’t the bible say something about staying away from fortune tellers? Maybe?
We’ll have to see what happens, but I think he’s got his work cut out for him to make a bigger mockery of our constitution than Bush/Cheney.
Oh, maybe the auther wasn’t including them in “history” yet because they’re still in office. That must be what it is.
gafisher#39,
Keep up the good work, but your just going to have to wait until January for the label.
Mack#37,
I don’t want to step on Boberin’s toes, but you got my vote for most negative so far on this thread!
44 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm
OLA,
Ya know what my ouija board told me today? That President Obama is actually going to rename the country to Afrimerica! The ouija never lies!
45 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Mack #37 – Reminds me of the Cry out verse:
1Sam. 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
Marriage vows so often break
A friends betrayal is hard to take
Real love – something you can´t fake
Eternal things are here at stake
Chorus:
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
The world´s truth is only lies
False rainbows dance before their eyes
Their god a demon in disguise
The real truth waits to make them wise
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
“Call out to Me, and I will answer you,
Great and mighty things will I show to you”
My heart´s at a raging boil
So little fruit to prove my toil
Pour upon me healing oil
Plant my life in fertil soil
Oh God deliver me!!
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
Cry
Cry out
People cry out to God
46 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:05 pm
BL31U: Strawman, fella. Don’t divert the issue raised.
Redbadger over at Free Republic notes the goals of the Communist Manifesto and how we have already slid down the slippery slope as Big Government seizes more and more control over our lives:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. [KELO v. CITY of NEW LONDON CT]
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. [IRS TAX CODE AS WRITTEN AND TO BE ADDED TO BY NEW CONGRESS]
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. [DEATH TAX]
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.[DRUG TRAFFICKING SEIZURES AND SEIZURES OF ALL TYPES RELATED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY]
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. [FEDERAL RESERVE & BAILOUT WITH TREASURY SECRETARY UNLIMITED POWERS]
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. [FCC + PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF AIRWAVES + FAIRNESS DOCTRINE]
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. [GOVERNMENT BUYING STOCK IN MFG VIA BAILOUTS]
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. [OBAMA’S CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE + PEACE CORPS + EXPANDED AMERICORPS]
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. [ACORN + CRA]
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.[NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND + EDUCATION DEPARTMENT RULES ]
any questions?………….
47 Fred Sinclair // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:16 pm
When the usurper elect produces a certified (by more than one document validating specialist) a genuine original Birth Certificate, proving that he satisfies the Constitutional requirements for Citizenship, then and only then will I recant and acknowledge his Presidency.
Until then he will remain a usurper, a highly skilled scam artist (besting even algore) a sly, cunning, illegal pretender and certainly not my President. His subliminal hypnotism worked surprisingly well. Without his playing the race card I doubt that he would have made it past the first three minutes in the DNC Primaries.
The Democrat Party, which Ronald Reagan was part of until the Party left him and he became a Conservative Republican – the same Proud distinguished honorable Party that gave us Harry Truman (arguably one of America’s top ten Presidents) – that Party has ceased to exist.
48 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Black Lion, no worries, everyone gets to vote. Seems like we are nearly deadlocked here but I’m confident that the cream will rise to the top (JL3 still frontrunning in my book)
This place is quite fond of “end days” predictions because like every generation before them it’s somehow more comforting to assume the world will end during their lives than it is to think that it could muddle on w/o you…
49 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 4:56 pm
OLA, did Obama really get all those things done already? He’s better than I thought, very productive, you’d have to admit that
50 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:02 pm
OLA,
Since George Bush (or Dick Cheney whichever you prefer) is still Captain of this ship, and this country is headed of in the wrong direction, maybe someone should have asked the Captain maybe, say, 4 or 6 years ago, what the heck he was doing.
It’s really no surprise to me, but most of the people here have been playing their own role as Rip Van Winkle, and now you awaken 8 years later, horrified to find our country in trouble.
Warning! Don’t drink any more of that liquor.
51 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Fred,
Exception. YOU keep drinking that liquor. Obama seemed to do just fine without your support.
52 gafisher // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm
BL31U Re#43: “Keep up the good work, but your just going to have to wait until January …”
Aw, c’mon, that assumes Obama has no accomplishments already on his record. I’m saying it’s those we should consider.
Shucks, you’re being harder on the guy than most of us!
53 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:21 pm
blacklion, it’s in trouble and they blame Obama, that’s the neat trick of it…
54 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:28 pm
gafisher,
Sorry buddy, if I allow those to be included then I have to go back into all the muck about how Bush was a failure before he hijacked the office. To be fair, I can’t do that.
Don’t worry; January will be here before you know it. (the sooner the better) But I do appreciate your enthusiasm!
55 BlackLion31U // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Bober,
I know. I think we may have found the last 18% that still think George did a good job. They must be feeling that pain like when the blood rushes into a cold limb. Ouch, that hurts, so I’ll kick the dog!
56 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:38 pm
To my detractors: I said that we are already on a slippery slope, the result of too much bipartisanship BTW, rather than statemanship. Obama’s speeches, generic though they were, and his campaign website evidence a rapid slide into further Big Brotherism and loss of personal autonomy.
The former Czech president Vaclev Havel warns also that legislation and regulation to halt “climate change” (a fool’s errand) is just another avenue to exert control over citizens’ freedoms by the State.
The Democrats want the cover of this administration to bail out the auto industry in order to seize (covertly) another industry and impose “green” standards, as well as pay off the UAW for its support. People’s car, anyone?
Pelosi and Reid wanted a bipartisan bailout for the financial sector in order to point the finger at the Bush administration, too. Bush was a fool to be manipulated by Hank Paulson, whose Goldman-Sachs ties and Democrat allies surely influenced him.
Watch how many Executive Orders become issued within the first 100 days of the Obama presidency. Heck, I imagine that the first month of those should wake up a few people.
57 onlineanalyst // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:41 pm
You’ll have to excuse me now, for I find several of you a distraction. And I want to eat my waffle.
58 boberinyetagain // Nov 14, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Agreed…”we are already on a slippery slope” (your words OLA) but to blame Obama just doesn’t seem right.
He may make that better, he may make it worse but he didn’t put us there…let’s think now…who’s been in charge?
But, apparently we’ve agreed on one month of actual presidency before we impeach him. That seems fair.
59 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 6:45 pm
THIS kind of puerile propaganda is enough to make me jerk my eyeballs out and stomp on them.
Next we’re going to see the Cheshire Grin of that Obsequious Narcissist superimposed on a crucifix.
Sickening.
My archived worst-case-scenarios from the last couple of years regarding BHO have already been shown to be not nearly paranoid enough. Not even close.
[bold mine]
60 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 8:58 pm
President-elect Obama is ready to rule on day one. Not as president, for presidents lead, but as messiah.
Funortunately he is following in his democratic “fathers” footsteps to do evil in the sight of the Lord.
God only knows what our future will be, however we are not the first nation which having experienced his hand of blessing has chosen to abandon him. We can see through biblical history how things went for the nation of Israel, one of many passages is found in 2 Kings 13.
Instead of thinking Obama this and Bush that, America better be tuning in to what God is planning to do. He alone has the power to strengthen, and the power to destroy.
Study the Word of God and see for yourself which path we are on. They will not tell you on CNN, MesSNBC, or Fox. By the time the details are reported on there it will be too late to effect an outcome.
“Wow, most hear appear to see/be predicting the “end of days†when most of the country and the world as well sees….brace yourselves….
HOPE! hope like it’s never been seen. the excitement is palpable. If you can’t feel it, you’re likely dead (inside?)”
Can’t imagine the antichrist (not saying BHO is or is not) being received in any other manner. So much for popular opinion…
61 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I understand that in this modern era we are not responsible for our actions, our faults, our sins. So in the light of this new found enlightenment I am forced to recant everything I have said that implies that God may not be looking upon our nation with favor. I understand it is not our personal or national shortcomings that determines our future on this earth, but rather the greatness of our leaders and our collective intellect. Now of a surety I can understand that the man Obama is the One, praise the planetary system, we’re saved!!!
62 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Or, in the words of the followers of Gore – Al-lelujah!
63 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Now we can get the key-o-toyoto treaty signed and the planet will continue forever, Oman!
64 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 9:21 pm
More Evian, fellow citizens?
65 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 14, 2008 at 10:07 pm
The Bible concisely delineates several criteria which must manifest themselves in the resume of a contender before their consideration for the role of The Antichrist [as yet, these requirements have not been met]—an interesting Topical Study, by the way, following the Typology interwoven with Prophecy for edification directly from Almighty God.
I would say, for example, that Hitler was an antichrist [a poseur] but not The Antichrist.
~~~~~
Matthew 6:25-34
Thank you
66 Darthmeister // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Writing the memoirs shouldn’t be too hard if its going to be about ObaMarx’s actual legislative accomplishments. I mena, it would take only about ten minutes to write a couple paragraphs don’t ya think?
Half a Dozen Agencies Accessed “Joe the Plumber’s Records
Freakin’ left-wing fascists. I guess this is the kind of “change” we can expect from Obama’s brownshirts … the politics of personal destruction.
67 mindknumbed kid // Nov 14, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Very much agreed.
68 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:15 am
It’s interesting how those who have engaged in such venomous feral hatred of President Bush for the last five or six years now demand that we shouldn’t criticize the statements that Mr. Obama has already made that if enacted could deepen the Reid-Pelosi recession, enlarge the welfare plantation, diminish this country’s ability to defend itself, and infringe upon the natural rights of a free people (vis a vis some warped “Fairness Doctrine”, for example).
Unlike liberals with respect to President Bush, we should give Mr. Obama’s policy “changes” a fair hearing, that is, we don’t resort to lies and hysterical whining. Instead we should let the cold hard facts speak for themselves as to Mr. Obama’s competence as MOTUS.
There won’t be any reason to lie if in, say, two or three years there are still homeless people on the streets, inflation is above 6%, if the financial markets stay flat, our military strength is substantially weakened, our enemies abroad rejoice even more in the “fall of Great Satan” (I mean, aren’t all the enemies that President Bush allegedly created suppose to fall in love with us?), gasoline is $5/gal and climbing, we become more dependent on foreign sources of energy, all the poor people’s bills are getting paid by Big Brother, taxes continue to climb, home mortgage rates are above 8%, etc., and multi-billion dollar corporations are still whining for bailouts.
As we all know, there are natural economic cycles which do occur which are outside the control of the office of the presidency and to a lesser degree outside the control of a tax-and-spend Congress, but if social security, healthcare and the rest of the entitlement state continue to grow in leaps and bounds, that can depress any economy, particularly if ever higher taxes are being levied during a recessionary period. And even if the middle-class isn’t being directly targetted by taxes, the simple reality is ALL taxes are ultimately paid by the consumer.
Though on the one hand I’m very desirous to see Mr. Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress actually do the conservative thing by keeping taxes low, not grow government, make America more energy independent by using more of our domestic energy sources like coal, oil, nuclear and hydro-electric power (let’s face it, green power looks great on paper but windmills and solar cells simply aren’t going to get the job done unless their is a ten-fold increase in their efficiency – personally I believe room temperature fusion holds more promise but that’s little more than a pipedream right now), and keep America militarily strong, I WILL NOT be a part of or applaud an enlargement of the welfare plantation and Democrats turning America into a socialist velvet gulag.
Unlike how the liberals conducted themselves during the Bush Administration, conservatives should be the loyal opposition, loyal to what remains of America and in opposition to those who hold within their political grasp the ability to utterly destroy her with inept policies and dreams of an unattainable utopia.
69 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 am
Blacklion, you’ve prided yourself multiple times in engaging in the false “logic” of argumentum ad numerum … the bandwagon appeal. It’s very similar to argumentum ad populum. You seem to think because a greater percentage of people believe a certain way then it must be so and it will always remain so. Wrong.
Also, in following your mostly vacuous “arguments” the last few months I’ve found you have made quite liberal use of the argumentum ad verecundium (an appeal to “authority” which mostly consisted of biased media opinions and that of whacked out left-wing bloggers), hid behind the invincible ignorance argument, tossed out more than a few red herrings which were judiciously followed by the evading the issue argument.
Not content with trying to obfuscate with non sequitors you double-down by refusing to stay on topic as one Scrappler after another destroys your original argument/statement. And when really backed into a corner you shamelessly resort to strawman arguments salted with your own special brew of argument by false premises.
And then you try to wear us out with endless repetitions of the same ol’ left-wing propaganda vis a vis argumentum ad nauseam.
You’ve been a busy man … or a consortium. No wonder you think you’re winning all the time, you’ve even confused yourself!
Look, I’m the first to admit I’ve often fallen prey to any number of these arguments at one time or another, but people like you absolutely refuse to admit that you’re dead wrong about anything because there’s some kind of herd mentality in liberals which innoculate them from ever entertaining any thought that they are simply heading down the wrong path … until finally they find themselves falling over a cliff. Well, I refuse to be a liberal lemming with visions of utopia dancing in my brain and I refuse to recklessly run off cliff because everyone else thinks its a good idea at the time.
The proof is in the pudding. Despite the economic and financial travails at the moment (no thanks to the liberal Democrats who have essentially cheerled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as they melted down on their watch), the economy is in far better shape now than it was when Jimmy Carter handed it to Ronald Reagan. And history is very clear that the American economy improved dramatically under Ronald Reagans presidency (despite Democrat whining to the contrary) within a matter of a couple of years and continued to grow dramatically until 2007. Sure there was a very small one year recession during Bush 41’s administration and an equally small three quarter recession at the end of Bill Clinton’s administration, but when all things are considered, America has prospered the last twenty-four years.
And now we have the most unaccomplished, inexperienced man ever elected to the office of the presidency who wants to “spread the wealth” and tax “rich people” during something approaching a recession. You Obamatons had better be right.
70 Mack // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:33 am
Our trolls here choose to ignore their actions when President Bush was elected. Al Gore we all remember, conceded the race in 2000, for about 45 minutes, then called the president back and recanted. After that we had about a month of Al Gore and his cronies trying to steal the election in Florida before the U.S. Supreme Court told the Florida Supreme Court that they had to follow their own constitution rather than changing the law to suit Al Gore.
So President Bush had a 45 minutes of honeymoon. We all know that ever since Al Gore recanted his concession we have had non-stop attacks on President Bush, by the left, some who are still deluded to think he was never legally elected.
With ACORN and the gang out trying to steal the senate seat in Minnesota for Al Franken, one of the loudest critics of President Bush I find it ironic. I woke this morning before 0400 am and thought about all the judges that were blocked by the Democrats in the Senate. President Bush nominated them, first Tom Dashle and the gang filibustered them, then McCain and the gang of 14 derailed them, then Harry Reid wouldn’t even consider confirmation, now Obama will fill the vacancies with liberals.
I thought about that and all of the other little ploys used shamelessly by the left while Billy Clinton was still in office and Al Gore was trying to steal the election claiming he had to form his own transition team. Yet the trolls have the gall to say they gave President Bush a chance?
“GIVE NO PLACE TO THE DEVIL.”
71 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:46 am
An excerpt from “The Catholic Connection”
Nov. 14, 2008 by Phyllis Schlafly
Obama admits he got his start as a community organizer in Chicago, saying it was “the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School.” He tries to downplay his connection with ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, but he was trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.
Saul Alinsky’s son Lee David Alinsky felt compelled to remedy Obama’s failure to give proper credit. In a letter to the Boston Globe in August after Obama’s open-stadium rally in Denver, the younger Alinsky wrote: “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.”
Saul Alinsky explained his community organizing tactics in his book “Rules for Radicals.” His game plan was to divide the community into the Haves and the Have Nots, make the Have Nots believe they are unjustly treated by the Haves, build resentment against the American social and economic system, use church congregations to mobilize street agitators, and lobby government for higher taxes and big-spending welfare programs in order to confiscate the wealth and power of the Haves and turn it over to the Have Nots.
Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, “the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom.”
Another Alinsky quote seems remarkably prophetic: “Ego must be so all-pervading that the personality of the organizer is contagious, that it converts the people from despair to defiance, creating a mass ego.”
72 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:53 am
Mack my friend, to that I say, AMEN!
The trolls are here for one reason, to stifle ANY and ALL dissent from their slanted views. I believe in redemption for people who are simply misguided, but please show me ANY posting here that fit that category!
Each and everyone is a hard core lib who delights in stirring up posters here. The left wing of this Country has every right to their opinion, and that is why I do NOT go to their websites to try to agrevate them.
As I have said before, some say here to listen to them because that is whatwe should do as Godly people. Sorry, but GOD tells me that these people do NOT want to change, and if you go back and look at their postings, they do not want a discussion, rather an arguement!
Compromise is why America has lost the values we once cherished, and even MORE compromise will only make us slide even farther.
I also, have failed to see this until now but, the mess America has found itself in is not Bush’s fault, or any other politician per say, but because we have turned our backs, as a Nation, on GOD!
I hope and pray that Michael Steele becomes the next chairman of the Republican party. THAT, gives me “hope”!!!
Until that changes, all the bailout money in the world, or King Obama giving us “hope”, will ALL in vain!
73 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:12 am
Tut Tut boober,
You know how Scott feels about personal attacks.
Crickets.
74 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:30 am
Darthmeister #69 – “the economy is in far better shape now than it was when Jimmy Carter handed it to Ronald Reagan.”
During the Carter Presidency I lived in St. Petersburg, Fla. Finding a job was next to impossible. In fact for many, it was impossible. I worked as night mgr. of a full line grocery store (a job created for me by the owners).
During the last year of Carter I must have averaged a dozen times a week having people come begging for a job. “I’ve been out of work for over three months – do you know anybody that’s hiring? – I’ll do anything.”
Enter Ronald Reagan – (you can’t turn an ocean liner around on a hairpin curve) two years later I averaged 3 or 4 personnel directors each week (from nearby factories) “Fred, do you know anybody that needs a job? Here’s my card. I’ll pay you a $25 finders fee for each one you send me. We need 20 new people, at least.”
What was the difference? Conservative vs Liberal was the only difference. The Reagan tax cuts freed up capital and the factories were able to expand to their Pre-Carter days. Cut-backs and lay-offs were history. No one came asking for a job.
I am of the opinion that under an Obama Administration, we will look back wistfully at the Carter Administration as “The Good Old Days”. Rampant inflation, double digit interest rates, etc., will once again become the norm. We may also learn how the Cuban people felt after Fidel seized power. Socialism/Communism is never a good life for those who are not in the power slots. (now, if you’re a clerk in a liberal judge’s court, you’ll probably do O.K. and wonder what all the fuss is about.)
75 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:35 am
BL31U Re#54: That’s one of the whiniest surrenders I’ve ever heard.
76 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:17 am
gafisher-
Have you noticed how Bush hijacked or stole elections, but thanks to Acorn we finally had a fair and legal election without fraud?
Have you noticed how if you don’t agree with boober and pals, you’re labeled as pessimistic?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they still can’t handle it.
77 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Agreed, mig. It’s amusing to see them fighting so hard to defend all the things The One hasn’t even done yet.
78 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:45 pm
This just in from Letty – good worthwhile stuff- (if the link posts O.K.
Click here: MyHeritage.org: SuppEort The Heritage Foundation:
First, the libs us for castigated their own country for retaliating for an attack on our soil,
NOW they want to disarm us.
Heaven help us, we’re going to need it. 8 min. video.
Letty
79 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Whoops – didn’t make it – if anybody wants to see it e-mail me and I’ll send it to you. – heirborn_ranger@sbcglobal.net
80 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Ronald Reagan 1964 speech for Goldwater – Possibly the greatest speech he ever gave in his lifetime (personal opinion only).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
81 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 6:56 pm
“… is it just that the NAACP is desperately trying to appear relevant in a country where “CP,” having just seen one of their number elected president, no longer need an “NA” for their advancement?” James Taranto
82 mig // Nov 15, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Oops, is that negative or positive?
83 reagankid // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Bravo.
The last person who wrote so many pages of memoir from so little experience was the author of “A Million Tiny Pieces.”
The liberal illuminati seem unable to recognize the weaknesses in their new president.
84 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Seems as though someone should have some sort of first accomplishment BEFORE being elected POTUS. Strange days indeed.
85 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:00 pm
JL3 – Would you say that it is possible for the Antichrist to be among us now, but has not yet began to build his resume?
I believe the Antichrist will around 30 – 33 when he comes on the scene. But that is not based on scripture, just my perhaps quirky way of thinking.
86 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:07 pm
a segment from the 1940 Bob Hope film The Ghost Breakers, synopsized thusly……..
Mary Carter (Paulette Goddard) inherits her family’s ancestral home, located on a
small island off Cuba, and, despite warnings and death threats, decides to take
possession of the reputedly haunted castle. She is joined by radio broadcaster Larry
Lawrence (Bob Hope) who, believing he has killed a mob gunsel, flees New York with
his butler, Alex. Once on the island the threesome enter the eerie castle and, after
viewing the ghost of one of Mary’s ancestors and fighting off a menacing zombie,
they find the key to the castle’s treasure but are interrupted by an all-too-human foe.
In the scene shown here, Larry Lawrence and Mary Carter inquire of Geoff Montgomery
(Richard Carlson) about the nature of creatures known as “zombies,” providing the set-up
for the most famous line in movie history….. a Bob Hope zinger:
Lawrence: “You live here?”
Montgomery: “Yes.”
Lawrence: “Then maybe you know what a zombie is”
Montgomery: “When a person dies and is buried, its seems there are certain voodoo
priests who … who have the power to bring him back to life.”
Carter: “How horrible!”
Montgomery: “It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You
see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not
knowing what they do, not caring.”
Lawrence: “You mean like Democrats?”
a segment from the 1940 Bob Hope film The Ghost Breakers, synopsized thusly……..
Mary Carter (Paulette Goddard) inherits her family’s ancestral home, located on a
small island off Cuba, and, despite warnings and death threats, decides to take
possession of the reputedly haunted castle. She is joined by radio broadcaster Larry
Lawrence (Bob Hope) who, believing he has killed a mob gunsel, flees New York with
his butler, Alex. Once on the island the threesome enter the eerie castle and, after
viewing the ghost of one of Mary’s ancestors and fighting off a menacing zombie,
they find the key to the castle’s treasure but are interrupted by an all-too-human foe.
In the scene shown here, Larry Lawrence and Mary Carter inquire of Geoff Montgomery
(Richard Carlson) about the nature of creatures known as “zombies,” providing the set-up
for the most famous line in movie history. a Bob Hope zinger:
Lawrence: “You live here?”
Montgomery: “Yes.”
Lawrence: “Then maybe you know what a zombie is”
Montgomery: “When a person dies and is buried, its seems there are certain voodoo
priests who … who have the power to bring him back to life.”
Carter: “How horrible!”
Montgomery: “It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You
see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not
knowing what they do, not caring.”
Lawrence: “You mean like Democrats?”
87 Fred Sinclair // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Oops I didn’t do it (I don’t think) the double post jut popped up. Sorry, – Waxless Fred
88 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Not that I suspect the people who need to read this will bother to do so, but just in case it could help somebody understand current events and our need to finish what we have started.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Thought/hl1081.cfm
89 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm
What if the sky really is falling!?!
I think I’ll remake a searching and fearless moral inventory of myself……just in case.
And pray without ceasing and sing, “My Country ’tis of Thee, Sweet Land of Liberty…..” Maybe even prostrate myself right here on my floor and Praise the Name of Almighty God more often.
90 Darthmeister // Nov 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Sea Ice Growing At Fastest Pace on Record
Gorsh, Obama really is good. He hasn’t even taken office yet and already he’s reversing the effects of Global Warming!
But then again maybe this is more “proof” of Global Warming.
91 gafisher // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 pm
“… already he’s reversing the effects of Global Warming!”
The Caliph of Cool.
92 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:29 pm
This just in…president elect Barack Obama is not white, he doesn’t look like the other presidents on all of our paper currency. Why wasn’t this reported before the election? All of America is so racist that a non-white couldn’t possibly win, right?
93 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:45 pm
So, in the movie O Brother, Where Art Thou? It is possible that Stokes was elected Governor?
94 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:47 pm
One of my favorite parts of the movie…
Blind Seer: You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek. But first… first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril. Mm-hmm. You shall see thangs, wonderful to tell. You shall see a… a cow… on the roof of a cotton house, ha. And, oh, so many startlements. I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the obstacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward. Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
95 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Well Rush said, Obama isn’t cool, he’s downright cold. There’s your proof boys.
96 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I filled the gas tank of my Mazda from naught to full today for $32.50, diesel is under $3 here. If we can maintain these prices, the economy might just pull out rather quickly. All the consumers really need is to be let up off of the ropes a while.
97 mindknumbed kid // Nov 15, 2008 at 10:59 pm
But we have only been recording the volume of sea ice since 1979. So we have one of the Gorites indicators of pending climatic doom’s basis only covering 29 years of recent history…
98 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:53 am
Thank you
99 Darthmeister // Nov 16, 2008 at 10:32 am
Just one more example of how Global Warmism is based on bad “science” and fraud.
Of course the Global Warming culties will crow how the Global Warming theory is “self-correcting”: “See, someone caught the mistake but all the other evidences are legitimate.” Yeah, right.
100 Fred Sinclair // Nov 16, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Sounds as if Crete was overloaded with their day’s version of today’s Liberals. So perhaps Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, B.O. and gang could be referred to as Cretians?
I doubt that they would pick up on it since the probability is that if any of them actually own a Bible it’s little more than a dust collecting ornament to lie on their coffee table.
When I lived on Crete (1957-1959) little if anything had changed from Paul’s day.
101 Mack // Nov 16, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I talked to a fellow who was a big Obama supporter. Key world being “was.” We all know he has yet to assume his office, but the Bill Ayers’ interview didn’t sit well with some of his less fanatic supporters. Seems they didn’t want to believe that he actually got his start in the living room of an unrepentant terrorist.
Oops. Already voted now were all stuck with them.
102 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 4:36 pm
That is the truth, they did not WANT to hear the facts, they wanted someone other than a republican Bush-like leader. Now they have what they didn’t want to know…can’t feel sorry for them.
Perhaps “Who’s Sorry Now” will be the theme song of the Obama administration.
103 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 5:16 pm
From Jeremiah chapter 18
7At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
8If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
9And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
10If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
11Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.
12And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
13Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ask ye now among the heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing.
14Will a man leave the snow of Lebanon which cometh from the rock of the field? or shall the cold flowing waters that come from another place be forsaken?
15Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;
Proverbs 29
1He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.
2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
9If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.
12If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
26Many seek the ruler’s favour; but every man’s judgment cometh from the LORD.
27An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.
104 Fred Sinclair // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:35 pm
e-mail just in from a fellow Scrappler I’m not sure how to answer.
“The paper said today, in horrified tones ,that gun sales had gone up 84% since the election. Can’t think why.”
I can’t think why either, given the situation, I would have opined that sales would surely be up by 200% or 250%, I have no idea why they are only up 84%.
I doubt they’ll go after guns real soon. Oh, they’ll probably make noise and threats and work for the inevitable Republican compromise.
Advance three steps, retreat one or two; advance three steps, retreat one or two. Slowly encroaching on freedoms is how they got to where they are now. Slow, but sure. I think they’ll go for the ammo first. If gun confiscation is too much for the citizens. They might follow Mexico’s lead from long, long ago. It is illegal in Mexico for a Citizen to own a firearm that fires any ammo currently in use by the Mexican Military and Police, it’s also illegal to own, have or possess any ammo currently being used by the M&P. Similar laws are in effect in Canada which results in the lowly .22 Long Rifle cartridge accounting for more deer taken each year in all of North America, than all other calibers combined.
If I were younger and not in this wheelchair, I’d begin stockpiling caches of 12 gage shotgun shells. A lot of it in 00, 000, and BB shot. There’s already (especially in Illinois of all places) bills to put severe restrictions on ammo purchase.
One law proposed (I never read whether or not it passed) would have required the would be purchaser of any ammo, show (certificate of ownership and/or bill of sale that he/she actually owned a firearm of that caliber (back door registration) with restrictions on the amount of ammo that could be purchased in any given month.
They managed to pass laws outlawing teflon coated alleged “Cop Killer” bullets.(because they could potentially slice through ‘bullet proof’ vests like cheese.) There is not ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of anyone EVER actually wearing such a vest being shot, injured or killed by such a bullet.
But I still can’t explain the puny 84% figure.
105 mig // Nov 16, 2008 at 6:52 pm
The only plan the Democrats can propose that would even remotely have me considering unification is the trial of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, and the rest of the bozos escaping the mortgage mess. Now we’re talking positive change.
Now that has to be a positive message.
106 mig // Nov 16, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hamas says its officials met with Obama aides before the U.S. Election but kept the meeting secret so as not to aid the McCain Campaign. You can find that story here
Jimmy Carter says Obama will waste no time in pursuing Middle East peace.
107 Newsman // Nov 16, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Too many of us here spend way too much energy generating negative thoughts and being highly critical of our differences..
We need to concentrate on thinking constructively and positively.
As a Democrat I can definitively say I do not see a Republican Administration as the end of the world or necessarily a negative event.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats know all the answers.
We can accomplish more by deliberately exploring those areas in which we have more in common then not. And then get together to see what we can do.
Our primary goal now is to restore our economy to some sense of normalcy.
I welcome whoever can come up with some constructive ways to accomplish this goal.
108 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 11:53 pm
I suggest to start off building a consensus that will bring solutions for positive change in America we acknowledge the Creator and seek his blessings.
109 mindknumbed kid // Nov 16, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Ephesians 5:6
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
110 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:01 am
Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of ‘Malignant Self Love,’ also believes, ‘Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.’
Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist.
Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Joe Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong IL, and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time.It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Maoist Castroists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by having ‘their man’ in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.
111 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:47 am
I dogpiled “pathological narcissist and there is a whole bunch of links. Some seemed funny and some made me want to cry. If this one posts, it’s a good one, otherwise dogpile it like I did – quite an education. – Pathological Narcissism –
A Dysfunction or a Blessing?
Pathological Narcissism is a dysfunction but it has postive sides as well
112 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:24 am
If there is ever to be any real change (that is, for the better), it can only come through the conservative agenda and I do not mean the same old Republican faces (many of whom I consider to be complicit in the current state of affairs).
There needs to be a 180-degree Motivational Shift away from self-aggrandizement. We need to save our country.
113 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 10:19 am
WoW!! This just in from Scott’s Victory Valley (Sno-Valley) Just reading a snip from it gave me a ‘rush’ – lets me trip back to when I was in the 10 year old mode. Lots of fun!
Chilly nights, warmed by the campfire. S’mores and hot chocolate. Boots crunching along a woodland path. Deer and turkeys running for cover. Songs of joy and thrilling Bible times. Slipping and sliding on snow or ice. Climbing the rock wall, zipping around Victory Hall on roller blades or skates. Games, games and more games. Songs, songs and more songs. Good food and plenty of it. Memories and friends that last a lifetime.
I sincerely thank you Mr. Ott – You, your family and your ‘extended’ family (the kids) and the valley are in my prayers.
114 mig // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:25 am
the Right needs …
better information organization, which will help a movement coalesce around …
the organizing agenda, out of which flows …
the storyline/narrative, which motivates …
the grassroots/netroots to get engaged, mobilized, and donating, all of which is channeled effectively by …
movement infrastructure, both online and offline.
115 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:04 pm
mkk Re#96: “All the consumers really need is to be let up off of the ropes a while.”
Too late. We’ve traded them in for chains.
116 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Going down with the ship?
“GOP aspirants face the possibility of a nightmare scenario: taking the helm of a party so weighed down by doctrinaire hard-liners and hectoring moralists that no one, especially an RNC chair, will be able to change course and avoid a tsunami of culturally disinhibited.
The continuing decimation of the GOP’s moderate wing in the House and Senate – “where do you find road-kill? In the middle of the road” – has left the party’s House and Senate ranks dominated by Christian conservatives and free market zealots — at a time of economic crisis brought about by an under-regulated financial sector run amok. Various types of conservative hardliners are too firmly entrenched in the GOP to give way so easily, and at the moment, none of their conservatisms is going to sell to the American public.”
117 boberinyetagain // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm
For what it’s worth…Obama’s record so far…
Voted for the “General Bailout”…strike one
Leaning towards “Auto Bailout…stike two
Then again a vote for the “other side” would have produced the same 2 strikes so…6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other so far…
We will see…
118 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Either way this goes, it appears it’s going to be a dark and dreary Holiday Season for Michiganders. Did I hear correctly that they were forcasting a possible foot of lake affect snow? Man, you gotta feel for those people.
119 BlackLion31U // Nov 17, 2008 at 12:51 pm
To top off the gloomy economic forecast, it doesn’t look like the Wolverines have a chance in heck of beating Ohio State. Now that STINKS!
Bring back Bo and Woody!
120 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Lake effect snow is Michigan’s good news, BL31U. It brings tens of thousands of winter sports enthusiasts here every year, a sizable chunk of what’s left of our economy.
121 Hawkeye // Nov 17, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Well, here we go…
Obama’s War On Conservative Talk Radio
122 MajorDomo // Nov 17, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Newsman: “Our primary goal now is to restore our economy to some sense of normalcy.”
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Here’s a news item for you: You can’t expect our economy to go back to “normalcy” when socialist policies are being imposed in place of free-enterprise capitalism. Maybe if we could re-do the election….
123 mig // Nov 17, 2008 at 2:30 pm
BL3 – going down with the ship. Oh how very negative of you. You would like us to roll up and die, it would make it so easy for you. Victory does not mean slaughter. Don’t flatter yourself. The vote was 52%, not a landslide at all so keep wishing for the death of us, it ain’t happening.
Positive enough for you bobby? It should take me out of the running of Black Cloud Most Likely To Rain on Your Parade.
124 gafisher // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Citing a precedent he set in each previous elective office, President-Elect Barack Obama has begun preparations to resign the Presidency after five and one-half months to oversee construction of his Presidential Museum and Library and to begin work on the next in his series of best-selling memoirs.
Asked about the advance decision to turn the reins of government over to his Vice President-Elect after a seemingly arbitrary period, Obama assured reporters the timing had absolutely no significance.
125 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Disclaimer:
I remember those days (my late-teens, I guess) from the perspective of Columbus OH; I have Buckeye DNA in my mutant [but humble] string of chromosomes; I named my children Scarlet and Gray.
126 boberinyetagain // Nov 17, 2008 at 3:25 pm
major…”socialist policies are being imposed in place of free-enterprise capitalism”
Did Obama do that? He’s an amazing guy, not even in office and already he’s bailed out AIG and bought many of the larger banks.
What’s that you say? He’s not in office, he didn’t do those things? I wonder who did?
127 Fred Sinclair // Nov 17, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I’ve been reading about a lot of lawsuits demanding proof of B.O.’s having met the Constitutional requirements for the job. It’s looking more and more like a fait accompli (a thing that has already happened or been decided before those affected hear about it, leaving them with no option but to accept) a/k/a “Kangaroo Court”. I think it’s a tempest in a teapot, and as a result of my experience, I’m quite suspicious and probably cynical to boot.
If you, somehow by magic, had in your hands an “authenticated” original birth certificate proving that B.O. was actually born in Kenya, the MSM would make Governor Sarah Palin and Joe “The Plumber’s harassment smears look like a cakewalk. You would be vilified as the resurrection of the devil himself. They would go after you, your family and friends with the ferocity of an attack trained doberman/rottweilier. Then they would arrange for a Clinton appointed Federal Judge to have you declared mentally deranged and as is rumored to have really happened with Marylin Monroe you might disappear into the depths of an Alaskan Mental Hospital for the criminally insane. Or if that was too much trouble, you’d simply suffer an unfortunate accident. The MSM would probably ‘with great glee’ report that you in your remorse for the HOAX you attempted against their Saviour and Messiah you took the easy way out by “accidently” hanging yourself.
You can be pretty confident that the Birth Certificate would be hooted down in derision as being a genuine, faux, imitation “original”. And B.O. would continue to sit on his ‘throne’ as a modern day King Ahab, exercising with all the power of his Congress to out Ahab, Ahab. Striving valiantly to make King Ahab look like a sissy by comparison. (he was no sissy – just the man that God said was more evil than all the Kings that reigned before him. And that’s a great big bunch of bad.)
1Kings 16:30 And Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD above all that were before him.
1Kings 16:33 And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him.
Fortunately we can be confident that God is on the only real throne, in Heaven. ["This world is not my home, I'm just passing through..."] Soon enough we will shrug off the mortal coils of this world and will be able to meet Him, face to face. That will be glory – more than enough for this sinner, saved by God’s Grace. (though I’m in no hurry to leave before God’s plan for me is finished.)
128 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:21 pm
If I may ask a favor of our Scrappleface community, please vote for a particular contender at CNN’s Heroes of 2008.
Our Pennsylvania chapter of Delta Kappa Gamma, an international organization of women teacher-leaders, has designated “Ethiopia Reads” as our year’s project.
Go to http://heroes.cnn.com/default.as and vote for Yohannes Gebregeorgis, the founder of the program. You may vote as many times as you choose up to November 20.
Yohannes’s personal story is fascinating as it traces his interest in promoting literacy. The lending libraries that he has developed consist of carts of books led by donkeys in order to spread the gift of reading to the impoverished in his native country.
The CNN Hero of the Year will receive $100,000 for his/her cause. Winning this award provides a hand-on opportunity to make lives better and bypass the corruption that often infiltrates government aid programs.
Thanks ahead of time, and spread the good work
129 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:43 pm
The way that the media are trumpeting Obamao’s pronouncements, recommendations, and plans, one would think that he already shares a co-presidency with George Bush. (Did I miss an inauguration somehow? By what authority does his word have more weight?)
In recalling the months after President Bush’s inauguration, I note that there were repeated obstructions in approving his cabinet members. The Gore sour-apples crew did everything that it could to delay a smooth transition.
On the other hand, George Bush (like the adult that he is) has extended every effort to ease the transition to the executive for Obamao.
How odd that neither the media nor Obamao are gracious in acknowledging this statesmanship.
One other point needs to be made about when our economy started going south. If you check the economic figures, when the Dems took control of Congress, especially the purse-strings of the House in 2006, a lot of negative factors arose: fuel prices, food, prices, and unemployment.
Too many Dem figures are connected to the Fannie/Freddie boondoggle, the CRA and ACORN malfeasance, and credit-banking collapse. Chuck Schumer’s careless mouth led to the run on and collapse of the California-based bank (the name of which escapes me right now), Lehman Brothers and other banks collapsed shortly thereafter.
I am not supportive of nationalizing big sectors of our economy. More people than not suffer under such systems, history shows.
130 Pickerhead :: Pickings from the Webvine ::November 17, 2008 // Nov 17, 2008 at 6:54 pm
[...] Scrappleface says Obama resigned from Senate so he could write a new memoir. [...]
131 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Heh! I finish my waffle, and everyone else disappears.
My local newspaper ran an editorial cartoon not long ago, featuring two front page news items. In one newspaper, the headline is “Bush Wins: 51%– Country Divided”. The other headline is “Obama Wins: 52%– Country United”. Go figure…
I guess that the only “unity” we are seeing is a resurrection of Clintonistas in a marriage of convenience with partisan, Chicago-style thugs.
Here is an example of Obamao’s questionable judgment in his selection of White House counsel, a criminal lawyer of some high-profile anti-American clients. Cronies and political payback make for strange bedfellows. Why this fellow even prosecuted an FBI agent who once built a case against the Weather Underground.
The Audacity of Unethical Behavior: Or How I Rewarded Those Who Put Me into Power by Barack Obama, snake charmer extraordinaire…
132 mindknumbed kid // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:39 pm
It just seems to me that getting from here to the “end times” requires things to go downhill in a big way. What better than an Obama “reign” to begin the descent? As long as there is a healthy America that is willing to thwart evil around the globe I cannot see the end times coming about. the pressures to continually “give in” and “go along” have been effective enough to bring us to the brink of a “new America” and it is nothing like what we had when we accepted God’s role in maintaining our national morality.
We can roll up our sleeves and work together until Hell freezes over (and not the one in Michigan) and without returning to the God that causes nations to prosper it is all just exercises in futility. Man always thinks more highly of himself than humanity warrants.
From John chapter 15:
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
“Without me ye can do nothing”, but that can’t mean what it says, we just elected Barack Obama as our president, he will save us all!
133 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Try this CNN link to vote for Yohannes as a hero of 2008: http://heroes.cnn.com/default.asp
If it doesn’t work, try typing the address into your browser, the method that I used to access it.
134 Newsman // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:21 pm
onlineanalyst – Both Obamas have publically acknowledged the most gracious manner that George and Laura have both exhibited towards the transition !
135 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm
The Onion sums up the effects of post-election mesmerism well.
136 onlineanalyst // Nov 17, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Newsman, are you Chris Matthews?
137 DrivebyMeteor // Nov 17, 2008 at 10:09 pm
“Anyone who believes you can’t change history has never tried to write his memoirs.†~ David Ben-Gurion
138 MajorDomo // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Bober:
What’s that you say? Your boy’s a liar? He isn’t going to implement his socialist policies like he said he would, not going to redistribute wealth?
How awful! Maybe you should be complaining to him, not me.
139 everthink // Nov 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Whatever, y’all. It’s just more 62 days and a wake up. So do enjoy this paradise of yours while you may.
It is the end of an error.
ET
140 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:05 am
Gafisher #120,
I guess your right. Heck you may even get lucky and have Todd show up with one of his hopped up snow mobiles and draw all kinds of media to the area.
I’ll pass on the sub-freezing though no matter how sportsman like.
141 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:10 am
OLA #136,
Actually I think he is Sean Hannity.
j/k Newsman, that’s almost like calling you the devil.
142 BlackLion31U // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:11 am
now that I think about it, it is calling you the devil. Sorry man.
143 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 9:47 am
Obama’s victory was apparently based on this kind of pathetic ignorance.
I’m sure there are the occasional Republican/conservative voters who are truly as uninformed and/or as dumb as a box of rocks like these people, but YouTube has any number of video surveys showing Obamatons in general having no clue whatsoever about real politics.
And what’s really scary these people appear to be intelligent, middle-class voters. I think we can thank the liberal education system and the national socialist media for dumbing the American people down like this.
Let’s see, liberal Democrats control our public educational system, universities, unions, large cities, the news media, the “popular” media, Hollywood, most state legislatures, both houses of the U.S. Congress, now the Presidency and pretty soon SCOTUS. How anyone on the other side of the aisle thinks they are getting a proper and diverse view of reality is beyond me since they clearly live in an echo chamber.
And it’s pretty apparent these people in the video are a product of this liberal Democrat stupidity/ignorance. Well, the communists did say they would cause America to fall from within.
A must see interview of a Soviet expert on propaganda who covers the four points of communists ideological subversion. It’s gets very interesting at 10:40 minutes into interview.
144 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 9:53 am
Soviet expert interview here.
Keep in mind this interview was made over 24 years ago. He’s speaking about the subversive policies and principles of international communism/socialism, not necessarily about Soviet communism alone. As he rightly noted, it will be Americans “doing it” to Americans in their attempt to bring about their socialist utopia.
145 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 10:08 am
Similarly … How the wacademic left helped elect Obama.
Until the American people are forced to confront the fact that our educational institutions have, for the large part, been turned into propaganda mills by American leftists … get ready to greet the new People’s Republik of Amerika.
146 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 10:11 am
End of an error?
You leaving us, troll? I guess the rumors are true, Obama has been vetting you for his court jester.
147 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:12 am
Bill Ayers’ positive review of a fellow Marxist’s tract entitled, “Notes From A Self-Realizing, Sensuous, Species-Being (I Think)”.
Mooooooonbat! These are the kind of people who stand behind if not propel fellow “species-beings” like Barack Hussein Obama.
BTW, forget waterboarding. If we can put garbage like this in the hands of Islamic terrorists, they’ll go insane.
148 Newsman // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:52 am
Onlineanalyst – Nope !
As for some of the education views expressed here, I do find myself in general agreement.
I am, and have been very concerned that our public educational system is not meeting our needs.
I am a staunch advocate of going back to just teaching the basics, such as Math,Geography,History, etc.
Never mind this bulldung Social Studies crapola!
If you simple teach the basics then the graduating student is amply equipped to get on with a workable life, be it go to college, get technical training, be a super salesman, whatever.
I do not believe in tossing religion or sex into the public education mix. I also do not advocate homosexualism/lesbianism being taught in our public schools as being a ‘normal way of life’. The basic purpose of all life is to procreate to keep the species alive and well.
In my view sex education is a private family issue, not the business of public government. No free condoms being distributed in our school systems. Seems to me that condones the issue.
I also don’t believe in these people who advocate that cities/towns can’t put up normal christmas displays that feature a christian view.
I have no objection at all to the ten commandments being featured on public buildings. After all, the basic moral structure of our country has its foundation in these commandments. They are good decent rules to guide one’s life by, no matter what your religious views may be !
149 onlineanalyst // Nov 18, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Newsman: You are obviously NOT Chris Matthews, considering the conservative/libertarian views you expressed at 11:52 am. Congratulations on distinguishing yourself from what passes as journalism in our popular media.
Informed citizens, the type that our Founding Fathers envisioned in forming our representative republic, may be a legacy of our past. Our schools have become indoctrination centers of cooperative learning of mush. Our news sources are woefully incurious and shabbily informed, lazy in producing no more than boilerplate narrative, and merely another avenue of entertainment. Too often interviewers ask inane questions, rarely follow up substantively on issues, and barely disguise their own political agendas.
I was goint to link to the video that Darthmeister posted at #143. It was going viral late last evening for good reason. Hotair has also posted it this morning; the comments at the site are telling.
BTW BL31U: Sean Hannity is not a journalist, nor has he ever claimed to be one. He is an opinion commentator who informs the public of information that they would never otherwise learn from the mainstream. (Consider what he shared about Obama’s history and relationship with Wright, Ayers, Rezko etal.) I’ll listen to Hannity in my car if his broadcast is on at the time I am commuting, but I am aware that too often I am ahead of him on the news curve.
Hannity, like Rush Limbaugh, who has a mind like a steel trap, merely confirm what I have already deduced for myself regarding conservative principles and a suspicion/disdain for a media that place propaganda, shallow sourcing, entertainment, weak programming of substanceless news as the filler of a time slot in the television’s wasteland.
150 onlineanalyst // Nov 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Er, “confirms” in the last paragraph. Proofreading is my friend.
151 gafisher // Nov 18, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Newsman Re#148: “… our public educational system is not meeting our needs.”
Certainly not since John Dewey got involved, though the cancer took time to metastasize.
152 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Actually Newsman sounds more like Rusty Humphries who is on in the late evening on talk radio.
His show comes on at 10 p.m. This is a much better alternative to Jay Leno or that nasty local news at ten.
If you can’t find him on your AM dial you can listen online on our local airwaves
http://www.640whlo.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?
153 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Prayer Request:
A friend named Dan sat beside me Sunday night at our local Wendy’s and we each feasted on a Wendy’s Double Burger. Last night Dan went to the hospital and fortunately (our local hospital is one of the places in Gillette you need to avoid) was transferred to a hospital in Casper where he underwent surgery to repair a brain aneurysm today just before noon local time. I have not heard anything since this morning. I would appreciate your prayers for Dan, his wife Shirley, and his family.
154 Darthmeister // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Newsman #148 … at least we agree on something. I give you an A+ on your post. Our experiment with government-funded liberal establishments of mass education, further compounded by the iron grip of the various national and state-level teachers’ unions, have been a dismal failure. Americans are getting dumbed down big time and Zogby’s recent video poll demonstrates this reality.
Obamanation: The Beginning of an Error?
For the next four years I want to be as fair as I can be. Where progress is actually made, I will give credit where credit is due, but where the liberal Democrats’ agenda is an abysmal failure, no quarter from me.
As I’ve said before, conservatives don’t need to lie nor do we have to embellish the failures of an Obama administration. Unless this guy is really messiah, he’ll not only find himself breaking one promise after another about substantive and positive “change”, but he’ll certainly find there are simply certain things that can’t be changed by wishful thinking or the judicious application of socialist political theory. But during his campaign, Mr. Obama had raised the bar, as well as people’s hopes, pretty high. If he fails he will only have himself and his ideology to blame. Unfortunately, the kind of failure that may happen will make us all the poorer and militarily weaker. Never has such an unaccomplished and inexperienced person ever been elected to the office of the presidency … not even Herbert Hoover or Woodrow Wilson.
May God save this nation from the folly of ill-informed Americans.
155 MajorDomo // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Dan has mine!
156 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Thank you.
157 Fred Sinclair // Nov 18, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I believe it was Mark Twain who, having been appraised of his obituary being in the newspaper commented, “reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”
In the same vein perhaps in all open honesty B.O. could comment, “reports of my innocence have been greatly exaggerated.” That would represent actually bring truth to politics.
While B.O. may have a ‘hot shot’ defense lawyer on retainer to represent him regarding earthly matters, I can relax, comfortably content in knowing that on judgement day, I will be represented by the one true intercessor, Jesus the Son of God. Now that is representation at it’s highest level.
Not knowing whether or not B.O. is one of God’s elect, I can only hope that before his time comes he will become a “born again” Christian. (John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.)
News of his conversion would reverberate around the world announcing his commitment and dedication to a new way of life (Rom. 6:4) and in accordance with what God said by way of James (the brother of Jesus) on international television, B.O. made public confession of his faults (sins). (James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.) that would not only affect our current economic situation but also the economies of every nation on earth.
Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
158 mindknumbed kid // Nov 18, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I think that is the missing link. We missunderestimate the complete uninformedness of the majority of voters. You can only blame so much on the dismal educational system, and a bit more on the media. But in this era of information availability it is the citizen’s responsibility to get the information required to make an informed choice. Why on earth are there so many people going to the polls to vote when they do not have a clue as to who is doing what and why? The right to vote carries the obligation to know, and if you know you should be engaged, to some extent, in issues that affect you and your community. I think we should have to pass a civics exam and have a valid photo ID before we can step into a booth and cast a vote, we have cheapened our system of government by giving ignorance a voice. This is little more than a popularity contest where each contestant tries to outdo the other with promises of giveaways.
159 mig // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:08 pm
from Letty:
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
160 mig // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:13 pm
#131 OLA
— Inside Washington, February 2, 2007.
Moderator Gordon Peterson: “Are the mainstream media bashing the President unfairly?”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: “Well, our job is to bash the President. That’s what we do.”
— MSNBC’s Morning Joe, November 6.
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “You know what? I want to do everything I can to make this thing work, this new presidency work, and I think that-”
Host Joe Scarborough: “Is that your job? You just talked about being a journalist.”
Matthews: “Yeah, it is my job. My job is to help this country….This country needs a successful presidency more than anything right now.”
161 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Newsman Re#148: I too, agree with everything you say in your post. At least there are things we can agree upon!
162 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 18, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I guess I should have said, I agree with MOST of your post. I think you can figure out the one thing I do not agree with.
163 mindknumbed kid // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:07 am
Good news, Dan is out of surgery. I’m assuming it went OK.
164 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:32 am
Mig Re:159
I was going to post that very thing. I just heard John Ziegler being interviewed on Rusty Humphries. If that isn’t enough to scare you I don’t know what is.
He is creating a documentary on the Obama dream (?). Again, if you Scrapplers haven’t seen this, you would do good to watch it.
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
again
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
165 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:25 am
Jim Jones’ Kool-Aid Was The Same as the Left’s
Yet one more documentary/commentary making the point.
166 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:31 am
mig, the double-standard of the national socialist media has never been so apparent. On the one hand the vast majority of the press apparatus has unfairly bashed the Bush Administration with little more than Democrat talking points, innuendo, spin, and half-truths, and now it wants to facilitate the Obamessiah Administration because it would be “good for the country”. Oy vey!
It’s amazing what unprofessional journalist Obamatons can rationalize, particularly when they go down the slippery slope of rank partisanship.
Of course the biggest joke is Matthews actually being considered as a “journalist”. Buwahahahaha.
167 Darthmeister // Nov 19, 2008 at 10:49 am
Headlines from sycophantic media during Obama Administration:
10% Unemployment: Gives Workforce Much Needed Time To Train For New, Higher-Paying Jobs
Los Angeles Hit With Dirty Bomb: So Far Death Toll Is Less Than 911 Under Bush
Influx of Terrorists Proves Their Hatred of America Is Diminishing
Full Constitutional Rights According to Islamic Fundamentalists: Bin Laden to Receive Welfare In Abstentia
Ford Goes Belly Up: Silver Lining, More Business for GM and Chrysler
Dow Remains at 6500: Demonstrates the Stability Inherent in New Socialist Economy
FISA: Being Used Only For National Good by Obama Administration
Conservatives Who Mocked President and Policies Will Get Justice Under New Hate Crimes Legislation
Presidential Worship Hours Are Being Extended As Nation Prospers
Republican Party Re-designated Terrorist Cell by Obama AG
168 Fred Sinclair // Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 pm
mkk #163 – Good news indeed! – Keep us posted on Dan’s progress, there’s a bunch of us folk praying for his success.
On a lighter note – today is Mickey’s birthday! He turned 80 today!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MICKEY MOUSE!!!
169 boberinyetagain // Nov 19, 2008 at 3:21 pm
time for recipes?
170 everthink // Nov 19, 2008 at 4:33 pm
The “Frogwalk” begins!
Cheney, Gonzales indicted for alleged prisoner abuse
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/cheney.gonzales.indicted/index.html?iref=newssearch
ET
171 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 19, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Change. Ha.
172 RedPepper // Nov 19, 2008 at 7:36 pm
JL3 #171: Yes, indeed, JL3!
Change!
Change in the Cabinet, for starters!
Clinton
Hacks
Are
Now
Getting
Everything!
173 Fred Sinclair // Nov 19, 2008 at 9:31 pm
RP #172 Change is good. Little pennies can grow up to become big dollars. Personally, I keep my change in the cabinet. If anybody’s running short look in the sugar bowl. Lots of nickels, dimes and quarters, maybe even a couple of half-dollars?
Most folks don’t like change. I’ve heard that the only people really interested in change is wet babies.
We can’t say that we weren’t warned. I’ve read that someone (some say Kruchev) made a statement that America would not be “taken” by military force but by feeding bits and pieces of socialism, over time and eventually the people will vote Socialism in as their preferred form of government.
Or in the words of Robert A. Heinlein, “When the people learn that they can vote themselves ‘cake and champagne’ and force you to pay for it, they will.”[Time enough For Love"]
The people of Cuba wanted ‘change’ and Castro gave it to them. People in Venezuela wanted ‘change’ and Chavez gave it to them.
Strangely enough, the people wanting ‘change’ don’t appear to be as happy as they thought they would be. Given the chance, I think they would call for a “do-over”. Unfortunately “do-overs” are out and now, having made their bed and they have to lie in it.
174 mindknumbed kid // Nov 19, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Thank you for praying, Dan is doing very well. He may even be released from the hospital as early as tomorrow. The Lord is good. They say that everyone that comes into his room is being told about the Lord, the nurses are said to be avoiding his room as much as possible. Continue to pray.
175 everthink // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:00 am
“Strangely enough, the people wanting ‘change’ don’t appear to be as happy as they thought they would be. Given the chance, I think they would call for a “do-overâ€.”
What planet do you live on?
Maybe you’re listening to Rush too much. Maybe if you’d stay away from Fox for while. Maybe if you just wait til you see the crowds on the Mall next January 20th, you’ll see the truth for once.
The people are just waiting for your presididiot to get out of the way!
ET
176 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 3:00 am
Picked up from comments section @ Info.com: (adapted)
According to the Bible, those who will be soon attacking Israel will cause the end of humanity… for those who attack her… and not for those who don’t. According to the Bible, it’s God who will wipe them out, in a way that everyone will know who did it, Since 98 percent of what the Bible said would happen has already happened, and the signs He said to look for are here, the well… going to be very soon, you should be happy and thank God that you and He are on the same side.
177 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:29 am
1) Illegal immigrants
Increasing T.V. leftist programming like “Wll & Grace” and “The Ellen DeGeneres (deGenerate?) Show”
2) Oriental’s purchase of American land and buildings
3) Uncapped growing Islamic enclaves with attendant “demands”
4) Socialist’s infiltration of our Government (moles)
5) Marxist’s infiltration of our schools
6) Socialist’s infiltration of our media
7) Socialist’s infiltration of our entertainment outlets
9) algore & his “Manmade Global Warming” hoax a/k/a “The Greening Of America”
10) Soon to be “President Elect” Barack H. Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and so many, many others of their ilk.
Heb. 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Each and every one of these constitute a serious threat to freedom aka America.
I recall reading somewhere in the Old Testament (2 Kings I think) about Elisha being surrounded by a fearsome ring of ‘bad guys’ who had their blitzkrieg ( literally ‘lightning war.’) all planned out. His servant saw no way out, but Elisha told him that there is more that stand on our side than theirs. He then prayed that God would open his eyes so that he could see too. God opened the young man’s eyes and he could see a whole army of protection surrounding Elisha.
Likewise, more recently in the June War, aka “The 6 day War”, Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, (with major assistance from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria. Beset by vastly superior armies, little Israel smacked the stuffings out of the whole bunch of them, much to their chagrin, (or distress and embarrassment at having failed and been humiliated) I don’t think there were very many who disputed that God had a major hand in that incredible upset.
Now it’s America that’s on the line and with ten enemies “compassing us about” I believe prayer is our most effective weapon against these forces of evil aka “The absence of God”. Our God is a God who specializes in miracles and surely we are in need of one now.
Of course we have no one to blame but ourselves. We painted ourselves into this corner by the simple reality that we did nothing and “The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to triumph Is for Good Men to do Nothing. (The quote is from Edmund Burke, often regarded as the father of Anglo-American conservatism.)
178 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:42 am
Even if you don’t read the accompanying article, the graphic makes it worth a click.
179 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:38 am
Jodi Miller of News Busters
“The recent election showed that those identifying themselves as Conservatives greatly outnumbered those identifying themselves as Liberals….. the numbers of Conservatives is expected to rise sharply, just as soon as Obama unveils his new tax plan.”
180 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:52 am
My new T from “Conservative “T’s” (I love it!)
BUREAU OF
ALCOHOL,
TOBACCO and
FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
181 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:37 am
Down to 42 seats with two still at risk, Senate Republicans are in a deep funk. Some are in denial. Some want a return to conservative principles. Some want to cut deals. Some want more filibusters.
Others want to jump out a window — but they’re afraid they’d screw that up, too.
“We probably wouldn’t die,†a Republican Senate aide joked Wednesday. “We’d just lie there, hurt and suffering, which is not too much different from where we are now.â€
Now THAT is funny.
Fred, you talkin to yourself again?
182 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:57 am
“It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.”
Everybody dance!
183 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:58 am
Once again from Jodi Miller of News Busters
Barack Obama is working on his new and third book, “The Idiot’s Complete Guide To Socialism”.
184 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Fred,
Obama will never compete. George has the market covered on “The Idiot’s Complete Guides”. I hear publishers are avoiding George like tha plague so he won’t be able to get any more out for a while but I’m sure he covers Socialism in his “Idiots guide To Becoming President”.
185 boberinyetagain // Nov 20, 2008 at 1:40 pm
DOH!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Five of six Algerians must be released after nearly seven years of captivity at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, a federal judge ruled on Thursday in a setback for the Bush administration
Gosh, we are SO sorry about that. Can we give you a lift somewhere?
Do they get some “lovely parting gifts” at least?
What’s 7 years in the grand scheme of things? Sheesh!
186 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 20, 2008 at 2:42 pm
187 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 3:39 pm
JL3,
I don’t understand your point. Is there any question here that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights?
188 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Maybe you were interpreting this to support the argument against Socialism?
If that’s the case, that wasn’t what President Kennedy was saying at all. He was referring to the Declaration Of Independence:
â€We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”..
â€But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.â€
And so, we welcome President Elect Barack Obama!
189 BlackLion31U // Nov 20, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Interesting that the Founding Fathers would chose this wording:
“..that they are endowed by THEIR Creator with certain unalienable rights..”
I wonder why they didn’t say THE Creator?
190 Fred Sinclair // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:19 pm
“President Elect” Obama: Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! & a Ho, Ho, Ho – Oops – sorry ’bout that, I forgot, only Santa and pimps are allowed to use those last three. Well Tom Adkins piece about President Elect Obama is a hoot. really made my day! The election is far from from over. I hear on the radio people talking about “President Elect” Obama. Obama is not the “President Elect”!! Barring an overturn and reversal of the election, relating to the myriad of lawsuits – yet to be settled, relating to his real citizenship; the popular vote on Nov. 4th is merely an election to elect Electors.
The Electoral vote in December might make Obama the Presidential Elect (and in all probability may do just that) we’ll have to wait until Decmber15th (the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December) .
The lawsuit in California is the biggie! If (as well may be the case) Obama does not produce an original validated Birth Certificate then the State’s 55 Electoral votes will be blocked. The Electoral College elects the President – not the Popular vote. Kerry actually won the popular vote in ‘04 – The Electoral College elected Bush.
McCain, having conceded the election to Obama will be irrelevant. We will not know who the new President Elect is until the Electoral College formally cast their votes this upcoming December 15th.
Or in the famous words from the great Yogi Berra “It Ain’t Over ‘Til It’s Over”
191 onlineanalyst // Nov 20, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Yes, indeedy, the Mall and Pennsylvania Avenue will be packed to the gills with folks driven to the occasion by ACORN buses filled with slackers, those permanently on the dole, Marxist/Maoist college professors, Hollywood celebrity whores, and those of such ilk. It’s not as if these people have productive jobs or anything to keep them from attending.
Deceased voters and those who claimed park benches as their “residences” have place of honor on the top of the bus. The tombstones will keep them from falling off (the wagon, so to speak).
Will the dais for the swearing-in feature the once-sacred styrofoam Greek columns? (Recycling is the “green” thing to do!)
In these pressing economic times, how much will this lollapalooza cost? What will Michelle wear, and how much will she have spent on her fashion statements? Chris Matthews inists on doing the color commentary for this event…if he can only get the thrill out of his leg in time.
Good times, good times…
I saw my first “Obama is not MY president” bumper sticker on a car in a grocery parking lot today.
192 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:40 pm
In Times Like These
Words and Music by Ruth Caye Jones
In times like these you need a Savior
In times like these you need an anchor;
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
In times like these you need the Bible,
In times like these O be not idle;
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
In times like these I have a Savior,
In times like these I have an anchor;
I’m very sure, I’m very sure
My anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
Chorus
This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the One;
This Rock is Jesus, the only One!
Be very sure, be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock!
193 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 8:54 pm
“Their Creator” is more personal than “the Creator”. Either way it is the same God.
Funny how the left views the earth as being so delicate and fragile, we must care for it in just the right manner or it will die. Yet when it comes to our nation they are willing to try all kinds of unproven ideas and many that have been proven to fail is fair game too. I believe that we are going to see the end of capitalism within the first two years of Obama’s reign. I hope that I will be proven wrong though, I’ll welcome anyone who comes back in a couple of years and reproves that statement. I have my anchor, no worries here. What about you?
194 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:23 pm
A person could have a little fun with that song and the “messiah”…
195 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Not that I expect anything to come from the lawsuits, but if per say it is determined that Obama is not legally qualified then do we settle for Biden, or file suit against the DNC for election fraud for permitting a person not legally entitled to be POTUS to have been the nominee? Could it be the first do-over election for POTUS in history?
196 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:35 pm
The entire issue should have been put to bed long before now, the DNC has no one to blame but themselves for everything that is going on with these lawsuits now. I think when there is reasonable doubt our right to know should have been given top consideration in the matter. To the Obamatons this is most likely seen as being more sour grapes, but what about the law? Should the law be honored?
197 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Humm…Alinski, Ayers, Oprah, O’Donnell, Obama? Is there something about names that begin with vowels? Just wondering…
198 mindknumbed kid // Nov 20, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Oops! – Ott. Of course there are always exceptions, and that one is truly exceptional!
199 Darthmeister // Nov 20, 2008 at 10:51 pm
One man’s terrorist is another man’s liberal.
al Franken is challenging this vote in Minnesota! Boy, whatever happened to “make every vote count”, Dems?
200 gafisher // Nov 20, 2008 at 11:10 pm
BL31U Re#188: “… to provide new guards for their future security.â€
And so, we welcome President Elect Barack Obama!”
Oh, you’re gonna have such a hangover when the euphoria wears off!
201 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:00 am
Fred #190,
Ya, dream on buddy, we tried that in 2000. Your people set the precedent. It didn’t work then. It has less of a chance of working now thanks to the neo-cons.
202 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:11 am
mindknumbed kid #193
No it is NOT partner. In that one word the founding fathers recognized the freedom of religion. That each person has the freedom to worship their own God. Not necessarily the God that the founders personally believed in, or the God commonly recognized in Great Britain. And also in a way admitted the importance of the separation of church and state.
You are always healthy in my opinion to study the word for your own personal salvation. However, you cross over into dangerous territory when you try to apply that to earthly governments.
Try again Grasshopper.
203 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:14 am
Darth,
You’re listening to too much of entertainer Hannity dude.
204 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:21 am
gafisher #188,
No euphoria. Just relief. Those of us who voted against George W. Bush have had symptoms worse than a hangover for almost 8 years. It will be a pleasurable change when we don’t have to grit our teeth ever time we see the President of the United States speaks.
205 everthink // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:40 am
Hairbrain Ranger,
“The lawsuit in California is the biggie! If (as well may be the case) Obama does not produce an original validated Birth Certificate then the State?s 55 Electoral votes will be blocked.”
How about this one?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
ET
206 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:00 am
Daannng Fred,
It must be a real hit to be wrong so often. OK, so, give up on the birth certificate thingy. You still have that he is a Muslim socialist that conspires with terrorists. Run, run like the wind with those pal.
207 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:03 am
Step away Darth and Fred,
Everthink ROCKS!!! You can’t hang.
208 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:59 am
Obama Advisors to Public: Temper Expectations
Whaaaaaat? He sold himself as Messiah. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, get Islamic fundamentalists to love America, bring prosperity to the world and pay poor people’s bills, grow pretty flowers and make rainbows … blah, blah, blah. Well, if it doesn’t happen his disciples can always blame it on Bush.
Gee, I’m kinda disappointed. I mean, where’s the “change”, particularly since he’s appointed all the junkyard dogs of the previous Clinton Administration?
Wish I were a messiah-struck moonbat so I could look the other way and not notice the utter Obamocrisy to this point.
Blacklion, your cognitive dissonance is breathtaking, though your total fealty to your new messiah is a little disturbing.
209 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 6:27 am
BTW, Blacklion, I haven’t the time to listen/read/watch either Hannity/Rush/(insert name of your least favorite “neo-con”). Seriously, I just don’t have the time since I work 55+ hours/wk at two jobs and am helping to pay for the left’s welfare/entitlement state.
The opinions I have are the result of taking what the lamestream media claims is “objective news” with a large dose of salt and reading between their lines, reading but ignoring the “news” at pseudo-intellectual echo chambers known as liberal blog (with whom your views sounds strangely similar, btw) and then finding alternative news carried by local news outlets (which are often ignored by the national socialist media if it doesn’t fit their agenda), independent foreign sources like the UK Telegraph and independent domestic news bloggers like Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit.
For example, though the following is more commentary, where else are you going to hear the following truth about, say, Obama’s pick of Eric Holder for U.S. Attorney General?:
As Deputy Attorney General, Holder was a strong supporter of restrictive gun control. He advocated federal licensing of handgun owners, a three day waiting period on handgun sales, rationing handgun sales to no more than one per month, banning possession of handguns and so-called “assault weapons†(cosmetically incorrect guns) by anyone under age of 21, a gun show restriction bill that would have given the federal government the power to shut down all gun shows, national gun registration, and mandatory prison sentences for trivial offenses (e.g., giving your son an heirloom handgun for Christmas, if he were two weeks shy of his 21st birthday). He also promoted the factoid that “Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violenceâ€â€“a statistic is true only if one counts 18-year-old gangsters who shoot each other as “children.†. . .
Holder played a key role in the gunpoint, night-time kidnapping of Elian Gonzalez. The pretext for the paramilitary invasion of the six-year-old’s home was that someone in his family might have been licensed to carry a handgun under Florida law. Although a Pulitzer Prize-winning photo showed a federal agent dressed like a soldier and pointing a machine gun at the man who was holding the terrified child, Holder claimed that Gonzalez “was not taken at the point of a gun†and that the federal agents whom Holder had sent to capture Gonzalez had acted “very sensitively.†If Mr. Holder believes that breaking down a door with a battering ram, pointing guns at children (not just Elian), and yelling “Get down, get down, we’ll shoot†is example of acting “very sensitively,†his judgment about the responsible use of firearms is not as acute as would be desirable for a cabinet officer who would be in charge of thousands and thousands of armed federal agents, many of them paramilitary agents with machine guns.
You certainly wouldn’t get this critical analysis based on undeniable facts from ANY national socialist media outlet and I bet dollars to donuts you and your ilk haven’t even come close to thinking much less embracing these very salient criticisms of Obama’s man Holder.
Nice try … but try looking in a mirror next time before you falsely accuse me of being a shill for someone else.
210 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 9:30 am
et #205,
You’re reading old info my friend. Try reading something more up-to-date… like HERE or HERE.
211 onlineanalyst // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:25 am
For my own edification, I would like for the champions of President-Elect Obama to specify what changes or pluses will occur with this new administration and a Democrat-dominated Congress . It would help if those who take up this invitation would indicate why these are positives for our nation.
Let’s add another challenge: What is it about Obama’s selection of transition staff, Cabinet choices, and White House “cabinet” that makes this new administration a net positive for America? On what basis has this judgment been made?
Based on Obama’s non-existent executive experience and limited legislative record, why should Americans trust Obama’s judgment?
Please address any responses by referring to Obama’s plans, policies, and expertise only. President Bush is not the topic of this query.
212 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm
ola,
It comes down to one thing at this point…HOPE! It’s evident around the world. They, like most of us, are HOPING that America can be worthy of respect once more. We lost it when we invaded a country that had done us no harm and presented no credible threat.
My earlier, quite ignored post regarding those being held in Cuba ties right into that, is one of the reasons that we are not currently getting any respect back (well, causing a worldwide depresssion doesn’t put us in good stead either).
Granted, some held there may well be guilty of something but we’ve been too “busy” to say what that might be. The folks released yesterday were cleared of wrongdoing where they were PRIOR to being turned over (at our insistance) and held form years and years. What do you know? Turns out they really didn’t do anything, nothing whatever, just as the courts found lo those many years ago.
If you can’t see these things to be facts (the utterly deserved loss of resepct and the reasons) then there is no arguing. Trust me, the rest of the world sees them quite clearly.
That brings us back to HOPE. Admittedly, that’s all we have right now. A man that we HOPE will try a different approach. Most of us, most of the world sees that HOPE.
Obama might bomb out…but, until that happens…we are gonna continue to HOPE!
213 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm
And if he screws up, he’ll get no quarter from me. I’ll be all over him…watch for it
214 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 12:48 pm
As for the staff, did you expect/hope for a bunch of folks with no experience? Did you hope for/expect republicans? What sort of team would have pleased you exactly?
215 NeaL // Nov 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Has anyone looked into whether the President of the United States, any President, can be denied National Security Clearance?
Rather than providing an easy link to one point of view, here are 3 with differing perspectives:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2096260/posts
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-naif/debunking-obama-security_b_136813.html
http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-national-security-clearance.html
216 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:13 pm
God Bless America
217 mig // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:33 pm
It has been now over a week since the election and we have seen entire gun stores sold out of ammo, guns, and just about every accessory. Obama (excuse me while I spit) has single handedly armed more people in the past week than any other president in history. These people have bought fighting weapons and the ammo that goes with them. Later they will want to learn how to use them. So “Thanks Barak!”
218 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Bob #212,
If you are “hoping” for respect from the rest of the world… forget it. It ain’t hapennin’. No matter what America does, it’s wrong.
For example, was it wrong to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait? George H.W. Bush put together a coalition that included the Arab states. Most of the world backed us 100%. We got in, got the job done, and got out. Right?
But that didn’t stop Osama bin Laden from perpetrating 9/11 on the basis that Americans were merely present in Saudi Arabia. And then a lot of libs said “we deserved it”.
C’mon. Get real. Somebody, somewhere is ALWAYS gonna hate America. Poor countries hate us ’cause we’re rich. Muslim countries hate us ’cause we’re not Muslim. Socialists hate us ’cause we’re not socialist. Antisemitics hate us ’cause Israel is our ally. When we intervene, the world hates us. When we DON’T intervene, the world hates us. When the U.S. economy hiccups, the rest of the world goes apoplectic… and they hate us for it.
As the old saying goes, you can’t please all the people all the time. Regarding the U.S., you can’t please anybody… ever!
Get ready, your “hopes” are about to be dashed…
219 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hawkeye, no argument that we can’t (and shouldn’t even try) please everyone, would be wasted effort.
However, to deny that there is exitement/hope spanning the globe for this move is to deny the obvious.
Granted, I/they/everyone might end up dissappointed. I wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
BUT (and this is a big BUT) we might NOT be either. Remind me which other president was ever greeted with such initial excitement either at home or abroad. Thus, the possibility exists.
Heck, if he doesn’t invade somewhere w/o good reason…1 point.
If he doesn’t hold “enemy” combatants for 7 years w/o ever exploring the veracity of that need…1 more point.
If he doesn’t condone torture…yet another point.
The “war” for resepect won’t be won with one action (it wasn’t lost that way either). both things happened/will happen in stages, one small step at a time.
To deny the POSSIBILITY of a new course, one that might garner more respect and (another biggie) world cooperation…is to deny what’s right in front of your eyes (whether he earned it or not)
In any case, the proof will be in the pudding, it’s currently impossible to laud or criticise actions/opportunities not yet taken.
But, the pieces for good things to happen are in place. we’ll see what he does with them.
I still beleive it could easily be good things but I’ll freely admit to having been wrong in the past. I just see MORE possibility for hope than I can remember…
220 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Shoot, Boberin,
You are on it! By the way, I don’t think #185 was missed. I caught it, just think you expressed it in a way that required no response.
I does appear to me that some of the anger is leaving the thread. That’s definitely welcomed.
221 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Hawkeye,
You bring up some good points. I think you’re correct someone will likely always hate the U.S. for something. But I don’t think the world as a whole has ever viewed us as badly as they do now. Our own allies have lost respect for us. I’m sure you’ve probably seen, but at the G-20 meeting, no one would shake the Presidents hand. Hopefully that will change.
222 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Bob – BL31U,
I “hope” you’re right…
223 boberinyetagain // Nov 21, 2008 at 4:17 pm
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A top Republican said on Friday that Democratic U.S. President-elect Barack Obama is “off to a good start” and indicated he was pleased to see President George W. Bush get ready to leave.
“Our members, in one way, are kind of relieved by the departure of an administration that became unpopular and made it very difficult for us to compete,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters on Capitol Hill.
“I think the new administration is off to a good start,” the Kentucky senator said.
“They’re saying, in my view, all the right things … that they want to govern in the middle and tackle big things.”
McConnell added a cautionary note: “It would not be a good idea for the new administration … to go down a laundry list of left-wing proposals and try to jam them through.”
“I don’t anticipate they’re going to do that. I’m hoping for the best,” McConnell said.
Did he say “hoping for the best”?
Hmmmm
224 onlineanalyst // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:11 pm
FWIW: CNN says that Bush was not snubbed at the G-20 meeting.
225 BlackLion31U // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:32 pm
OLA,
Thanks for the update.
226 everthink // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:34 pm
OLA,
So, when greeted by the President in the United States in the United States they did not reject his handshake.
But, later when joined by other real world leaders they let him pass by like the half-wit imbecile egomaniac he is, without shaking his hand. Like, why waste a handshake, … besides he has “cooties”.
Thanks for clearing that up!
ET
227 Hawkeye // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Bob #223,
Did he say “hoping for the best�
Hmmmm
McConnell is warning the Obama administration against trying to push through nearly everything that Obama pledged to do during the campaign. He may be “hoping for the best”, but no doubt fears the worst. I’m sure that he’s not exhibiting the same kind of “hope” that you have.
228 mig // Nov 21, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Can’t wait another minute: “[W]e should move the president’s inauguration up to the first Tuesday in December, one month after the election. The new Congress should have its schedule moved from early January to early December. That would allow a few weeks before the holidays to get urgent business done. When the Constitution was framed, things moved more slowly. That may explain the March date. The January date was an improvement. But the time lag still is too long in these modern times when crises need the earliest possible attention. People who elect a new president are eager for the change to take place. The sooner the better.” –USA Today founder Al Neuharth
229 gafisher // Nov 21, 2008 at 9:26 pm
OLA Re#211: “For my own edification, I would like for the champions of President-Elect Obama to specify what changes or pluses will occur …”
They won’t be able to do that for a while, OLA. The specific changes keep, er, changing.
230 Darthmeister // Nov 21, 2008 at 10:01 pm
TOLEDO, Ohio – An agency director improperly used state computers to find personal information on “Joe the Plumber,†a government watchdog said in a report released Thursday.
There was no legitimate business purpose for the head of Ohio’s Department of Job and Family Services to order staff to look up the records, Inspector General Tom Charles said.
Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.
Buwhahahahaha! Yeah, it was just coincidence. No dirty fascist Democrat tricks here … move along.
231 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:29 pm
boberin re#214, You said, “As for the staff, did you expect/hope for a bunch of folks with no experience? Did you hope for/expect republicans? What sort of team would have pleased you exactly?”
As for what I expected, he is doing EXACTLY that! That’s because I knew all along what a liar he is/was.
Perhaps you “O” worshippers forgot that he said that his Presidency was going to be different and NOT Washington as usual. That addresses number 1 question. For your number 2, he ALSO said he was going to work across the aisle, (and be a bi-partisan administration), and NO, if he appoints Chuck Hagle, or Dick Lugar to a post, that is NOT reaching across the aisle. BOTH would be considered Democrats only 4 years ago!
So O-blah-blah is doing EXACTLY what I expected he would, especially since he wants to pack his administration with experienced people, (even if it is packed with BAD experienced people), because the “O” has NO experience and that FACT will come to light very soon!
232 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 21, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Darth re:#230, She, (the criminal who “checked” on Joe), said that it was OK to check on ANYONE who is thrust into the public spotlight. I wonder why someone doesn’t check into her finances, and ENTIRE private life, since she has now been “thrust” into the spotlight?
Precident has been set that it is OK by Inspector General Tom Charles for anyone who works in Ohio!
Feel free to check on him also because now the “spotlight” is on him too!
233 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 9:24 am
The way you Mecca me feel! MICHAEL JACKSON has become a Muslim — and changed his name to MIKAEEL. Mikaeel is the name of one of Allah’s angels.
Yousef Islam, 60 — who was called Cat Stevens until he famously converted — turned up to help Jacko celebrate.
Prince Abdulla Al-Khalif of Bahrain bankrolled the singer’s lavish lifestyle in exchange for an exclusive recording contract. The billionaire sent songs for him to record but claims he was blanked. Now they are in court.
Holy Lying!
234 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:20 am
Mig
I just can’t see Meekel the Fecal in a turban. So Islam condones child molesters. Hmm, now I see why they don’t let women talk–they know to much.
So is Scott taking a break after his long run for president? The way I see things, the 2012 elections run starts in January
235 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:27 am
A South Florida college student killed himself by overdosing on drugs in front of a live online audience as some computer users egged him on, some debated his method, and others tried to talk him out of it. Here
236 Deerslayer // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:28 am
BO’s cabinet is shaping up to about what I expected. Of course he has to draw from the Clinton pool. Since he has had NO previous administrative experience, he has no associates with administrative experience. The talent pool he brings to Washington is no deeper than a August puddle in Phoenix.
237 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:29 am
Ms. RW
I was wondering about the whole little boy thing. Embrace it. There is a picture of Meekel ( spelling is like Lion King or something) and he looks like he is wearing a burka.
238 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:31 am
Mitch McConnell says that “42 Republican Senators represent 157,000,000” citizens of The United States of America.
In response to this I stood up as tall as I could (66.25″), stretched my quivering right index finger as far as it would go (in the senator’s direction) and said, “PROVE IT!”
239 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:32 am
Deerslayer
Most of the Obama voters look back on the Clinton years as the best years. Nostalgia. So between recreating Vietnam in Iraq and recreating ‘baby boomers come of age’ Clinton years, I can really see the change in my rear view mirror.
240 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:58 am
So Kerry was recently named chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. We now have a confessed war criminal in charge of the Foreign Relations Committee. That’s a change, all right.
241 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 22, 2008 at 12:47 pm
We have yet to, and never will, see any memoirs of BHO that go beyond facile superficiality. The memoirs of his string-pullers on the other hand…..
242 Newsman // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:33 pm
RepublicanAttackMachine – so you could do better ?
You remind of these guys with big pot bellies who sit on their fat arses and scream critically at football players in a game on TV. Themselves ? They couldn’t run ten yards without huffing and puffing and then dropping dead of a heart attack.
243 Fred Sinclair // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:49 pm
HOPE It seems a lot of folk are swinging on a perilous thread. For instance I HOPE that someday I’ll be wheeling down the sidewalk in my Hoveround and find a lotto ticket just lying there. I’ll pick it up and HOPE it ends up being the single winning ticket. I HOPE that after paying the income tax I’ll have several million dollars left. Now I know that HOPE springs eternal and that without HOPE, all is lost
1Cor. 15:19 If in this life only we have HOPE in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
But my HOPE in Christ is based on my belief by faith.
HOPE in Obama, is based on lies, stacked one upon another as he seeks to lead America down the broad highway to Socialism and destruction.
Ronald Reagan gave America HOPE based on the proven track record of Conservative values and of course he delivered as has every Conservative throughout history.
Socialism however has yet to produce even one (1) example of success. From the total abysmal failure in Russia (USSR) to the horrors of West Germany, North Korea, Cuba, North VietNam, Venezuela, etc.
And Obama and his cohorts primary mission is to bring America into line with these obvious failures. His entire being is to act as the marionette for whoever it is pulling his strings.
244 Fred Sinclair // Nov 22, 2008 at 5:55 pm
#243 – Oops that should read “East Germany” NOT “West Germany”!!! My bad, my very big bad!!! My apologies to all.
245 mig // Nov 22, 2008 at 8:45 pm
President-elect Barack Obama yesterday selected former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota to become the next Secretary of Health and Human Services. Thought we’d seen the last of him, aye?
Tooooom Dachle.
246 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34 pm
There is more than one Creator?
247 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:35 pm
OK, prove that one.Co
248 mindknumbed kid // Nov 22, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Push
249 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 22, 2008 at 11:04 pm
The press just couldn’t help themselves. A good article but it has many disparaging remarks. Good read though. Palin, I believe has more speaking engagements than ol’ Bill.
Gov. Palin’s popularity skyrocketing; has 800 requests for appearances in upcoming months
http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=222797§ion=news
250 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 12:48 am
It’s all over the place “President-elect this”, President-elect that”.
He is acting as if Jan 20th has come and gone. While it’s possible that B. Hussein Obama may become the “President-elect” In fact, in all probability he will be voted on and “win” the election for the Presidency besting Senator John McCain; but until Monday, Dec. 15th, 2008 there isn’t anybody that’s won anything yet.
On the first Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the Electors will meet in their respective State Capitals and cast their vote for the President. I recall that there are about 21 States where they can be prosecuted if they fail to vote the way the ‘popular’ vote dictated. That leaves 29 States (plus D.C. that finally got an Elector) where the Electors may or may not vote the ‘popular’ dictate. (It has happened more than once) John F. Kerry – 2004 being a case in point where he won the popular vote but the Electoral College voted for Bush who as everyone knows is the current President of the USofA. AFTER the Senate and House of Representatives count the Electoral votes, then, and only then, will Obama most probably become the “President Elect” until such time, he is The Presumptive President Elect.
I’ve heard there’s many a slip between the cup and the lip and the Electoral College could give the Presidency to McCain/Palin
Not that they would because the ensuing carnage would be too horrible to contemplate. It would take weeks perhaps even months for the riots to fade away.
McCain would likely refuse it if the did give it to him, but there are still a goodly number of lawsuits to be settled between now and Dec. 15th. Or, in a deceptively simplistic observation, there’s the words of the famed Yogi Berra “It ain’t over ’till it’s over.”
251 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:14 am
Newsman: You must be straight out of the LAME stream media, complete with “putting words in other people’s mouths”. I NEVER said I could do any better, BUT, the big difference is, I would NOT have LIED and said I would do something and then do the OPPOSITE and I would not have “claimed” I had experience, as Obama the moron did!
People like you don’t even know how ignorant you look when you FALSELY accuse someone of something.
Get that BEAM out of your eye before you attempt to remove my splinter.
As for “reminding” people3 od somebody, YOU remind me of EVERY lib.
Have some more Kool Ade, clone!
252 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:30 am
In other news, Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan are forbidden to enter Zimbabwe. How bad is it there that the two who brokered and protected Mugabe’s election are personae non grata?
How much of our GDP will Obama funnel through the Global Poverty Initiative to failed African states? When corrupt leadership in those countries keeps aid from reaching the very people that it is intended to serve/save, how can naive policy address the problem?
Re Obama and my #211 challenge: I have yet to read a response that is anything more than nebulous mush. I’m not interested in accepting campaign slogans as ideas or policiy positions.
I will grant that the Obama selection of the new Treasury secretary promises some positives to address the Democrats’ instigated credit crash. When Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Chuck Schumer and the like are hauled before a demanding investigative committee, perhaps we will have some justice.
The first item of business for Congress is to defund ACORN from the federal budget and to make null and void the provisions of the CRA. No more tax money or federal guarantees should be supporting political entities and the giant sucking hole of guaranteeing housing for the credit-unworthy in the name of spreading the wealth.
As far as ICE is concerned, Chertoff has been a joke. Napolitano will be a travesty. (Is this the judgment that we can expect in the Obama presidency? The learning curve of Obama’s on-the-job training will be steep, and he is well on his way to becoming a pawn of the Clinton masters.)
Newsman: It is Obama who made the claims about changing the ways of Washington re staffing. We’re accustomed to his reneging and walking back a lot of his campaign rhetoric though, even during the runup itself. For a newsman, you certainly don’t avail yourself much to primary statements by Obama and fact-check to verify them.
253 mig // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:54 am
Barry says only one president at a time, but Chris Matthews again has the American Solution with his leftist pollution…
Thanksgiving is next week, and President Bush could make it a really special holiday by resigning. Seriously. We have an economy that’s crashing and a vacuum at the top. Bush — who is currently on a trip to Peru to meet with Asian leaders who no longer care what he thinks — hasn’t got the clout, or possibly even the energy, to do anything useful. His most recent contribution to resolving the fiscal crisis was lecturing representatives of the world’s most important economies on the glories of free-market capitalism.
Putting Barack Obama in charge immediately isn’t impossible. Dick Cheney, obviously, would have to quit as well as Bush. In fact, just to be on the safe side, the vice president ought to turn in his resignation first. (We’re desperate, but not crazy.) Then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president until Jan. 20. Obviously, she’d defer to her party’s incoming chief executive, and Barack Obama could begin governing.
254 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:09 am
Boberin: As Hawkeye stated on November 21, courting popular opinion is a no-win proposition and decidely no way to conduct foreign policy.
The AUMF had resounding approval from Congress. A coalition of multiple nations agreed to depose Iraq. When setbacks occurred, the wobbly began to rewrite the history of the Iraq liberation and the decisions leading up to it.
Many nations rely on the military might of the US for their security. The US carries the burden for NATO while most of the member nations have dedicated their budgets to tax-extortionary social programs at the expense of their own defense. The adult leaders of those nations recognize the debt they owe to the generosity of America. Their media and the people influenced by its anti-American bias, not so much.
Yet to a nation, the desire to emigrate to the US and its opportunities is a reality in the world.
The self-absorbed Sanchez of CNN may want to perpetuate an anti-Bush sentiment with his misleading “snub” story, but the facts of the G-20 event say otherwise.
Let me share an anecdote posted by alflauren at hotair on November 22:
This reminds me of a story I once read about former SoS George Schultz.
He would call the new foreign service recruits into his office, would point to the globe on the desk, and ask them, “Where is your country?†Inevitably, the recruits would point to the country for which they had been trained – Germany, Morocco, Brazil, etc.
Schultz would respond by spinning the globe over to the USA and pointing, “no, HERE is your country.â€
That’s what the State Dept. people still don’t get – they’re not out to be the go-betweens for foreign governments. They’re out there to represent the interests of the USA.
I daresay that I have done a little more international travel than you, boberin, even during this era of the Iraq and Afghanistan engagement. The United States is not deplored as you suggest. Any anti-Bush sentiment is perpetuated in places where Marxist-inspired political factions flourish.
255 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:23 am
Correction: “to depose Saddam Hussein”
Mig: Not only is Matthews a partisan hack, but he is an ethically challenged journalist. Somebody needs to remind this fool that we do not live in a mob-ruled banana republic and that nearly half of the country rejected the proposition of an Obama presidency.
To even consider Pelosi as an interim leader, she whose “leadership” marked the beginnings of rising fuel prices and fiscal disaster, gives me fatal heartburn. Her train-wreck of running the House has led to an historically low approval rating of Congress. While she is off saving the planet and complaining about Republican lack of ethics, she is unable to understand that her political ideas will bankrupt the nation further and that her own caucus and that of her best-buddy Reid have membership that should be in federal prisons.
256 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 23, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I find it heartening to see that more and more Leftist Traitors are beginning to funnel more and more of their psychotic hatred toward their very own symbiotic host, the Democrat party.
257 gafisher // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Not me, JL3 Re#256. It’s like a Muslim wedding — they’re shooting live ammunition, and they neither know nor care where it comes down.
258 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Why doesn’t the word of God say “The Creator” instead of “thy Creator”? Is that because Christ as Creator believes in other Creators?
Ecclesiastes 12:1
Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
259 gafisher // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm
mkk Re#258: in a word, no.
“The” creator is impersonal, while “thy” implies responsibility. Neither really indicates multiple Creators, but Scripture’s usage makes it clear only one really matters anyway.
260 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:40 pm
We have been constantly fed lies for truth, from Glowbull Warming to the Iraq War, to the current financial crisis. In order for Barry-O to be an effective leader of the nation he is going to have to govern counter to what has been sold as truth. The proposals to save the planet from CO2 emissions will destroy our economy. If we fail to deliver a system that realizes freedom for the Iraqi people (especially religious freedom) it will have been all for naught. And with all of his anti-capitalist “friends” there is no better excuse to “change” our system than the current “crisis”. These obstacles are more than I believe any president could overcome in a manner that would be culpable to the masses.
But the bigger problem is the rejection of Christ within our national soul. Christianity is the only “tolerant” religion where you can have true freedom of religion as a nation. Other “religions” will not tolerate freedom of religion. That is why throughout the middle east there are laws thwarting the efforts to evangelize. It is why in China believers are persecuted and the church is forced to meet in secrecy.
As Christians we have been given a job.Matthew 28:18-20
18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
That is one of the purposes for the founding fathers having given us our freedoms, so that we may speak and preach our consciences without fear, that we may obey our Creator. When we lose our freedom to speak the truth of the gospel and are charged with hate speech or inciting violence because of our stand for the teachings of the Bible, our nation will have gone beyond God’s blessing and will be destroyed. We may be the agents of destruction ourselves, or it could be another nation that rises up and conquers us. However it happens, the cause will be the rejection of Christ as our Lord and our disobedience to his word.
261 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Jesus Christ does not believe anything.
262 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:03 pm
gafisher- re#259: Precisely – man can attribute someone other than Christ as being their creator, but it does not change the fact that Christ is the Creator, and therefore when the founders referred to us being endowed by our Creator, they knew it was Christ, and not whomever each individual perceived his creator to be. They used a capital “c” when they referred to the Creator, a recognition of deity.
If we were talking about light bulbs then saying their creator could refer to the particular manufacturer, or to the creator of the incandescent light bulb, Mr. Edison. But not so with humanity, our Creator is also the Creator.
John Chapter 1 says:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
263 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:12 pm
That would be because Jesus Christ knows all things.
(my thoughts today are in response to #189,193 & 202)
264 mindknumbed kid // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Here is an example of Christians “causing trouble” and why the left will most likely try to place restrictions on our freedoms as Christians.
http://americansfortruth.com/news/h8ing-christians-video-shows-aftermath-of-homosexual-mob-attack-on-christians-in-san-franciscos-castro-district.html#more-2410
265 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:58 pm
CORRECTION MY #250
I wrote, “John F. Kerry – 2004 being a case in point where he won the popular vote but the Electoral College voted for Bush….”
I got the wrong one, it was Gore that won the popular votes.
My bad; Bush in 04 – 62,028,285, Kerry 59,028,109
(it was the 2000 election. I got it confused with Bush in ‘00 – 50,456, 002 (47.87%) Gore 50,999,897 (48.38%) Nader 2,882,955 (2.74%).
So actually, Gore won the popular vote -remember the ‘hanging chads’ in Florida? – It ended up in the Supreme Court. The Electoral votes from Florida went to Bush, giving him the win.) Kudos to those who caught my error.
I hate it when I’m wrong but it was me that was wrong and I have to own up to it with a correction.
266 Fred Sinclair // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm
mkk #264 – reminded me of Paul in his second letter to Timothy:
2Tim. 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Tim. 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Until Christ returns I can find nothing, where in the last days anything will get better and better. I believe we are at the end of those last days. I hope to still be alive at His return.
267 onlineanalyst // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Heh!
268 Darthmeister // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:49 pm
TIME Magazine’s Mark Halperin: “Disgusting Media Bias” for Barack Obama
Hmmmm. Thank you for your insightful honesty Mr. Halperin, but don’t you think it’s a little late for your epiphany?
BTW, Newsman, why don’t you try Googling “Kill Joe the Plumber”. These are the kind of closet fascist whack jobs on your side of the aisle. If you can get past the many references to the SF radio host who spewed this venom, you’ll find any number of liberal/left blogs echoing the same sentiment.
Yeah, “change” is in the air alright since the election of Obamessiah, and your side of the aisle is becoming increasingly dangerous to even the average American citizen with its feral hate and lies.
269 Darthmeister // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm
… testing 1 … 2 …. 3
270 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:40 am
Luke 18:8
I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Passages such as this would definitely indicate that in the time prior to the return of Christ there will be some hard days. It will be a time that separates the professing believers from the people who know Christ as their Savior. As the days grow nearer we need to get closer to him, I see no sign of things turning around.
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
271 Fred Sinclair // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 am
Pamela Lewis, with a degree in Astrophysics, has this comment on “The American Thinker”
“…. If you believe in God, shame on you for not taking care of this planet. You would rather see it destroyed. I believe in God and believe in saving the planet as the Lord said we are keepers of this planet. If you don’t then you must believe in greed, hatred and hostile racism towards President Elect Obama.”
I’m still trying to figure what algore’s “carbon footprint” HOAX has to do with “….hostile racism towards President Elect Obama.”
(that should be amended to read “Presumptive President Elect Obama.”)
I’ve even heard Rush call him “the President Elect” Shame on you Rush, old buddy. Of all people, you should know better.
So if you’re smart enough to steer clear of algore and all his hype surrounding “The Great HOAX”. That is proof that you are greedy, a hater and a racist.
But it figures – makes about as much sense as the rest of the nonsense she wrote.
And btw Pamela, you wrote, “…..as the Lord said we are keepers of this planet.” Sorry Pamela, I looked and couldn’t find the verse you cite.
Instead I found that God had a garden and He placed Adam in there as His gardener — later God told Adam and Eve; “Gen. 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” I don’t see God designing Adam and Eve so that their exhaled breath (carbon dioxide) could eventually destroy His creation of the world.
Nothing I can see there about us being the keepers of this planet or harboring racism toward Obama.
272 Libby Gone // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:56 am
Greetings all!
How ya doing Fred?
273 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 7:37 am
Don’t forget to add a soldier to your christmas list:
A Recovering American Soldier
c/o Walter Reed Army Medical Center
6900 Georgia Avenue,NW
Washington,D.C. 20307-5001
274 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 7:42 am
Hey ya LibbyGone!
How’re things in your neck of the woods?
275 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:03 am
Morning all. Hi Libby!
276 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:45 am
Oops, Matthews has had a turn around on the Clinton appointment. Maybe the only drama will be Matthews himself.
With the news of Hillary Clinton as the incoming Secretary of State, Matthews called it “an astounding gesture of magnanimity.” Taking a swipe at the outgoing Bush administration, Matthews claimed the world is “waiting to see us back in that family of nations” and touted Bill Clinton’s popularity around the world. Matthews even opined that despite past primary rivalries, the Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama “relationship is going by swimmingly.”
Think Mattews realized that if he starts questioning the One now he may not get to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom?
“Obama is determined to pick the strongest, smartest people he can find, knowing that he is facing an economic crisis of historic proportions.”
A Nexis search turned up no references on NBC, in December 2000-January 2001, to President-elect Bush’s “all-star cabinet” though it featured some stars, such as Colin Powell.
And then there is this, remember that while the Stock Market was tanking, it was Bush’s fault ( and the Democrat Party controled congress has zero culpability in any of it ) and now that its rebounding it must be the FabObama! Brace yourself for these comparisons for the next 4 -8 years.
NBC Nightly News put “OBAMA MOVES THE MARKET” on screen as anchor Brian Williams teased: “On our broadcast here tonight, Obama moves the market. Stocks go on a huge rally with first word of the President-elect’s choice of a Treasury Secretary.” As he set up Mitchell, viewers saw “TAKING ACTION” beneath a picture of Obama.
277 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:52 am
I now have 4 followers on Twitter—Oh! the pressure…..
278 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:24 am
mig re:#276, That “Obama moving the market” kills me!
For the last several months, the stock market has been up and down in the HUNDREDS of points, but now, all of a sudden it is Obama that is making it move with his appointments.
Of course, he ONLY makes it move UPWARD, not down. And all the trolls, say it is too early to BLAME obama for anything, but it is OK to give him credit for something that he had nothing to do with!
The MAIN reason for the big downturn is the “market” knows he will tax capitol gains, and so be prepared for a BIG, let me repeat B-I-G sell off before January 20th to keep from being taxed at the “Obama tax rate”!!!
279 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:35 am
Jimmy,
I don’t think those are “followers” in the sense you mean. Are your “followers” wearing uniforms, or white coats? Are they carrying a net?
Have you ever heard of a “Napoleon Complex”?
Maybe you should get down off your little box and go with your nice “followers”. Maybe they can help you with your “pressure”.
As always, your pal
ET
280 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:38 am
The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPR) foreshadows new regulations of unprecedented scope, magnitude, and detail. This notice is not just bureaucratic rumination, but could very well become the law of the land. Jason Grumet, a senior environmental advisor to Barack Obama, has promised that a President Obama would “initiate those rulings.”
These rulings offer the possibility of regulating everything from lawn-mower efficiency to the cruising speed of supertankers. Regardless of the chosen regulatory mechanisms, the overall ecoÂnomic impact of enforced cuts in carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions as outlined in the ANPR will be equivalent to an energy tax.
281 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:50 am
Fred,
“Instead I found that God had a garden and He placed Adam in there as His gardener …”.
Wrong, look again false prophet.
No toil; no planting, no weeds, but always a plentiful daily harvest.
ET
282 everthink // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:58 am
“though it featured some stars, such as Colin Powell.”
And?
ET
283 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Sign the petition to see Obama’s birth certificate. Click on the link below…
Petition
284 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:35 pm
From Free Republic
About twelve minutes into a Detroit radio station’s interview with Kenyan ambassador Peter Ogego, he is asked whether or not monuments will be erected in honor of Obama’s elevation to the United States presidency.
Ogego responds that a monument will be erected at Obama’s birthplace in Kenya, which is already a site of pilgrimage: “His birthplace is already an attraction…it’s already well known.â€
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother has also asserted that he was born in Kenya, not the United States. The Constitution bars those born outside of US territory from becoming President.
There are also lawsuits pending — including one by Obama’s former Senate campaign opponent Alan Keyes — challenging Obama to provide proof of citizenship eligibility to take office. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has put this isssue on the docket for the Court to review on December 5th.
285 mig // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:38 pm
From NPR
What makes you think the $25 billion would even be enough?
Rep. Barney Frank: We don’t think it would be enough.
286 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Wow! They found Obama’s birth certificate… HERE.
287 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Hawkeye: There is a black “Reverend” in Indianapolis threatening “CivilWar” if people do not drop the birth certificate request. I have emails from him.
288 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Birth Certificate…seems to be right here…sorry folks…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
289 NeaL // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm
It has been 11 days since Scott’s last post.
Is he taking a break?
Gone on vacation?
Sick?
Just curious. I hope all’s well.
290 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Good Job Boberin.
Hey maybe the confusion was caused because The President Elect is Barack Hussein Obama II.
Barack Hussein Obama I, is a native of Kenya except he didn’t run for President. Nice try Hannity, Rush, Fred.
291 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I dunno, that took about 8.5 seconds to locate. What’s the “hubbub”?
292 NeaL // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:37 pm
It has been 11 days since Scott’s last entry.
Is he on vaction?
Taking a break?
Sick?
Just wondering. I hope all is well.
293 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Hey!
Someone cuss on this thing to see if Scott’s still alive. If he deletes it, I won’t have to get my black suit dry-cleaned.
Alright, I’LL do it:
Hellfire!
294 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:27 pm
MKK #247,
Prove that there is one!
Prove that those who believe in Islam, Bahai, Sikhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Scientology, Judaism, have any less commitment to “THEIR” beliefs than you do of yours.
The point here is that it is your FAITH, and you me and every other American has a right to believe as they wish.
295 BlackLion31U // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Without interference from or influence of the government.
296 boberinyetagain // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm
JCM, not strong enough…let’s try [deleted]
That should tell the tale
297 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:17 pm
BL31U -So if you are committed enough to your belief you are OK? The only absolute source of truth declares Christ. He is either embraced or rejected. How is it that you claim to know him, yet you speak in such a disparaging manner about him? Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. As foot soldiers for Christ we have been commanded to proclaim his gospel. His word of truth says that if you love him you will keep his commandments. The Americanization of Christianity seems to say if your neighbor worships a false god you shouldn’t interfere in his religion. God, who is not willing that any should perish, would have us as believers to declare his Son to him and when we fail to do so he holds us accountable. He would have us live according to his word that we would be a testimony for him also. We may think we are free to live as we wish under the new covenant of Christ’s blood, but in reality we are to live in a manner that brings others to Christ. We have been bought with a price and therefore we are to live for our Savior, who is our Creator, and not to please ourselves and the lusts of our flesh. Do we represent well the cause of our Lord? I admit that I fail to represent Christ as I ought to, I do not believe the obligation to tell others about Christ can be replaced completely by”lifestyle evangelism”, but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.
ET – Fred is correct.Genesis 2:15
And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Not that it was a difficult job, but Adam had work to do, and while in obedience a perfect relationship with his employer.
Psalm 14:1a
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
298 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:22 pm
NeaL – I think Scott deserves some time away. We all tend to stray from the subject he brings up and talk about whatever suits our fancy anyway, so any thread is viable for our cause(s).
299 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Christians have an obligation to maintain this as a Christian nation. If you haven’t noticed though, we are failing miserably at doing so. As I already stated, if this nation ceases to be a Christian nation, our religious freedom will no longer exist. Other religions (I deplore using the word religion(s) in this context, but it is the easiest to get it said with a degree of brevity) do not tolerate such ideals. Arguments against legitimate attempts to maintain it as a Christian nation are of course counter productive to the cause, why would a Christian desire to allow it to slip away, and why give aid to the enemy? Satan is gaining an advantage, open your eyes people.
300 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:39 pm
300th! Have we ever “gone this far” before?
301 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Bober – The certificate # on that “copy” of the birth certificate was computer generated. In 1961 they used typewriters. I was born in 1961 too.
Not trying to be an expert, just don’t buy that being real.
302 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Bob #288 & MKK #301,
The birth certificate shown at FactCheck.org is a “short-form” copy that was computer-generated in 2007 (and stamped as such). You will notice that there is no reference to the doctor who delivered the baby, or in what hospital the baby was born, and no other vital statistics.
The controversy stems (in part) from the fact that Hawaii is a state that (in 1961 at any rate) issued birth certificates to people whose child was born in other states or countries. The birth could have been “registered” versus “recorded” as a live birth.
There are additional controversies, not the least of which is that Obama’s grandmother swears she was present in the delivery room when Barack was born in Mombasa, Kenya in August 1961.
Considering that there are now about 17 different lawsuits concerning the “native-born” status of Barack Obama, you would think he would just dismiss all the hype and release his original “vault-copy”, “long-form” birth certificate (which is the one everybody is interested in). Why won’t he release it?
If nothing else, it is up for conference in the U.S. Supreme Court on December 5th. Clarence Thomas has issued the request for conference. If 4 Justices agree, they will hear the case.
Watching and waiting…
303 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:49 pm
MKK #300,
Correction. That’s 300-teenth!
304 Hawkeye // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:55 pm
RAM #287,
Somehow me-thinks he won’t be waving the ’stars and bars’ or the ‘confederate’ flag…
305 mindknumbed kid // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Dan is home from the hospital and doing well. Shirley is complaining about him being stubborn…
God is good!
306 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Hawkeye re #302, Sorry, my friend but you are wasting your time with the trolls. While they are patting themselves on the back over the FAKE birth certificate, it only proves one of two things.
(1) They are too ignorant to know that this FAKE has been out there for weeks, if not months, and has been proven to be a fake.
OR
(2) As I suspect, they are only here posting to cause trouble.
Number 2 is more likely as, if you noticed, the trolls decide the way to see if Scott is OK is by using vulgar language to see if he will delete it, instead of speaking directly to him and asking him if he is OK.
I, like MOST here, sincerely hope everything is OK Scott. We are praying for you!
Now why could you trolls not say something like that instead of your “method”?
PS: It may not have been right, BUT, in 1961, fathers race would have said either negro, or black and NOT African.
Not PC, but acurate!
You trolls lose credibility with each post. Since you are all in the same place, (as proved by the fact you all show up at the same time), is it a college dorm, “sleeper cell”, or do they have Internet access in prison now?
307 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:07 am
If Obama refuses is is not required to be verified as being constitutionally qualified what is stopping George Soros from being elected? Just my opinion, let’s have every candidate prove they meet the legal requirements when filing for office. Obfuscation only serves to raise suspicion, not a logical tactic for a legitimate contender.
I knew where Bober’s link went and although I had never checked it out before today and not having paid attention to why others said it was not legitimate it was so obviously not his original birth certificate that posting it only serves to cast more doubt on the subject.
I was unsure that there was much chance that he was not born in Hawaii before, but this matter does not pass the smell test. I cannot imagine the courts not addressing it, and the sooner the better.
308 Fred Sinclair // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:07 am
mkk #299 – you wrote “Other religions (I deplore using the word religion(s) in this context, but it is the easiest to get it said with a degree of brevity)”
100% of all of the world’s religions (last I read there are 2,227 – surely there are more by now) have one thing in common. Without a single exception they are all based on the idea of “Man seeking God” by preforming an act or acts of various sorts.
Christianity, on the other hand, stands alone as the only Spiritual contact with God where it is “God seeking man”
Religions all have a list of actions that man must do to work or earn his way to Heaven, ranging from the sacrifice of virgins on an altar to reciting certain prayers. Throwing one’s firstborn into the fire to the meticulous following of a certain list of “Do’s and Don’t’s”
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God did a perfect work – Jesus said, “It is finished” There is nothing lacking and man’s puny attempt to improve on God’s finished work can only stand as an affront to God as if saying “Yes God, the sacrifice of Jesus was good it just wasn’t good enough, but never fear, by my doing or not doing this and that, I’ll fix it for you. With my addition, I will have earned the right to enter Heaven.”
One of the problems that raises is that God is a Spirit and material acts do not relate to the spiritual.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Our best, weighed alongside God’s minimum, is so far below God’s standard that there is no comparison.
All religions are works based. Christianity is grace based.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph. 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Good works are the natural outpouring of a changed life (Spirit) One explanation that clarified things for me was about the apple tree that produces gnarly, twisted unattractive apples. The cause is bad, diseased, rotting roots. When a tree surgeon cuts away and makes clean healthy roots, the apple tree will naturally produce good, well proportioned, attractive apples. The tree requires no effort on it’s part, the good apples are simply a natural outpouring of a healthy apple tree.
And so the good works in a Christian’s life are simply the natural outpouring of a born again spirit. Not payment for a ticket into Heaven.
I doubt that anyone hates religion more than God does.
309 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:57 am
Colmes is divorcing Hannity. He really thinks he can make it without Mr. Opinion. Colmes only knows how to react to Hannitys’ bursts. If he is hoping to get on the Obamobile to the White House, he ain’t no Tony Snow, God Rest His Soul.
Shine said, “We’re very sorry to see Alan reach this decision but we understand his desire to seek other creative challenges in his career. Behind closed doors they’re sighing with relief, they couldn’t fire the guy and after waiting 12 years, probably glad to see him go. Maybe Alec Baldwin will take his place. Heh Heh Heh. Or Al Franken if he can’t win the election.
The Alan Colmes Show on FOX Talk, a division of FOX News Radio. Alan Rush Colmes? Snicker.
310 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:00 am
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.~~James 1:27
311 NeaL // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:10 am
Re: mig #309
I heard that yesterday, too.
My father-in-law gave me a copy of Michael Moore’s book, “Stupid White Men.” I didn’t get past the introduction, but I did notice that in the Table Of Contents there was a chapter titled,
“HANNITY and colmes.”
It’s one of the few times I have to acknowledge that Michael Moore has a point: Alan Colmes is kinda a watered-down Liberal compared to Sean Hannity’s Conservative fire.
I prefer FOXnews.com to any other cable news network’s website, but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that when FOXnews features a Liberal on their staff, the Liberal is just too nutty to take seriously, or they are very weak.
Or …maybe it’s just how I see Liberals in general?
312 MargeinMI // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:33 am
I, too, wish Scott well. Oh, and 300 ain’t even near close to longest thread!
Hawkeye,
Signed, sealed and forwarded. Over 75,000 signatures so far. Anxiously awaiting Dec. 5. I was telling the Boy about this the other day, and we’re both wondering what would happen if it is proved that O is not an American citizen. My guess is that there will be a whooooooooooole lots of folks saying it doesn’t matter. Kinda like the definition of ‘marraige’ (if you catch my drift).
313 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:20 am
mig #309:
If you have ever listened to Colmes radio show, then you realize he is NOT the nice little liberal he “plays” on TV. He is down right as mean and disgusting as Franken with his making fun of callers, not giving them a chance to get their point out, and if losing the arguement, hangs up on them.
The ONLY benefit of him being on radio is NOT having to see his left eyebrow go up and down constantly!
He reminds me of the guy who tries to get Kris Kringle fired in the 1947 version of “Miracle on 34th Street”. He CONSTANTLY fidgets with his eyebrow. Later in the movie, we see his secretary, who has picked up the habit from him!
It will be on Thanksgiving Day 2pm NBC.
I think Hannity is getting stale, and in a lot of cases is too whiney about the same things over and over. People really only need to hear things once, or maybe a couple of times. Sean reminds us 100 times!
I would rather see Mark Levin take Hannity’s place and leave Colmes there. Levin is the equal to what Colmes is on the radio for the other side.
Now that, would be entertainment!
314 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:25 am
Must be too early for the trolls. I am sure they are busy making up their “Prop 8 is Nothing but H8″ signs for tonight’s Church trespasses in San Fran.
315 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:30 am
RAM…college dorm? I wish!
Nope, just me and the screen in mom’s basement. Sometimes the rest of the “gang” stops by and we try to outdo each other.
Then again, I’ve been posting for close to 5 years now at this site.
Scott has been more than gracious, has gone as far as to defend my “right” to post even though there is little we agree on (but more than many suspect).
As for my comment that Scott deleted above it goes to show that…
a) he’s still on the job and…
b) his sense of humor remains intact because the word I used to “provoke” him into action was not the least bit offensive…he’s just goofing on us.
316 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:42 am
boober: Sorry, I forgot about the “lazy bums” still living off “Mommy”.
317 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:45 am
BTW boober, got anymore forged documents for us to look at?
You are truly the Dan Rather of Scrappledom!
318 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:53 am
RAM, I’m betting that a video tape that begins in the Hawaiian hospital parking lot, showing Obama’s dad driving mom up to the door and continues unstopped into the delivery room with a zoom in on mom’s private parts showing Obama’s head crowning wouldn’t do it. You’d swear that wasn’t his mom, wasn’t his head, wasn’t really in Hawaii.
Kinda like the moon landing footage…
Oops, mom says breakfast is ready…carry on…Sheesh I love french toast
319 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 25, 2008 at 10:53 am
It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.
320 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:10 am
MKK #297,
“but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.”
THAT’S the answer partner.
Unfortunately the religious right, so heavily involved in political activities, have not been good ambassadors at all. In my opinion they are just modern day Pharisees.
“In the “New Bible Dictionary”, H. L. Ellison says,
“Basic to the Pharisees conception of religion was the belief that the Babylonian Exile was caused by Israel’s failure to keep the Torah (The Mosaic law), and that its keeping was an individual as well as a national duty.”
Because of this, the experts of the law set about “hedging” the Mosaic law with precepts so as to make its violation almost impossible. They also added to these laws and precepts, customs which had been handed down through the years. They took these precepts to such extremes that the original intent of the written law was often lost, having been made of no effect by the oral laws and traditions which they had brought in.
H. L. Ellison says,
“All these developments together with thirty one customs of ‘immemorial usage’ formed the ‘oral law’.”
To the Pharisee, keeping the law (both written and oral) was everything. The condition of a person’s heart towards God was unimportant. Because of their strict adherence to levitical laws of purity, they kept themselves separate from gentile ’sinners’ (on whom they looked down), for fear of being defiled.
321 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:13 am
RAM-
Sean is redundant. And we only get Levine on the cable tv radio. Also G. Gordon Liddy. I have also found a morning talk guy locally Curtis Wright that I like. Colmes, man I am not sorry to see him go. But I don’t watch Fox much. Mostly radio and internet.
322 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:17 am
Hey Marge!
Boy it’s along time!
323 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:18 am
JL3,
Where’s the love man? You sound almost as angry as RAM.
324 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:19 am
JL3…”It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.”
My “offensive” word consisted of a large rodent combined with the gasseous byproduct it might produce. The word was used in Caddy Shack…I promise that Scott is just messing with y’all.
And I love you too…honest
325 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:21 am
Fred #308,
“And so the good works in a Christian’s life are simply the natural outpouring of a born again spirit. Not payment for a ticket into Heaven.”
You nailed that one. Good post.
326 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:29 am
and…that’s the nicest thing I’ve been called all day, thanks!
327 J. Cougar Melancholy // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Good to see Scott’s still kickin’!
Time for a recipe! Y’all can try this for Thanksgiving. It’s powerful good!
JCM’s Famous East Coast Corn Puddin’:
2 cans cream corn
1 1/2 cups whole milk
4 eggs beaten senseless
1 1/2 tablespoons flour
1 tablespoon sugar
Pinch salt
Plenty ‘o pepper
Nutmeg
In Corningware casserole bowl, sift flour into milk and mix well.
Add eggs, corn, sugar, salt, pepper and mix well.
Top with nutmeg.
Place in oven for 1 1/2 hr. at 350 degrees.
Test with a fork or toothpick
Serve and enjoy!
I’ll be watchin’ “Miracle on 34th St” when we get back from the Macy’s Parade. I’ll be thinkin’ of you RAM and all of youse.
328 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:25 pm
re 300 & 312
This is true. Back in the day, as the southerners say, we racked up four or five hundred in no time. That is when we had a whole host of posters.
We even had a night shift who had to put the cat out. Sigh, the good old days when we beat the Democrats and had Kerry to kick around
329 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 12:31 pm
JCM: There is another good line in the movie. After Kris wacks the “eyebrow guy” with his cane, the floor manager tells Natalie Wood’s mom, “Maybe he is only a little crazy, like those people in Washington?”
330 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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Christmas cards should be addressed and sent to:
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P.O. Box 5456
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Cards must be postmarked by December 10 , 2008. Cards received after this date will be returned to senders. For more information, please visit Redcross.org/holidaymail.
331 Hawkeye // Nov 25, 2008 at 2:28 pm
MargeinMI #312,
Thanks! And just a reminder for those who may have missed it…
Sign the petition to see Obama’s birth certificate. Click on the link below…
Petition.
332 Hawkeye // Nov 25, 2008 at 2:59 pm
To all,
Perhaps Scott Ott is following Obama’s lead from the story…
“Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’…â€
Hope you’re enjoying the time away Scott, and NOT doing something mundane like “working for a living”…
333 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Remove Barack and you get Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi. Hillary would be 3rd in line.
“Puuushhhhhh”
334 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 3:52 pm
BLU,
Apparently folks here like Joe Biden better than Obama…kinda odd but that’s the “best case” scenario if Obama cannot serve…
335 NeaL // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:06 pm
re: boberinyetagain #334
Nah, man. We’re talking about “President,” here.
It the man elected is disqualified, the 1st runner-up would be John McCain followed by… Bob Barr, maybe?
336 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:10 pm
In cases where a president has not been chosen by January 20 or “fails to qualify”, or if the President-elect dies before the January 20 inauguration, the 20th Amendment states the Vice President-elect becomes president.
337 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Did we say $700 billion? At the time that sounded like a lot, you’d have to admit…
(Reuters) – Two new Federal Reserve programs aimed at easing consumer credit and lowering mortgages costs have pushed the potential bill for U.S. financial rescue efforts to about $8.317 trillion, although far less has been committed so far and money extended might not be lost.
Obama is the socialist here? Tell me more…
338 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:22 pm
and that’s after a month…
339 BlackLion31U // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Dang Bober #336,
Ya beat me to it.
So please everyone sign the petition. If it works you can call her Vice President Pelosi. If it fails, you’ll be put on Obama’s short list for civil service.
340 boberinyetagain // Nov 25, 2008 at 4:51 pm
BLU, I shudder to think why anyone might prefer Biden to Obama…nah…couldn’t be…not with these free thinkers…
341 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 25, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Ahh yes, we shall soon slip into another era where stupidity runs rampant, but few will know it as such. Some scholars, or perhaps I should say most “scholars” will look at the events with deep joy in their hearts.
Lately I have been remodeling my apartment since some newer handicapped appropriate furniture will soon arrive. This in return has caused me to take gobs of time to sort out boxes under the bed which have given birth to mega-sized dust bunnies– since I rarely dare to journey into such dark places.
Oh, but the treasures I have found from numerous years ago, a time when the Clinton’s ruled the land. Not only my tapes from the radio days when I was general manger of a 1/24th watt college radio station, but more exciting my tapes from such wild satire as the Billy Clinton Radio Hour.
Folks, just when it seemed the darkest a light has appeared. There is some great satire coming down the pike and though the Obama era seems horrid, we can at least laugh. Who knows, maybe I will get audited by the IRS again. Yes, it really happened when I was a satirist political hack for the local LA area rag.
I forgot about the recordings since most of them were stolen out of my car in Albuquerque by some kid who thought he had ripped off some rock and roll tapes. It broke my heart, but some dumpster, someplace received the awards of my long studio hours.
Maybe I can get my computer set up with the studio gear I downloaded and go at it once more.
So don’t fear the darkness.
342 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I remember those days when we racked up comments by many different posters quickly, I just don’t remember how many posts there were past 300. That was back in the days of dial up for me, I remember when the threads got really long I would spend long periods of time staring at the monitor waiting…every time I made a comment it took a few minutes to reload. I think it is why I was gone for a while, my hours at work were increasing and there just wasn’t time to sit and stare while pages loaded s l o w l y.
Back to the latest twists on the BC issue. This is an interesting piece, I think the writer’s speculation is probably off base, and not somewhere I would go if I were writing the story, but the story’s details are worth the read.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1845/pub_detail.asp
Keep in mind Obamatons, how easily these lawsuits and speculation could be laid to rest. Berg is not a member of the VRWC. He is a loyal democrat, so don’t be so dismissive about the substance of the arguments. Good heavens no, we don’t want Biden any more than Obama, we are simply looking for the truth and if it turns out that he is qualified, good. But if he turns out to be ineligible it must be dealt with now.
Under normal circumstances I would agree that the veep-elect would take his place, but since all of these issues were brought up before the election, and the fact that no one looked for the truth, I personally think we would have to declare the entire election invalid. The DNC and the FEC could have demanded verification, they should have requested verification. They have failed to uphold the constitution and have not looked out for the interest of the American people. If Obama were my candidate I would want to be certain that he is legitimate. In fact, it angers me that this isn’t required at the time a candidate files for office, if it is in our constitution then it really must matter. Why should we not care about it? That is way easier to find in the constitution than abortion rights which seem to make it into the courts easily enough.
Apparently the constitution is like the word of God, you only read the parts you agree with and “clarify” the areas that you disagree with when someone brings them up. I guess on second though we can simply disregard whatever it says, what does it matter anyway?
343 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:03 pm
boober #336: You cherry picked the 20th Amendment, and your bud bl31u swore to it, but that is what you libs do best!
Here is Section 3 for everyone to read. With, “-Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified-” being the key reference. That does NOT automatically mean Biden will be President, only “acting President”!
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
344 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:38 pm
re#341 – (an ominous number to an airman while he is in USAF basic training) Some here fear the light!
345 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Let’s see, atheists fundamentalists can “be heavily involved in political activities”, agnostics can “be heavily involved in political activities”, wiccans can “be heavily involved in political activities”, liberal Jews can “be heavily involved in political activities”, Protestants who believe nothing “can be heavily involved in political activities, leftist “Christians” can “be heavily involved in political activities”, liberal Catholics can “be heavily involved in political activities, black Christians can “be heavily involved in political activities”, “moderate Muslims” can “be heavily involved in political activities”, those who worship sexual perversion can “be heavily involved in political activities”, your generic pagan can “be heavily involved in political activities” … but for some reason conservative Christians can’t be heavily involved in political activities.
Now what’s wrong with this picture and where in the Bible does it say traditional Jews and Christians shouldn’t be involved in political activities? Me thinks we are dealing with some self-righteous, double-standard, hoity-toity leftist bigots when they condemn Christians for having the unmitigated gall to “be heavily involved in political activities”. Look, it’s not like traditional Christians can’t do both, you know, serve God and be leaven amongst a “peverse and crooked generation.”
Marines have a very good day against
Muslim freedom fightersIslamofascists in Afghanistan.346 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:48 pm
… push
347 Darthmeister // Nov 25, 2008 at 7:52 pm
mnk,
About five years or so ago comment lines would occasionally reach into the 700 or 800s after about a week. There was at least one thread that went past a 1000! Rocky Mt. Lioness, Ms RightWing, RAM, Mack, camojack, Dr. Stuhl (who doesn’t post near enough here any more) and other long-timers remember those days!
348 RepublicanAttackMachine // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Dr. Harden Stuhl! WOW Darth, haven’t heard that name in a while. Would love to hear from him!
349 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Remember Baldo’s Wax for Balds? I think that was his name…
350 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:11 pm
There is a sign above the main entrance doors at a local nursing home that says, ” Live a good life. In the end it is not the number of years in a life that matters, but the life in the years.” Or it’s something really close to that anyway. An elderly retired pastor asked me to speak to a group of residents at that particular nursing home this coming Friday night. After accepting his offer I began to doubt that I could possibly have anything worthwhile to say to the seasoned residents there, I’m just a kid of 46 years. This home is one of my accounts that I service twice a week, I am usually there before breakfast is served and a few residents are sitting around the tables as I push a cart loaded with 36 gallons of milk toward the kitchen. I usually wonder what they are thinking about as they watch me passing through, probably envious of my youth I think to myself as I occasionally smile and say hello, or comment about the weather of the day.
I thought about the sign over the door and remembered a verse, James 4:14
“Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.” We have our three score and ten, more or less, what is that compared to the roughly 7000 years of recorded history? Truly, just a vapor, almost nothing in comparison. I thought of another verse, 2 Peter 3:8
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” Now we are getting some perspective here, all of recorded history’s years barely make up a week to God, that surely makes our vapor nothing more than a blink of an eye! Now I have some perspective pertaining to that sign!
My mind seems to make vapor and odor/incense synonymous, whether it is correct or not, I also thought of passages like this, Revelation 8:3
“And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.” So I think I will try to tie in living a life in a manner that is a pleasing “vapor of incense” before the Lord. So if they really desire to put a lot of life in their years they need to find a way to make it last a lot longer, say throughout all of eternity.
John 3:15
“That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
So unless God changes up my mind that is going to be my basic outline. Please pray that whatever I say will be profitable to the people there. I get nervous and my thoughts get all jumbled when speaking in public.
351 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:26 pm
snicker-
Bush should resign now.
Then Dick Cheney becomes President .
Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.
Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK – WOMAN President!!!
352 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:33 pm
BL31U – re #320 The religious right may not have been the best of ambassadors, but I don’t think too many here would nomniate you or your pals either.
It seems as though it is easier to sit on the sidelines of the battle and critique the soldiers than to wage a better war oneself. As the song goes, “It’s a battlefield brother, not a recreation room. It’s a fight and not a game.” No army has ever fought a flawless war, most are a series of mistakes that must be overcome in the end to gain the victory.
In my experience, those that are pointing out the flaws in the soldiers are ones that are looking for reasons not to help in the fight, I would rather fight with a flawed force than to let evil overtake our nation.
353 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Obama Forgery Exposed Dr. Polarik Video
354 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:38 pm
mig re #351 – I like it! BUt they would make the distinction of being the first elected black President.
355 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:40 pm
#288- The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama’s website http://www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be altered and forged.
356 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Proof of eligibility should be easy. I lost my copy of my birth certificate and I received a replacement by mail in about 10 days. The original is on file at the Wood Co.,WV courthouse. There are fingerprints and footprints to positively identify me on record as well. The only thing that makes any sense of this issue is that he cannot prove it.
357 mig // Nov 25, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own†country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,†but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship.
358 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Where are the ads from the sides of the page?
359 mindknumbed kid // Nov 25, 2008 at 11:56 pm
I think Senator Enzi is a good man, but this response is lame.
November 25, 2008
Dear Wayne:
There have been a number of questions regarding President-Elect Barack Obama and his legal eligibility to serve as President of the United States. He was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961 and his mother, Ann Dunham was born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas in 1942. Because he was born in the United States, he is considered a U.S. Citizen. During the 2008 Campaign there were a number of lawsuits filed in order to prove his citizenship. Legal challenges in Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, and Hawaii were filed and all but the one in Hawaii were dismissed. There are also lawsuits in Pennsylvania and Georgia which have been appealed and will be considered later this year.
I will continue to follow the outcomes of the remaining cases and keep your concerns in mind.
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns. I will continue to work for the people of Wyoming and the United States as a whole.
I want my constituents to have access to a more complete view of Congress and my activities so I have started a monthly e-newsletter. It is a brief summary of important issues and happenings. I encourage you to sign up on my web page at http://www.enzi.senate.gov. You can unsubscribe at anytime.
Sincerely,
Michael B. Enzi
United States Senator
360 Fred Sinclair // Nov 26, 2008 at 5:02 am
From Mikey’s Funnys this Morning.
BE THANKFUL…
Be thankful that you don’t already have everything you desire.
If you did, what would there be to look forward to?
Be thankful when you don’t know something,
for it gives you the opportunity to learn.
Be thankful for the difficult times.
During those times you grow.
Be thankful for your limitations,
because they give you opportunities for improvement.
Be thankful for each new challenge,
because it will build your strength and character.
Be thankful for your mistakes.
They will teach you valuable lessons.
Be thankful when you’re tired and weary,
because it means you’ve made a difference.
It’s easy to be thankful for the good things. A life of rich fulfillment comes to those who are also thankful for the setbacks.
Gratitude can turn a negative into a positive. Find a way to be thankful for your troubles, and they can become your blessings.
today’sTHOT============================
Where there is no wonder there is no worship.
361 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 8:16 am
More Change: Gettelfingers Bailout First strategy essentially turns union members into government workers – taxpayer money would be paying for those plush benefits. But union bosses are more than OK with that — after all, they have a cozy relationship with the Democratic Party, which will soon control both houses of Congress and the White House. Unions have ensured that the Obama administration will be friendlier than a tomcat in heat. The UAW leadership unanimously endorsed Obama for president, and the AFL-CIO spent $53.4 million to get him elected.
Obama has already signaled that he plans to strengthen Americas unions by introducing the card check program, which eliminates the secret ballot for workers in any union vote. This essentially allows union thugs to pressure non-union members into approving unions.
362 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:10 am
Bob #340,
BLU, I shudder to think why anyone might prefer Biden to Obama…nah…couldn’t be…not with these free thinkers…
I didn’t vote for Obama-Biden. But those who did must have felt comfortable that Biden could step in at a moment’s notice. I must admit, I’d rather have Sarah Palin than Joe Biden, but better to have a legitimate American as President than a “usurper”… (if he is one).
363 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:15 am
MKK #349,
Mr. Baldo even had his own blog for awhile… HERE.
364 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:27 am
Hawkeye, sure Joe would do. I’m just puzzled as to why you folks seem to be clamoring for him…
Palin would be better? Surely you jest
365 Fred Sinclair // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:43 am
I was trying to find the right word to describe a situation wherein we (America) know more about Sarah Palin’s husband in 30 days than we’ve learned about the man recently elected to be President of the United States in over TWO YEARS! I found several words that I thought should fill the bill.
THE RIGHT WORD
We call something absurd when it is utterly inconsistent with what common sense or experience tells us (: she found herself in the absurd position of having to defend the intelligence of a cockroach).
Ludicrous applies to whatever is so incongruous that it provokes laughter or scorn (: a ludicrous suggestion that he might escape unnoticed if he dressed up as a woman), and ridiculous implies that ridicule or mockery is the only appropriate response (: she tried to look younger, but succeeded only in making herself look ridiculous).
Foolish behavior shows a lack of intelligence or good judgment (: it was foolish to keep that much money under a mattress), while unreasonable behavior implies that the person has intentionally acted contrary to good sense (: his response was totally unreasonable in view of the fact that he’d asked for their honest opinion).
Preposterous should be reserved for those acts or situations that are glaringly absurd or ludicrous. For example, it might be unreasonable to judge an entire nation on the basis of one tourist’s experience and foolish to turn down an opportunity to visit that country on those grounds alone, but it would be preposterous to suggest that everyone who comes to the U.S. will be robbed at gunpoint.
absurd – (of an idea or suggestion) wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.
ludicrous – so foolish, unreasonable, or out of place as to be amusing.
incongruous – not in harmony or keeping with the surroundings or other aspects of something.
ridiculous – deserving or inviting derision or mockery.
unreasonable – not guided by or based on good sense.
foolish – (of a person or action) lacking good sense or judgment; unwise.
preposterous – contrary to reason or common sense; utterly absurd or ridiculous.
So we know more about Todd Mitchell Palin than we know about Barack Hussein Obama. 30 days vs over 2 years.
None of the six words really are appropriate, so I wrote it off to insanity and behold! It fit perfectly. Sort of a weird amalgamation of all six of the first words.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness • extreme foolishness or irrationality.
Over 50% of the Nation’s voters caught up in the throes of sub-liminal hypnosis, marched obediently to the polls and in their madness, voted for this unknown. Truly a grand scale performance of “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” – the inmates are running the asylum.
366 random // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:23 am
The unions are definitely pushing. The teamsters lost out big time when the trucking industry was deregulated. About the same time it came a good idea for a guy that knew how to drive a truck to buy one and if he was a decent businessman, be successful as an owner-operator. Owner operators and small trucking companies have played a viable part in the economy of this country.
Teamsters have been unsuccessful in organizing them as a whole. So then they tried to have ILA organize the port truckers. They too have been unsuccessful. Now comes the Obama Durbin Kennedy Bill, [official short title is `Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007']that will make it so that a trucking company cannot use their services as independent businessmen and women. They will become employees and can then be unionized. However, most likely be put out of business. Freight will then be hauled by company owned trucks with company drivers. The unions will then have a chance again. This bill was pushed by the unions. If it passes not only will cars cost more. Everything will cost more.
367 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:28 am
MKK#352
“The religious right may not have been the best of ambassadors, but I don’t think too many here would nomniate you or your pals either.â€
I can’t speak for my “palsâ€, but the difference for me chief is that I withhold CLAIMING to be an ambassador and if I did, I would be EXTREMELY careful how I represented myself knowing that by claiming myself as an ambassador I was representing my Christ to others!
I am not judging you as to your relationship or belief. It appears to me that you are very strongly committed.
My argument is with the religious right movement; the Jerry Falwells, who appear to have lost all sight of Jesus and acting just as the Pharisees. “To the Pharisee, keeping the law (both written and oral) was everything. The condition of a person’s heart towards God was unimportant.â€
You say: “In my experience, those that are pointing out the flaws in the soldiers are ones that are looking for reasons not to help in the fight,..â€
Oh really? What about Jesus?
Jesus condemned the Pharisees for being careful to appear righteous on the outside, while inside they were full of greed and wickedness.
“But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in…
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these things ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee….” (Matthew 23:13, 23:23-26)
Throughout His ministry, Jesus had told them the truth.
Such was their blindness and hardness of heart that, when God came to them, they did not know Him.
I can assure you, it is not me who is blind my friend. Make sure you aren’t either.
368 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:33 am
Tom Daschle (Toooooom Dashle) thinks the health industry should be modeled after the Federal Reserve… hardy har har.
369 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:42 am
re:358
Scott dropped a hint that if the tone of the comment section didn’t calm down he would remove the comment section. Though the tone has eased off a bit the paying ads have disappeared.
Conspiracy? I’m just saying–no I am just praying Scott doesn’t give up on us.
370 random // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:45 am
If the media couldn’t scrutinize the Obama man before
he was elected, why would they feel the drive to do so afterwards?
They won’t. They worked for his election. They will now work for his administration.
371 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:47 am
Every single Christian is an ambassador for Jesus Christ and anyone who denies that fact is a non-Christian.
372 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 12:16 pm
JL3, even those that would type such things as this…?
“It was offensive and only a disrespectful, disgusting, perverted piece of filth would think otherwise.â€
Way to go Mr. “Ambassador”…
373 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 12:25 pm
JL3,
I don’t think to deny that fact would make anyone “non-Christian”.
I think there are many believers out there and in here (myself included) who could do a far better job representing Christ. It’s not good enough to put a fish on your car, or just attend church on Sunday. MKK said it very well:
“but I do believe that if we were competent ambassadors for him many would desire to know him as their Lord simply because they would see Christ in us.â€
374 onlineanalyst // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Happy Thanksgiving all!
JCM: Be careful in NYC when you go to the Macy’s parade. The FBI has issued warnings re the subway system, and security forces are beefing up surveillance for suspicious activity.
The following tidbit posted at powerlineblog by Scott Johnson re the Eric Holder nomination for AG raises red flags about Lanny Davis (as if there aren’t plenty of reasons to be suspicious of him):
Last week when John Hinderaker appeared on Hannity & Colmes, he assumed the unaccustomed role of an innocent bystander to Lanny Davis shouting down Andrew McCarthy. McCarthy testified to the indefensible role played by presumptive Attorney General nominee Eric Holder in facilitating the outrageous pardon of Marc Rich by Bill Clinton.
Davis didn’t exactly scare off McCarthy, but he did prevent him from citing particulars in his case against Holder. “Tell it early, tell it all, tell it yourself,” Davis advises aspiring spinmeisters in his book on scandal management And don’t let the other side tell the truth if at all possible either.
The link to the Davis book is on the powerlineblog site.
For years too numerous to count, the modus operandi of the Dems has been to get ahead of the scandal (or defeat a perceived threat) by stating outrageous claims or diversionary accusations against the opposition party, by repeating the Big Lie until it becomes part of the media narrative, and being in the face of anyone who presents contrary supportive facts.
When and why did partisanship and seizure/maintenance of power trump statesmanship?
BTW Has anyone heard from or about Biden? Is he still trying to locate the defunct Katie’s restaurant, or is he at Home Depot, stocking up on tire guages? Has he wired his phone to the White House in anticipation of those 3 am calls, sure to come –”Mark my words!”– within six months?
Are the Obama appointments shaping up to be Carter v2, Clinton v2, or Bush v2? How much deeper will our progeny be indebted to China after all of these bailouts? After all, Obama was impressed by the Potemkin-village infrastructure when he attended the Olympics in China.
375 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“How much deeper will our progeny be indebted to China after all of these bailouts? ”
Did Obama take ownership of all large banks/insurance companies or was that another President? Oh yeah, it was that other guy…George something…
376 Hawkeye // Nov 26, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Bob #364,
I’m not “clamoring” so much for Joe Biden to be President as I am for Obama to prove beyond all doubt that he is indeed a native-born American and thus qualifies to be POTUS. It’s a reasonable request I think.
“And stop calling me Shirley.”
377 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I stand by my comment #371 and the responses to it are proof.
378 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 2:57 pm
That’s why I’m thankful my salvation doesn’t come from you.
379 onlineanalyst // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Obama Names Bill Clinton to Presidential Post
380 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Surely you jest….
381 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:51 pm
OLA, now that’s funny!
382 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Obamas Use of Complete Sentences Stirs Controversy Stunning Break with Last Eight years
In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack
Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eight
years through his controversial use of complete sentences, political
observers say.
Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama’s appearance on
CBS’ “Sixty Minutes” on Sunday witnessed the president-elect’s
unorthodox verbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically
correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.
But Mr. Obama’s decision to use complete sentences in his public
pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last
eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University
of Minnesota, some Americans might find it “alienating” to have a
President who speaks English as if it were his first language.
“Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in
agreement,” says Mr. Logsdon. “If he keeps it up, he is running the
risk of sounding like an elitist.”
The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete
sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, “Okay,
subject, predicate, subject predicate – we get it, stop showing off.”
The President-elect’s stubborn insistence on using complete
sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest
critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
“Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a
way that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder
can’t really do there, I think needing to do that isn’t tapping into
what Americans are needing also,” she said.
383 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Does that mean “nookular” is also gone?
Say it isn’t so!
I almost forgot the right way to pronounce it…
384 BlackLion31U // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:49 pm
you betchya
Say it ain’t so Joe
385 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 4:58 pm
One might think that in 8 years someone could have pulled George aside real quick and just mentioned how silly it sounds when he pronounces it wrong…but nooooo
386 boberinyetagain // Nov 26, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Happy Thanksgiving folks!
387 gafisher // Nov 26, 2008 at 7:03 pm
For an outsider’s view of the Obama recession, check out this article in Izvestia, an interview with a Russian analyst who says the only thing holding the U.S. together now is the false hope that Obama can do what he promised. By late next spring, he says, we’ll know otherwise and the nation will begin to collapse. Fascinating stuff, whether or not you believe it.
388 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 26, 2008 at 8:04 pm
re:385
Bob, it seems like your looking for a fight today. Now you know I generally don’t get between you and your thoughts, but gee wilikers aren’t you being rather testy today.
The way I see it, you should be a happy man, what with Barack winning the elections and the Democrats in general holding down a lot of seats. If I was a Democrat I would be jubilant.
Has George, er, still president Bush said something to you today that got your goat. First the comment about the bank and insurance companies—ya really think George did that all on his own with absolutely no help from the Democrats in congress?
Then his rendition of Nuclear. Do you know how silly some of the southern people in the legislative branch sound to us Yankees and vice a versa. I don’t think President (still) Bush needs to change his vocabulary to suit us. He has ruled over the greatest nation on earth and his pronunciation (problem), has not brought impeachment proceedings yet.
In a few hours it will be Thanksgiving. Use it wisely. Be thankful that in our country few are starving, though many may be hungry, Be thankful the Salvation Army, along with thousands of other churches across the land are insuring that all who wish, can partake in Thanksgiving.
Yes we have the poor among us. I live way below the poverty line but last I looked I have plenty of what I need, not an abundance of what I want.
Most of all I have my Scrapple family, you included, and especially Scott to give us a forum to practice free speech.
So take it easy and don’t nitpick so much, you are bigger than that. I quietly resign from saying any more because my argument is not with you as a person. It just seems like your kicking hard at the Scrapple page for some reason.
Happy Thanksgiving one and all
389 gafisher // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Re “If I was a Democrat I would be jubilant.”
I wonder, Ms. RW, Ink. It’s easy to quarterback from the stands, but now that they’ve got the White House and both houses of Congress they really have no excuse for not keeping all those wonderful promises. I think if I was a Democrat I’d lay low for a few years.
390 Newsman // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:44 pm
An amusing tongue in cheek article BlackLion31U about Obama’s way of speaking. Made me
smile
391 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 9:58 pm
So, basically, BHO is now atop a rabid pyramid of Leftists, Clinton-worshipers and various schizophrenic specimens, all of whom are overcome with the insatiable lust for power. An undulating mass of vipers or rotting corpses or something gnawing on itself.
They’re sucking The United States of America into a black hole—the black hole of Godlessness where the slippery slope is better described as a free-fall.
I thank Almighty God that I’ve made it to another Thanksgiving, that my wife still loves me and that my children and grandchildren are doing okay. And I thank God for the Hope He energizes me with through the Holy Spirit.
God Bless You and Yours
God Bless America
392 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Harry Reid (D-Moon) threatens another Donk powergrab, vis a vis the Demoncrat-controlled Senate, if Minnesota doesn’t unilaterally declare al Franken the winner.
Well, what do you expect from closet fascists?
Blacklion, how much do you want to bet your Obamessiah isn’t using a teleprompter during those apparently “spontaneous” moments when he’s speaking before cameras?
The real, ever articulate, Obama. Of course his fawning acolytes ignore all these pathetic gaffes and bloopers (much less the lies he’s told as documented here at Scrappleface) … and any he may make in the future.
Don’t be naive, Blacklion, you don’t actually think for one minute the sycophantic national socialist media will ever go out of its way to publicly document Obamessiah’s gaffes, now do you? Since the election of your messiah, the NSM, in this case CNN, has started calling the mission in Iraq a “humanitarian mission.” I know, I know, but it’s still a positive spin that was NEVER used during all the individual “humanitarian efforts” in Iraq during Bush’s administration.
And therein will always be your problem, Blacklion, having your blinkered fantasies validated by a liberal media that will be foisting the pretty flowers and rainbows upon the sheeple on your side of the aisle over the next four years. I mean, where else are you going to get any “real news” but from a thoroughly biased NSM, from liberal bloggers you just also happen to agree with? Yeah, right.
Now take the blue pill and go back to sleep, Obama will take care of everything and when you wake up you’ll be living in a liberal utopia … after all The One promised to “change the world”.
393 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Election Day is 1285 days away.
394 Darthmeister // Nov 26, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Ms RightWing,
Given the Demoncrats will soon control the Executive branch, have controlled the Legislative branch the last two years, presently enjoying a balance of power in the Judicial branch, and this compounded by the fact Demoncrats are also in complete control of the People’s Republic of Illinois as well as the county AND the municipality in which I live, if I’m not living in a worker’s paradise in the next two years I’m going to sue the Demoncratic Party for political fraud.
I mean, with all those wonderful, smart, and compassionate Democrats allegedly working for “the good of the people” throughout their ranks, wouldn’t one expect at least a little bit of heaven on earth by now – not to mention the full-blown version by the end of Mr. Obama’s first term? I’m still wondering when Mr. Obama and other fat cat redistributionist Democrats will start spreading some of their wealth to me.
395 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:29 pm
But for Democrats, the bidding is fierce. Three years ago, a Democratic staff director for an important House or Senate committee might have earned about $130,000 a year on Capitol Hill, and jumped to K Street for an annual salary of about $250,000. Now, the same person might command as much as $500,000 to $800,000 a year, several recruiters said.
For an industry that prefers to talk about selling policy expertise and sophisticated arguments, the turnabout is a stark reminder that what clients want are personal connections. “People who need to get something done know what the price of a drink is,†Mr. Metzger said. “This may sound terribly Washington, but access trumps expertise.â€
Some have begun to wonder if elected Democrats, flush with a level of power the Republicans experienced a few years ago, would now emulate the K Street Project by encouraging corporations and trade groups to hire fellow Democrats instead of Republicans.
“It wouldn’t surprise me if they do,†said Leon E. Panetta, a former Democratic representative from California and chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, “because the name of the game is money, and the fact is they still largely depend on lobbyists for the money to bulk up their campaigns.â€
-NYT
396 mig // Nov 26, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Oh I’m sorry fellow scrapplers… That last post was about lobbyist. I think it’s past my bed time. See y’all later, Happy Thanksgiving. So many things to be Thankful for.
397 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 9:16 am
This just arrived in my inbox. Has anybody else heard anything about this? If something like this should happen, I wonder how much aid we could expect from other countries – especially those we have helped in the past?
Subj: MASSIVE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EARTHQUAKE IS PREDICTED FOR THIS FRIDAY
Date: 11/27/2008 12:54:57 AM Eastern Standard Time
Dear Friends,
Please read this link and see what you think. If this earthquake happens, most food will probably be gone from the stores by Saturday.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=136669
God Bless You, and it may be wise for all of us to be prepared.
William Star
398 onlineanalyst // Nov 27, 2008 at 9:47 am
True contentment comes from realigning our perspective– especially in an age of economic downturn. There is some timely advice in this commentary.
Let us give thanks. We have abundant lives here in America, even among our most destitute. We share willingly with the needy without the coercion of the government. We extend a helping hand across the globe.
Let us pray for the oppressed and suffering in nations caught under the jackboot of greedy, power-mad tyrants. Let us pray for the victims of terrorist zealots and for the zealots themselves that they may see the evil of their ways. Let us pray for those whose lives have been destroyed by natural disasters.
Let us pray for our troops stationed around the world guarding the freedoms and security of humanity. Let us pray for those that give succor to the grieving and helpless.
Happy Thanksgiving!
399 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 am
Ummm, Friday is the 28th on my calendar. Well at least THIS Friday is…
Life,liberty, and the pursuit of HAPPINESS…
Just wanting to wish everyone a happy day of giving of thanks. I would hope that your thanks will to God, at least on this Thanksgiving day. If happiness is your goal in this short life the necessity of being thankful cannot be overlooked. The more thankful you become, the more happiness you will find in your life.
America is becoming progressively less happy nation as a whole because it is not thankful. I am not sure that we will become a more thankful people unless we reconcile ourselves with God, but as an individual YOU can CHANGE and if you will you will become a happier, healthier person. You can also impact your friends with this message of thanksgiving. Is a nation’s collective happiness important? Think on it during this Thanksgiving Day and decide for yourself.
I think America’s great need is to be thankful.
400 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:22 am
Ms RightWing – What are you doing today? Was it last year on Thanksgiving that you went tho the buffet restaurant where Rex Humbard used to go, or was that Easter? Time sure flies these days…
Someday I would like to have you as a guest for a holiday dinner, what would you say to that?
401 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:23 am
Oh, and that was 400 teenth !
402 mindknumbed kid // Nov 27, 2008 at 10:39 am
If you claim Christ as your Savior, then you indeed are an ambassador. To not understand the fact that you are doesn’t make you not a Christian, but it does make you a poor witness for him, and we are all supposed to be witnesses. Christianity will rise or fall in a nation based on our obedience to the Holy Spirit’s prompting. Heretofore I have sinned in that I have been guilty of quenching it more often than heeding it. I don’t want to remain unaffective any longer as a Christian, God help us all to get this nation back to Him.
403 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:44 am
Just to clarify:
I agree that, “To not understand the fact that you are doesn’t make you not a Christian…..” et cetera.
There is a vast distinction, though, from the deniers I was [too briefly, obviously] defining—those who are repulsed by even the tiniest atomized droplet of Biblical milk.
I would never define seekers or new believers as deniers (the morally bankrupt [a Biblical definition of fools] who know God’s Word and yet deny even its very basic Truths).
404 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:45 am
Possible terrorist threat???
Read about it here:
http://nygoe.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/nyc-thanksgiving-terror-threat/
Dan Maloney
NY State Coordinator
Gathering of Eagles
405 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:48 am
Obama — actually faced with governing – seems now to understand the complex legal questions Bush grappled with. Bush wasn’t so evil after all. And running for and governing as president are two different things. But don’t expect the Obama-loving media to notice or care.
You are right OLA… Pray for those in Mumbai, India. My husbands co-workers that were there for special training, Thank God, had gotten on a plane yesterday before the mayhem. I also thank God that my husbands’ schedule kept him from participating in that training group.
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
406 Ms RightWing, Ink // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:54 am
re:400
MNK
That was Easter. I ended up at Truck Stops of America because the help was so rude at the now, Rev Angley’s (sp) In the Name of Jeeeessssuuuusss Cafe ( no religious smear intended). They herd you in like cattle and then tried to split up my friends family. TSA treated us like guests. I will go there again on Easter.
Today I am on a mission of sorts. For those in our building who have no place to go I am making sloppy joes, cookies, coffee and hot chocolate. I have no idea how many are coming, but I am prepared.
Since I can no longer go out into the community to help, this is my little thing to do.
Anytime you have the coffee pot on I may show up, though I told CAT the same thing, but never got there. Every hot deal for traveling fell through.
To all, Happy Thanksgiving!
407 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Great stuff from Family Security Matters:
On a deadly serious note, reality bites.
Nothing clarifies the mind like a jihadi boomerang.
Next thing you know, they’ll rediscover the facts that detainees have systematically lied and exaggerated stories about mistreatment at Gitmo.
Funny, when President Bush and his homeland security team realized these very realities seven years ago, they were branded terrorists and hounded relentlessly by Congress, the media and the left.
Viva la Hope and Change!
408 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Sorry, no excuses, It’s Michelle Malkin but I was reading it at Family Security Matters…
409 mig // Nov 27, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Appointments in the Obama Administration,
Leaders of “the endarkenment.”
Chief of Staff: Rahm Emanuel
Commerce Secretary: Bill Richardson
Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS): Tom Daschle
Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano
Communications Director: Ellen Moran
Likely appointees include:
Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton
Secretary of the Interior: Raúl M. Grijalva
HHS committee- Dr. R. Alta Charo
410 gafisher // Nov 27, 2008 at 8:26 pm
That’s “change,” mig (Re#409), from promise to reality. Hey Presto …
411 Fred Sinclair // Nov 27, 2008 at 8:41 pm
President Bush has a couple of things going for him that is deliberately being ignored by the Liberal Left Wing Mainstream Media.
After the terrorist attack on America (09/11/01) he took off the gloves (so to speak) and committed himself to total concentration on his #1 job responsibility as President (and no, he hasn’t been perfect in all the things that he did) the Security of the Nation is his prime responsibility and for over seven years America has been spared a repeat of further Muslim terrorist’s attacks on our Homeland.
Side issues have pretty much been left on the side. Faults are not in short supply, nor are they back ordered. Illegal immigration/amnesty – he flunked; Use of the VETO to stop tsunami type spending and “pork barrel” projects – he flunked; ethical handling of the Border Patrol Guards (still in prison) – he flunked; and the list could go on and on and on.
On National Security (as he saw it) – he never wavered. The actual number of terrorist’s plots that were foiled we may never know, but from what did get reported, I’m sure there were many. All this while having to work with his alphabet services filled with embedded socialists moles (from prior administrations) digging in their heels at every turn, trying to bring about his downfall.
So far (to date) he has been an exemplary success in carrying out his #1 prime duty. He wasn’t in the office of the Presidency to try and win some popularity contest. His “approval rating” of 28% only serves to prove that his approval is in excess of three times that of Congress at 9% – If this were “American Idol” it would be different but I suspect that President Bush’s interest in his “approval rating” is on par with that of a rolling donut.
What with the shameful 9% approval rating of Congress, it should be a subject of study in every Psychology 101 classroom. These critters in Congress are supposed to be running a popularity contest. How 91% of the people think they are a complete flop and yet keep sending them back election after election is way and far beyond my comprehensive ability to understand.
Perhaps if “The Fonz” showed up as a real person. They would send him/her to Congress, because setting aside the fact that he/she possesses no credentials, job resume or any other factors that would recommend him/her for the job, “The Fonz” or “The Fonzette” is above all things – “Cool”.
As a postulation that might account for Mr. B. Hussein Obama’s recent victory could be that a bit over half of the voters saw him as being a modernized version of “The Fonz”; and possessing no credentials, job resume or any other factors that would recommend him for the job (like a genuine Birth Certificate?) he was viewed as being “Mr. Cool” – now, all we have to do is wait for his “jumping the shark” moment.
While President Bush is far removed from being a “great” President, he is, and has been to the best of his limited abilities, a “good” President.
412 Newsman // Nov 27, 2008 at 11:48 pm
“(like a genuine Birth Certificate?)”
Prove it with pure facts – no baloney or implying this or that. Facts that would hold up in a court of law !
413 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 10:59 am
BREAKING NEWS:
BHO Resigns Rather Than Display Birth CertificateTens of millions dance in streets worldwide
[JL3rdNews - Earth] Yes! It’s true. No kidding. Honest.
414 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 11:14 am
Amen, Newsman Re#412! This Constitutional requirement should have been dealt with long ago. The persistent refusal of the Obama campaign to do so — with what you rightly describe as “Facts that would hold up in a court of law” — casts a shadow which will make any Bill, Treaty or Executive Order signed by ex-Senator Obama merely provisional until his legitimacy is proved.
Putting this question to rest should be the work of a few minutes; dodging the issue like a guilty schoolboy just feeds the fires of doubt.
415 Newsman // Nov 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm
gafisher – my comment is addressed to Fred Sinclair and any others who question the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certifucate.
We do not normally question a fellow American’s birth certificate in this country. Anyone ever questions yours ?
I think you would be a little put out if someone questioned your right to citizenship, assuming you were born in the US or of a mother who was/is a US citizen.
416 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 2:23 pm
BHO has not presented his birth certificate so, the truth is, there is, actually, nothing to question in that regard, this is true.
What is in question is BHO’s citizenship.
FactCheck.org is no more a reliable source of such evidence than Wikipedia or somebody’s alleged granny in the first place, and I saw nothing the least bit convincing there, anyway (the oft-linked-to attempted sleight-of-hand has been there for a while now).
417 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I ran across this while rifling Oahu’s birth certificate archive.
418 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Newsman Re#415 — Yes, in fact my birth certificate has been required of me several times, as have those of my wife and children.
I had to produce mine to obtain a U.S. passport, and my wife and kids need theirs every time we visit friends in Canada. I had to overnight my youngest son’s to him a couple of months ago so he could take part in a missions trip to Mexico (he helped build a school). It’s actually quite common to need a legally certified copy of one’s birth certificate, and very easy to comply.
Since it’s required by the Law of the Land, I am not in the least offended or inconvenienced.
Obama could put this issue to rest in less than a day, unless it’s true.
419 gafisher // Nov 28, 2008 at 5:50 pm
JL3 Re#417 — If you expand the photo you can see evidence it might be fake. It appears to actually be Little Minnie’s certificate with the name altered.
A “certified” certificate bears a seal or impress similar to being notarized; this can’t be verified in an online photo (as demonstrated by the doctored document which once graced the Obama website) but I’m sure the Secretaries of State would accept verification by a qualified impartial panel. On the other hand, it may well be that the proper authorities in Hawaii would be willing to supply and distribute sufficient certified copies for each state that needs one.
420 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm
You shouldn’t be too cornfuzzed with the issue of proof of citizenship, it isn’t racket science (misspelling intended). Instead of using legal maneuvers to avoid answering these lawsuits, we are wondering why he simply does not comply with proof that would end (END, get it?) all doubt and speculation. I thought it would be Obama’s “October surprise” to produce his undisputed evidence of citizenship, that would have discredited everyone who was raising the issue, and would have been a HUGE shot in his campaign’s arm. I think that is why no one is wanting to touch it, if Rush were to take up the matter and then Obama produced his proof it would greatly damage his credibility, if that isn’t why Obama is holding out I cannot think of any reason for it to remain an issue. I am sick of it all, I say either prove yourself now, or resign. What does it take to see action taken these days?
421 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:20 pm
newsman – They first questioned his citizenship because of some inconsistencies that indicate he may not have been born in the US, which IS a requirement. All that was requested was verification. Posting an alleged birth certificate on a website does not constitute proof.
Enough obfuscation, I am entitled to proof as a citizen that he meets that constitutional requirement, when there is doubt – let the facts bear it out.
Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I truly am frustrated by it all, seeing as it is so EASILY put to rest.
422 Fred Sinclair // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:28 pm
What I consider an interesting tidbit came in my e-mail today – Rush read this on his Wednesday program, word for word…..
Question
What does the following have in common?
Louisiana Purchase
The New Deal
The Marshal Plan
The Korean War
The race to the moon
NASA
The Vietman War
The S&L crises
The Iraq invasion
The TOTAL cost for all of these government programs in todays dollars is LESS !!!!!
—- YES THATS LESS— than the amount of money that Congress wants to spend to bail out and stimulate the economy. A CRISES THEY CAUSED IN THE FIRST PLACE!
What a wonderful bunch of Idiots we have running our Government.
423 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:31 pm
re#406 – That is great. One of the areas I have quenched the Holy Spirit in is His leading to host a dinner for anyone in the community who does not have family to be with during the Thanksgiving ,Christmas, and Easter holidays. I was given that idea at least 3 years ago and not done a thing to make it happen. Make an excuse, just put it off ( I have a master’s degree in procrastiology) and then I don’t have to wrestle with it for another year. Perhaps I will eventually get as sick of myself as God probably is. Now next year…
424 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Fred – I was told that the government could give every FAMILY in America ONE MILLION DOLLARS each and spend less than what they are proposing on these bailouts. I haven’t done the math, but if that is true, what in the world is going on around here?
425 Fred Sinclair // Nov 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
I was just thinking of how wonderfully blessed I am to have Scott and through him and his blog, so many friends I have come to know.
Some are ‘distant’ friends from all over the USofA and some ‘close’ friends who have come to my home, to meet in person; or developed a ‘close’ friendship bwo emails. Thank you Scott.
Then the following was emailed to me today. I read it with a joyful heart, totally understanding the meaning involved….
REAL FRIEND TEST!
This is GOOD… I especially like the last sentence!!!!!!
A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.
A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself and doesn’t feel even the least bit weird shutting your ‘Coke drawer’ with a foot!
A simple friend has never seen you cry.
A real friend shoulder is soggy from your tears..
A simple friend doesn’t know your parents’ first names.
A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book.
A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party.
A real friend comes early to help you cook and
stays late to help you clean.
A simple friend hates it when you call after they’ve gone to bed.
A real friend asks you why you took so long to call.
A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.
A real friend seeks to help you with your problems.
A simple friend wonders about your romantic history.
A real friend could blackmail you with it!
A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have
an argument. A real friend calls you after you had a fight.
A simple friend expects you to always be there for them.
A real friend expects to always be there for you!
When you are down to nothing … God is up to something.
‘Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.
426 mindknumbed kid // Nov 28, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Pray as I attempt to minister to the folks at the nursing home tonight.
427 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
“…..NEVER kill a customer.” ~~Gilberto
428 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 12:00 am
Life is a crisis, Christ is the only solution.
429 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 29, 2008 at 7:31 am
As presumptive President-elect BHO continues to promulgate the politics-as-usual facade (as a cover for the far more nefarious [and you thought it couldn't possibly get any lower than that, right?] motivations of his choreographers), I would like to thank President George W. Bush for lowering gas prices.
430 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:37 am
The brilliant Mark Steyn sees the forest.
431 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:51 am
Tre(e)s bien, OLA — Steyn is always worth reading.
432 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:57 am
JL3 Re#429, I’d like to thank President George W. Bush for holding back the barbarians for eight years. [Here] is a partial list. Print it as a keepsake; most of it is about to be burned while Nerobama fiddles.
433 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:45 pm
VDH offers some compelling reasons why President Bush may come to be viewed favorably when seen through the Obama prism. VDH calls the Obama campaign a bait-and-switch by a masterful politician. We shall see if he will become a masterful executive.
434 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:56 pm
So we have done the right thing and elected Obama but there are still Muslims engaging in acts of jihad? What’s up with that? We have won in Iraq, yet the terrorists still strike random targets around the globe? The war isn’t over, far from it. The only hope for civilized free societies is that we continue to unite and fight until civilization is delivered from the grips of radical Islamic jihad-loving terrorists. Time to renew our commitments, our strength, our purpose and resolve! Who will lead the cause?
435 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 3:59 pm
ola – I can’t get the last link to function.
436 mindknumbed kid // Nov 29, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I just started a nasty internet rumor that the reason Scott Ott is awol from scrappleface is that he has been in meetings with Obama for a possible high level cabinet position…
437 onlineanalyst // Nov 29, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Try this direct link for the VDH piece:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTBiODZmZDJhMzcwNzVmZDgzZmNlNmM5NzIxMjYyZGE=
Maybe we all need to pony up some money via Paypal for the Scrappleface fund.
BTW Chris “Tingle in my leg” Matthews was approaching Obama’s team for support in a possible run for a PA senatorial seat. I think that it is time to begin a draft Scott Ott for that position. It’s a win-win. We defeat Matthews, for sure and get rid of Arlen Specter.
Scrappleface is read nationally. The support and campaign funds would flow.
The downside is that we would lose our favorite news satirist.
(I do hope that everything is well at the Ott household.)
438 Fred Sinclair // Nov 29, 2008 at 6:24 pm
A truly great plan – wish I’d thought of it!
You know what would really TICK OFF the Democrats… ?
Bush should resign now.
Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really TICK OFF the liberals)!!!
Then he appoints Condoleezza Rice as Vice President.
Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleezza Rice, A Republican,
becomes the first BLACK President and the first WOMAN President !!!*
439 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:53 pm
That would deflate a lot of lefty hot air, Fred, but I think all three — Bush, Cheney and Rice — have far too much respect for the Presidency to play games with it.
440 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 8:57 pm
mkk Re#434 — anyone who thinks our enemies wanted Obama as our Commander in Chief has spent too much time playing politically correct kindergarten games. The reason you want your opponents to have a weak leader is to make it easier to beat them.
441 gafisher // Nov 29, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Er, anyone who thinks our enemies wanted Obama as our Commander in Chief because then we could just get along … etc.
Sorry.
442 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm
It has occurred to me that perhaps the recent barbarism in Mumbai was [in a really sick way] a dress rehearsal. Those murderous imbeciles could easily wreak the same havoc on several fronts simultaneously in multiple cities throughout the world.
I pray to God that BHO hasn’t bitten off more than he can chew.
443 mig // Nov 30, 2008 at 7:57 am
Newsman- On the Subject of the Birth Certificate- It may not be the subject of interest that it is if a forged Birth Certificate hadn’t been posted. Why would a forgery be posted?
Onward Christian Soldiers-
Heritage Foundation is coming out with a DVD called 33minutesfilm: …tells the story of the very real threat that hostile nations and rogue dictators now pose to every one of us. The truth is brutal: no matter where on the earth a missile is launched from, it would take 33 minutes or less to hit the U.S. target it was programmed to destroy. We must cause people to stop and face this horrible reality.
cc: mental vault- an olympic sport for some posters here.
444 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 12:29 pm
On a lighter note, meet Bill Lepp:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5435852
On a heavier note,”We must cause people to stop and face this horrible reality.” It doesn’t help that we just elected Barack Hussein Obama. Being just 33 minutes from change is enough, Biden said he would be tested, pray that he can somehow pass the test. Global Jihadist do exist and they are committed to the cause of conquering the world to bring it into submission to Allah. Fortunately Jesus Christ as Creator is Lord of all creation and when the battle is over the saints will be casting crowns at his feet! Not Allah, or Obama, or some suave antichrist that has been empowered by the god of this world to attempt a desperate military coo.
Praise God, Jesus Christ is Lord from the beginning and throughout all of Eternity!!!
445 mig // Nov 30, 2008 at 1:57 pm
“Norma McCorvey’s testimony is a incredible example of God’s redeeming grace. I commend Norma for her courage to speak out on the evils of abortion and pray that her redemptive story will touch hearts and change minds.â€
446 JamesonLewis3rd // Nov 30, 2008 at 6:59 pm
God Bless You and Yours
God Bless America
447 RedPepper // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Some Indian authorities are now claiming that Lashkar-e-Taiba is responsible for the 60-hour terrorist seige of Mumbai.
Article here.
Wikipedia article here. Often referred to, in short, as LeT , the Urdu name of the group is commonly translated as Army of the Righteous.
Like a number of other Islamic militant groups in this region (including the Taliban), LeT is thought to have been created and sustained by elements of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Agency.
LeT is noted for its brutality and savage indifference to human life.
A tradition that, it seems, has been followed in the recent attacks : article here.
448 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:21 pm
First proof to verify my internet rumor.
In today’s headlines:
Obama turns to friends, foes for White House posts…
449 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:24 pm
“LeT is noted for its brutality and savage indifference to human life.” – Allah must be pleased with them…tis a peaceful religion you know
450 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:26 pm
RedPepper, where have you been? Good to see you back in these parts again!
451 mindknumbed kid // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Other headlines of interest:
Sex invariably spells trouble, says Dalai Lama AFP – Fri Nov 28, 2:39 PM ET
LAGOS (AFP) – The Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual and temporal leader, on Friday said sex spelt fleeting satisfaction and trouble later, while chastity offered a better life and “more freedom.”
Bra for the boys an online bestseller in Japan Reuters – Mon Nov 24, 10:04 AM ET
TOKYO (Reuters) – Who said bras are only for women? A Japanese online lingerie retailer is selling bras for cross-dressing men and they’ve quickly become one of its most popular items.
452 onlineanalyst // Nov 30, 2008 at 8:50 pm
This is what happens when you have the spouses of the Obama administration running these news shows!
Susan Rice, Obama’s senior policy adviser and a member of Obama’s ‘tansition team’ will become the new face of US at UN.
She is married to Ian Cameron, the new Executive Producer of This Week with George Stephanopoulos.
******
SEE HOW THIS WORKS?!!! Have you seen ABC ‘NEWS’ DISCLOSE ANYWHERE THIS CONNECTION TO OBAMA?!
Ian Cameron has been named executive producer of ABC News This Week with George Stephanopoulos, ABC News President David Westin announced today. In this role Mr. Cameron will oversee production and editorial content of the Sunday morning public affairs show.
453 RedPepper // Nov 30, 2008 at 10:29 pm
mkk #450: … good to see you, too.
454 Fred Sinclair // Nov 30, 2008 at 11:27 pm
As it is, there are some (like myself) who believe the Bible is God’s Word.
Unfortunately (for them) there are others who don’t.
I think the key lies in Paul’s first letter to the Church in Corinth it also may account for the existence of liberals i.e. “The Cult of Godlessness” Paul writes, “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God..” 1st Corinthians 1:18 [KJV]
In his letter to the Church in Rome Paul writes,”Rom. 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” That includes Stalin, Hitler, Amin, Castro, Reid, Pelosi and most all of those supporting the liberal agenda, etc. “every knee shall bow” and that excludes no one! (for the ladies I imagine a curtsy equals a bow).
Even our esteemed resident trolls will bow the knee. According to The Word, their showing up with all too little – all too late and for having rejected God and His free gift of Salvation, are condemned to spend all of eternity with satan (formerly known as Lucifer) If the Biblical description of hell, hades, the pit, the lake of fire, etc. is accurate as we Christians believe, they aren’t going to like it one bit.
In the hymn “Amazing Grace” there is the phrase “When we’ve been there ten thousand years…” Our pastor at the time said that when it was written, ten thousand was a really big number but today we toss around figures like million and billion so from then on, we sang that line “When we’ve been there ten trillion years…” Ten trillion years in Heaven is one thing, but ten trillion years in Hades with no time off for good behavior, no gain time, no parole, etc and then a trillion to the trillionth power more to go and even then – just getting started.
My finite mind cannot even begin to grasp such numbers, so I won’t even try, instead I will rest with the assurance of God’s Word that, in believing, I have been saved by Grace, through faith and that not of myself, it is a gift of God and “…not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Eph. 2:8,9)
455 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 12:09 am
Time on this earth is regulated via the movement of the earth within our solar system. Time is our enemy in this life, we are subject to it. But once this earth is scrapped and the Son is the light in Heaven, time will be of none effect. Therefore it is my belief that eternity will not be measured in years. Our human minds are incapable of comprehending life outside of the constraints of time.The word of God says in 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. I believe this verse best reflects the fact that God is not bound by time as we are as humans. I prefer to to change the words to Amazing Grace to “when we’ve been there forevermore”, being released from the constraints of time is going to be one of the “best” parts of Heaven, I think.
456 Fred Sinclair // Dec 1, 2008 at 2:09 am
mkk #455 (455? Wow!) I was using the world’s measure of time to make a point. I agree with you totally (100%). In fact in the book of Psalms it is recorded “Psa. 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.”
So it’s not impossible that God views the Crucifixion of Jesus as an event that happened the day before yesterday and although Jesus returned for a period of forty days and was see and heard by many – “Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:” Jesus was living on our earthly timeline, while God was on a Celestial timeline (where there is no timeline, thus allowing Him to see the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning) at the same time.
457 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 7:35 am
OLA!
Well, I suppose we can now look forward to 8 years of good press and that will convince us that Obama is a World Class Act much like the Press has convinced a nation and the world that Bush was completley incompetent.
Checking my safety belt to be sure I can survive impact.
458 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 am
Warner Todd Huston nails it over at RedState:
[emphasis mine]
459 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Fred #454. The arrogance of your position is astounding, if not particularly surprising. If there is one glaring constant between Christianity and Islam, it is the false humility that is so readily evident in the veiled glee with which adherents consign infidels/heretics to eternal doom.
It’s interesting how similar the world’s religions actually are, and even more interesting how rarely this fact actually occurs to their respective participants.
460 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Thanks to Letty:
The global HIV industry is too big and out of control. We have created a monster with too many vested interests and reputations at stake, … too many relatively well paid HIV staff in affected countries, and too many rock stars with AIDS support as a fashion accessory,” he wrote in the British Medical Journal in May. Here
461 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Infidels/heretics send themselves to eternal doom—the only glee is in the elitist spin of the Godless.
462 Newsman // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Hey mindknumbedkid, you say “We have won in Iraq”
Sheesh, couldn’t prove that by me as young American soldiers are still being killed and bombs are still blowing up cars, people and buildings.
463 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:43 pm
JL3, an incisive and thoughtful point, as usual.
464 gafisher // Dec 1, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Newsman Re#462: In Iraq we’ve restored the rights of millions, closed the rape rooms and torture chambers, brought true democratic elections and seen a true democratic government elected, restored farms to farmers, businesses to business people, and homes to their owners; in fact, property rights in general have been restored. Members of government are now accountable to the citizens, the economy is stable, and Iraq is no longer a threat to its neighbors.
No, we haven’t ended violence in Iraq, though Washington D.C. and Chicago are more dangerous.
465 gafisher // Dec 1, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Godfrey Re#459, If there is one glaring difference between Christianity and Islam it is that the first is based on grace while the second, like all false religions, is based on works. This explains how similar the world’s non-Christian religions actually are, and the perhaps even more interesting point of how rarely this fact actually occurs to their respective participants.
466 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Gafisher: There are, of course, numerous doctrinal differences between Islam and Christianity…but both religions result in the worldview exhibited by Fred and JL3, which holds that anyone who disagrees with their way of seeing things is somehow deserving of torture/eternal misery/whatever…i.e. is less worthy than believers…as if mere belief itself were somehow worthy of esteem, when belief is usually primarily a matter of indoctrination by one’s parents.
What inward justification enables a teenager in Mumbai to mow down innocent civilians? The same justification that enabled Christians to slaughter Jews and Muslims and native Americans and Africans by the millions.
Different age, somewhat different religion…same mindset.
467 RedPepper // Dec 1, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Godfrey #466: Maybe I’m just not looking at it from the right angle, but I’m finding your argument remarkably similar to other variations of “moral equivalence” that I’ve heard over time … and no more convincing than they usually were, either.
Perhaps we are all guilty … still, that’s not the same as saying that we are are equally guilty …
To borrow an image, IMO most of these arguments end up as comparisons between lightning bugs … and lightning bolts.
FWIW.
468 Newsman // Dec 1, 2008 at 8:55 pm
We haven’t “won” yet gafisher. As I said young americans are still dying.
Do you consider that these continuing deaths constitute that we have “won the war” ?
To me “won the war” means no more of our young soldiers are being blown up and either killed or seriously maimed and disabled for the rest of their lives.
Winning WWII meant ‘jap’ and ‘hun’ soldiers were no longer killing american soldiers under the orders of their superior officers.
The bulk of what you said is immaterial nonsense in respect to my question.
469 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Eternal punishment has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement among men. Eternal reward has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement among men. Christianity is not religion. A good father rewards his children for acts of obedience, and punishes them for acts of disobedience. God says that to obey is better than to sacrifice. If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience, or the punishment for disobedience. To be fair God has given us a conscience, a handy reference guide that outlines his expectations, and direct influence bwo his own Spirit, that we may know how to be obedient. But he also allows us to make that choice, if we are willing to submit to his authority, we are given a gift, however we are free to reject the gift. The gift is Jesus Christ, the Son of God who gave himself to redeem mankind, who through disobedience became separated from him. If the gift is accepted the individual remains a sinner, but God forgives their disobedience because of the obedience of Christ. No man is capable of obeying God’s laws, we are born with a will that does not want to submit to divine authority.
Therein lies the difference between religion and Christianity, man cannot reconcile himself with God regardless what he does, reconciliation comes from God through the sacrifice of his Son and a man’s acceptance of Christ’s imputed righteousness.
Satan is a deceiver, he offers promises of reconciliation with religions that impose requirements on men that “earn” their salvation.
But without accepting God’s authority over us we cannot accept the fact that we are in need of reconciliation. If you do not recognize God as your Creator, you will never submit to him. He has given us his word, a conscience, and the influence of his Spirit. The word can be rejected, the conscience seared, and the Spirit quenched. But whether or not you accept his authority over you, you cannot avoid the punishment of disobedience. Whether we agree, or disagree.
470 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:21 pm
RedPepper: Hi there. I’m not sure what the similarities between major religions have to do with moral equivalence; I’m only saying that Islam and Christianity both have the effect of absolving its followers of responsibility for their actions, whether we’re talking about burning witches or blowing up children. It’s hard to temper someone’s propensity for violence if they are on a mission from god.
I realize, of course, that Christians don’t usually use their religion as an excuse for murder (at least not lately). But the prevailing mindset among the more fervent (and violence-minded) practitioners of Islam is exactly the same today as it was among Christians in the past (as recently as in the Balkans and in Ireland).
I guess it’s more like an “immoral equivalence”.
471 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 9:29 pm
“Winning WWII meant ‘jap’ and ‘hun’ soldiers were no longer killing american soldiers under the orders of their superior officers.”
But there were American soldiers killed after the WWII was “won”, right? You are assuming that the insurgents are fighting under orders of “superior officers”. The term “insurgents” is akin to “rebels”, they are not soldiers following orders as in conventional warfare. Even if their “superior officers” surrendered ” insurgents would not cease their efforts to kill, and they are not just killing American soldiers, they are targeting Iraqi forces as well. As long as we do not cut and run, this war is won in Iraq, but the terrorists are still plotting attacks around the globe.
472 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Mindknumbed kid: Christianity is not religion.
It’s a little late in the game to change the definition of the word “religion” at this point! I suppose you’re trying to draw a distinction between society’s structured practice of organized worship and the “deeper meaning” of Christianity, and I see why you’d want to do that. But I don’t think that’s possible; one necessarily draws upon the other. Christianity is, in every meaningful sense of the word, religion.
If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience
I think you’re mistaken here: rejection of god, according to Christian theology, is the ultimate sin. You can be forgiven for anything else, but if you have the audacity not to believe what you are taught, you are barred from entering heaven (although frankly, from what I’ve read of heaven and its primary denizens, it doesn’t sound like much fun anyway; I’m not sure I’d enjoy an eternity of servitude and supplication).
…God forgives their disobedience because of the obedience of Christ
I realize that’s a commonly accepted statement, but it really doesn’t make much sense, if you think about it. Perhaps in a more primitive world where scapegoating and ritual sacrifice (whether animal or human) still held some sway, it wouldn’t sound as strange. To the ancient Jews, for example, fresh from a polytheistic past, this sort of sacrifice/please the gods ethos must have made sense. But I think it sounds a bit archaic by today’s standards. Would anyone here do what Abraham (almost) did, sacrifice their child because they had a vision of God telling them to do so? I’m pretty sure modern psychiatry has a name for that sort of vision…and state hospitals have an open slot for anyone who follows through on it.
This is what I meant in my above post about the religious mentality: it’s okay to do the most horrendous things as long as it’s perceived to be the will of God. But when it’s the will of someone else’s god…well…not so much.
473 Hawkeye // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Hello all,
In case you haven’t seen it yet, I thought this was a pretty good summary of the Obama birth certificate issue.
474 mig // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:31 pm
For that person on your list who has everything, Planned Parenthood is offering — ahem — gift certificates.
475 RedPepper // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Godfrey #470: Hi there back at ya.
What prompted my remark about moral equivalence was this comment:
I think that’s a pretty broad remark …
I’m a good deal more interested in what people do than how they (try to) justify it, whether to me or to themselves. Anyway, as you observe, we don’t seem to be trying to justify violence by our religion so much these days … here in the West, anyway …
476 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:57 pm
“If we reject God’s authority over us it does not negate the reward of obedience, or the punishment for disobedience. ”
I meant to say that if we reject his authority over us it does not change the fact that there is a reward for obedience, or punishment for disobedience.
My bad.
If you are willing to risk an eternal home in Hell, (I know that also is archaic thinking) then by all means feel free to disregard what God has written to you in his word. It sounds as though you understand a lot less than you think you do. If the Bible is just another great piece of literature and the life of Christ and his sacrificial death a fable then you will be alright. don’t worry about anything…
The wages of sin is death – God
477 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 10:58 pm
The gift of God is eternal life – God
478 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:07 pm
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
However,
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
James 4:14
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
If all you have is this life on earth, you really don’t have much.
479 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:16 pm
No it doesn’t make any sense that God would give his Son just to reconcile sinful man, but it is true.
Romans 5:16-18 (King James Version)
16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
480 mindknumbed kid // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
481 Godfrey // Dec 1, 2008 at 11:31 pm
RedPepper: “I think that’s a pretty broad remark …”
I’m not so sure about that. It does, of course, involve a different religion (or more correctly a different offshoot of the same religion), but the basic reasoning behind each of these acts is the same; it is commanded by scripture (and therefore god). Examples:
Verse 9:123 of the Koran says “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you.”
Exodus 22:18 of the Bible says “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”
Both “commands” have been obeyed (to the letter) by believers of each faith, much to the chagrin of their victims. But who could imagine blowing up children or burning someone’s grandmother alive absent such a motivation? What Yemeni villager, Serb or Irishman would do the horrific things they have done without having been commanded to do so by god himself?
To me, the equivalence of these acts is very clear, and so is the equivalence of their cause; belief that god requires it, along with guaranteed absolution. Without this belief, none of these things would have happened.
482 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
Godfrey #481: I think we’re kind of talking past each other. I understand the basic point you are making re motivation, but my real attention is focused elsewhere.
I’ve just been reading a news story about Moshe Holtzberg, the orphaned son of Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife Rivka, who were murdered at Chabad House in Mumbai during the recent terror seige – tortured to death, in fact, in so gruesome a manner that it shocked the medical personnel who had to deal with their remains (see last link in my post #447).
They didn’t deserve to die that way. Their children don’t deserve to grow up orphans.
If I wanted to look at it that way, I could say that both Rabbi Holtzberg, and the men(?) who killed him and his wife, were motivated by religion.
That isn’t how I want to look at it …
483 DrLumplevin // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:29 am
We have received notice that the new memoir will be titled, “Wet Dreams of Myself: Hopw I Found the Greatest Love of My Life.”
484 everthink // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:54 am
Say Scott,
Could we get a courtesy flush here? The halfwits have this thing full. You know how they are, if you wait much longer their going to make a mess all over the place. Maybe you should put a sign on the door!
ET
485 Godfrey // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:07 am
RedPepper: That isn’t how I want to look at it …
That’s quite understandable; I’m sure it’s even more discomfiting for the average Muslim, who not only shares with these murderers a religious inclination but also a religion. Who would want to look at something like the horrors of last week and know that the perpetrators were motivated by religion?
And yet…they were.
There’s no denying it. In any non-religious context, the analysis would be swift and merciless. The killers would be characterized, categorized and diagnosed, and any motivating factors (heavy metal music? bullied at school?) would be splattered across the front pages of the world’s newspapers. But when the motivating factor is religion…which people so cherish…it’s considered taboo to speak of it as a cause.
And yet…it was.
So where does that leave us? Is their religion “different” than Christianity in this respect? History has shown that it isn’t. Were they rogue members of Islam, ignoring its tenets and “hijacking” one of the world’s great religions, as the press and the politicians always phrase it? No. As you see in the above Koranic verse, their actions were theologically defensible. Likewise, similar actions, through the ages, have been theologically defensible based on certain parts of the Christian bible (i.e. the burning of “witches”).
So what, really is the culprit? Most people don’t want to say that it is, at least partially, the human capacity for belief in the irrational, or the ease with which such belief has been used as a rationalization for the cruelest, most bloodthirsty acts in human history.
And yet…
486 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 2, 2008 at 6:17 am
North is not up. Up is not North. Deal with it.
Merry Christmas
God Bless America
487 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 10:44 am
Check out the video of Fred! on the economy. It’s too bad that some dimwits will miss his irony.
488 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:08 am
gafisher, In your responce to the “moronic post of newsman”,(calling his post moronic is mine), you left out New Orleans, which NOE is listed as the most dangerous city in America.
This is in spite of America pouring BILLIONS into this “Chocolate City”, that screamed Bush was a racist, that he had bombed the levees, and the sheer stupidity of these people re-electing an inept OAF that literally caused more deaths in his own city because he let buses sit idle because the drivers were not union or some such nonsense!
Probably more people died from this, than have died in Iraq in the last year!
With all the help, money, and aid given so we can say “we are not racist”, these “Chocolate City people” have proven THEY want even more, or they will TAKE IT, (remember the looting? Food was NOT what the looters were taking!).
Time to STOP “helping” them. These people are the “racists”!
Who wants to take my bet of ten to one that Nagin is, or will be asking for a “bailout” soon?
Didn’t think so.
PS: Anyone else see the trolls getting vulgar again? everthink/neverthink/alwaysstink is the A-typical lib. Vulgar language, dirty thoughts proves what a weak mind he has.
Same bet that four letter words are the staple of his house, that is if he/it has a house and is not typing from a public library.
489 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 am
gafisher, The post was #454, sorry I did not include that.
490 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 am
November 13th is where this story began. Has anyone talked to Scott?
No ads, no new stories. Has Scrappleface come to a slow painful halt.
491 RepublicanAttackMachine // Dec 2, 2008 at 11:12 am
Sheesh–#464. Time to get some coffee!
492 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Godfrey #485: Maybe it’s just about the neighborhood … we had some incidents involving witches, a few hundred miles from here, a couple of centuries ago … but to my knowledge, it’s been pretty quiet around here lately …
493 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Ms RW #490,
Scott was going pretty hard there up until the election. I’m just hoping he’s following BHO’s lead when he said… “Like most hard-working Americans, you get to a point where you just need some ‘me time’…
Or maybe it’s just ‘postpartum depression’ (following the birth of a new age and all that stuff).
494 BlackLion31U // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:44 pm
hey ram,
Do you by chance suffer from teretts syndrome?
495 Godfrey // Dec 2, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RedPepper: yeah, you might have something there. Here in my neighborhood we had some witch incidents just over a month ago…but instead of burning them at the stake we just gave ‘em candy and they went away.
496 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Another interesting blog…
Natural Born Citizen
Stay tuned sports fans!
497 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Berg to file emergency injunction with SCOTUS today…
HERE.
498 RedPepper // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Godfrey #495: I think you’ve put your finger on it! Candy, huh?
Reminds me of an exchange I overheard just before the election. A asks B, “Are you gonna go vote?”, to which B replies, “I always vote!” A responds, “Shouldn’t do that. It just encourages ‘em.”
499 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Five “Obamagate” cases now in SCOTUS with 15 more headed there…
HERE.
500 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The boy president-to-be surely has made a precedent of/for himself by being less than transparent about his resume and by ignoring the Freedom of Information Act.
Obama has three high-powered law firms fighting on his behalf to keep his original birth certificate in the Hawaiian lock box. He submitted a one-page doctor’s excuse as evidence of his health fitness. No one has seen any evidence of his academic record– applications, transcripts, diplomas, published articles. Details of his legislative record are down the memory hole, lost or destroyed by a shredder.
On the other hand, our girl Sarah (the one who faced a media proctology) is meeting with the prez-to-be in Philadelphia, along with 40 other governors, to discuss economic issues. She goes, not with hat in hand for a bailout, but to seek federal assistance in cutting through federal bureaucracy in order to make cheap energy independence a reality and to assure our security by doing so.
The source of the link within this link is intriguiging: a MenforPalin blog. I left the comment section in the link because there are some informed observations about the hoops that must be run through for energy companies to get a product up and running.
501 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 5:19 pm
OLA #500-teenth,
Sorry, link doesn’t work.
502 Hawkeye // Dec 2, 2008 at 5:23 pm
OLA,
Obama is not merey “less than transparent”… he’s opaque.
503 onlineanalyst // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Try this: .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2141404/posts
504 mindknumbed kid // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:33 pm
What good is a Constitutional requirement if no one seems to have any standing to enforce it? Who is responsible to uphold the Constitution? Doesn’t the disregard for our Constitution constitute injury to every law abiding American citizen? In the past when a candidate was found ineligible under the requirements of the Constitution, who took the action that lead to their disqualification? Do we have standing to file suit against whomever has jurisdiction to require the candidates provide proof of eligibility?
Or is this a case in which Obama, who is a Constitutional scholar, has found a loophole that will allow him to become President without ever having to provide proof that he meets the legal requirements?
If Barack Hussein Obama were an “undocumented worker” do you mean to tell me that he could still be in the same position he is in at this moment and still be sworn in as our 44th President? What am I missing here? This seems totally absurd to me. If the SCOTUS rules that none of the parties in any of the lawsuits has legal standing and they are dismissed, will somebody who does have legal standing emerge, or will we never know if our President is legally holding the office?
505 gafisher // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:38 pm
OLA, Hawkeye, isn’t it amazing how someone so vacuous can simultaneously be so opaque? It’s like one of those dust clouds in space — Nebulobama.
506 mindknumbed kid // Dec 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Still some mighty good news out there to report folks…
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Your future need not be all doom and gloom!
507 Fred Sinclair // Dec 2, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Attention all husbands… The Doghouse
Take heed! This COULD happen to you!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2077360/beware_of_the_doghouse_hilarious/
508 Darthmeister // Dec 2, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Texas Judge Dismisses Bogus Charges Against Cheney and AG.
Read the article, the guy was a whack-job … ’nuff said.
Er, Newsman, you can question my natural born status any time. I’d have absolutely no problem sending you directly to Galveston, Texas where the Galveston County Registrar, with my permission, could allow you to view a bona fide vault copy of my birth certificate … and I imagine you could do the same. Now why won’t Mr. Obama?
Obama can put this whole thing to rest by allowing a team of journalists to make the same inquiry with his blessings in Hawaii. Also you must remember, Obama and his handlers started this whole kerfuffle off by posting a completely bogus “birth certificate” on his website. The fact they removed that webpage when people pointed out discrepancies is suspicious in and of itself.
Why didn’t the man simply post a scanned image of a legitimate birth certificate that surely he must have in his possession. In fact, in one of his autobiographies he claimed he was in possession of the birth certificate as a young man. Why didn’t he simply use that one? Just asking.
It may very well be everything is on the up-and-up but Barack Obama has yet to release a certified copy of his actual vault birth certificate despite all the questions that have been raised, whether legitimate questions or not. It seems reasonable that someone whose bona fides are questioned wouldn’t post bogus documents are have “officials” making pronouncements on his behalf swearing on a stack of Boy Scout magazines that we should just take their word for it.
Don’t blame those who have questions about all the sneaky obfuscations that the Obama campaign has engaged in instead of simply PRODUCING AN ACTUAL CERTIFIED COPY OF HIS VAULT COPY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Also, keep in mind that at least two of his close relatives in Kenya claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa, Kenya. An even in view of those startling revelations the Obama machine has strenuously refused to produce a certified copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate that should include the Hawaiian hospital in which he was born and the doctor who delivered him. In fact quite the opposite happened. Instead, the Obama website posted a form that had none of that information about doctor or hospital, thus leading to further suspicions Obama might have been one of the foreign-born babies of the 1960s who were provided birth certificates by the state of Hawaii during that time span.
Keep in mind, the Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original vault birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.
Surely it exists, mine does and I’ve communicated with someone who was born in Hawaii in 1961 and there vault birth certificate has both the hospital and doctor’s name with signature.
This whole issue wouldn’t have gotten to this point if Mr. Obama had simply gone to Hawaii (like when he visited his ailing grandmother), ask for a certified copy of his vault birth document, make it public and then put this whole issue to rest. But oddly enough HE STILL HASN’T DONE IT!
I think he at least owes America that much. This whole thing is a distraction and it’s because of the lies, half-truths and at least two fake birth documents posted on his website and at DailyKos that the Obama campaign have already engaged in. Don’t blame us for Mr. Obama’s hamhanded and often cryptic handling of this issue, he’s the one keeping it alive.
509 Tuesday Links : Stop The ACLU // Dec 2, 2008 at 9:18 pm
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510 Fred Sinclair // Dec 2, 2008 at 9:31 pm
I doubt that there is anything, anywhere that can compare to the advice of a truly dedicated America hater. Well, there’s always Dingy Harry, aka Harry Reid, The Queen of Hearts, aka Nancy Pelosi and of course B.O. himself, aka Barack Hussein Obama. Their epiphany (or divine revelation) came to them and their cohorts when they finally realized that their triune gods (Marx, Lenin & Engles) had created and sought to establish the perfect world. Described in the writing of “The Communist Manifesto” and subsequently expanded into the three volume set “Das Kapital” A Utopian world where all men are born equal and should remain equal in all matters. Unfortunately they missed the American version – “All men are CREATED equal, with their inherent ability to work, according to their will, and become unequal.”
A smidgen of the links when you dogpile or google “A letter to America” This dyed in the wool Marxist has his perfect advice for America. (From his viewpoint, that is…..)
A Letter to America | Truth Spring
Nov 20, 2008 … By Anwaar Hussain Dear Americans, With your election of Barack Hussein Obama, … Sincerely,. Anwaar Hussain. A Letter to America …
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Truth Spring
adil choudhry»» Dear Anwaar, Enjoyed reading this letter. … In the United Vegetative State of America, Anwaar Hussain, a Masters in Defense and Strategic …
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Fountainhead Forum – Anwaar Hussain’s Articles
by Anwaar ? Some democracy, America ? Anwaar, 0, 259, Jun 6, 2007, 8:03pm by Anwaar ?A letter To President George Bush [ Pages: 1, 2 ], Anwaar …
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Uncommon Thought Journal: A Letter to America
A Letter to America. By Anwaar Hussain of Truth Spring. Dear Americans, … Anwaar Hussain. Posted by rowan at November 20, 2008 11:10 AM | [eMail this article! …
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Uncommon Thought Journal: A Letter to America
A Letter to America. By Anwaar Hussain of Truth Spring. Dear Americans,. With your election of Barack Hussein Obama, you have almost realized t