(2008-02-10) — Former President Bill Clinton today downplayed the significance of his wife’s losses in Maine, Nebraska and Washington over the weekend, noting that just as being half-black helped Sen. Barack Obama win in the south, “his white half gives him the edge in primarily Anglo-American states.”
“Obama gets to play both sides of the race card,” said Mr. Clinton, “I told you he won South Carolina because he’s black, like Jesse Jackson. So, to be consistent, I’d have to say he won Maine because he’s white like Michael Dukakis.”
The former president acknowledged that his reasoning “doesn’t make sense at first, but if you think about how hard it is for me to avoid saying Hillary lost because Democrats don’t like her, then I think you’ll agree it’s the only prudent thing I can say.”
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1 onlineanalyst // Feb 10, 2008 at 9:33 pm
And we all know that prudence in word or action is the hallmark of Bill Clinton. NOT!
Maybe Bill just didn’t want to see Hillary! cry…again.
2 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 10, 2008 at 9:35 pm
God Bless America
3 egospeak // Feb 10, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Good ‘ol Bill Clinton… like a STD, he’s the gift that keeps on giving.
May God have mercy on America.
Regards,
wv – wolverines low – U of Michigan at the end of the game against Appalachian State
4 gafisher // Feb 10, 2008 at 9:53 pm
It’s not so much that Obama’s white half won as that Hillary’s feminine side lost.
wv – pained land – The U.S. under Democrats.
5 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 10, 2008 at 10:01 pm
It is an interesting aspect of allegedly purported current perceptions: That, at a minimum, it is pris pour accordé that Barry Obama is a Negro liberal (the maximum being the heretical usage of the word “messiah” in association with BO)–I contend that he is just another vacuous Caucasian liberal socialist with sorta darkish skin.
6 prettyold // Feb 10, 2008 at 10:14 pm
The Democrats didn’t have never even tried to say John Kennedy was the Messiah. When most Dims are atheists or agnostics why do they keep trying to say that one of their own is the Messiah?
Wasn’t Kennedy supposed to be Sir Lancelot?
disaster General What willl happen if the Dims get to name any Generals.
7 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 10, 2008 at 10:29 pm
’tis sad indeed
new erase: what Hillary wishes she could do
8 conserve-a-tips // Feb 10, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Well, we rolled into my home sweet home driveway, unloaded the car, unpacked the suitcases and then I got to sit down to my computer after 16 hours on the road and I got this…what a hoot.
And so, his Christian side will give him Texas and his Muslim side will give him…..what?
Air Deportive: Our state’s atmosphere after the passage and enforcement of HB1804.
9 da Bunny // Feb 10, 2008 at 11:04 pm
“It’s not so much that Obama’s white half won as that Hillary’s feminine side lost.” – gafisher #4
What “feminine side?”
10 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 7:14 am
c.a.t. – I was praying for your safety on the trip – good to hear prayers are answered. Welcome back!
prettyold – since Algore is their resident Prophet, perhaps BO is one of the Elders in their “Church of ‘Manmade’ Global Warming.”
If I recall correctly – “Lifebuoy Deodorant Soap” was the accepted treatment for BO. Appropriate as it is because BO always stinks.
Heirborn Ranger
11 Kibi // Feb 11, 2008 at 7:23 am
Obviously, his Muslim side will give him Michigan.
12 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 7:38 am
Friday’s World News with Charles Gibson featured a report that seemed to lament the absence of public calls for additional gun control.
I found myself in complete agreement with him – If only 100% of all the firearms on the planet could be melted and recast into plowshares (with, of course the exemption of myself and all of my Scrappler friends. Including such firearms as we chose to appropriate.) This could be a much nicer place to live.
In the land of the blind a one-eyed man will be King.
Heirborn Ranger
13 Hawkeye // Feb 11, 2008 at 8:40 am
For Bill Clinton, the prudent thing to do would be to shut up.
pianist Weaver — I didn’t know Charlie even played the piano.
14 Ms RightWing, Ink // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:17 am
Hey! If Charlie was alive I would nominate him for president. He may be a country bumpkin, but look around the political circle. Ahem, need I say more
joint self-denial: Ha! Doesn’t that shoe fit
15 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:18 am
Don’t you folks have anything good you want to say about the presumed Republican nominee, or his Huckleberry?
ET
16 boberinyetagain // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:29 am
He’s not Hillary?
potter niceties: what a a book club spews while pretending to like each other?
17 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 10:36 am
bober,
He’s just not Ralph either, although he does look a little green when the light is just right! Everthink, maybe he’s right light greener?
BTW, isn’t the Green Party for bi-politicals?
ET
18 DrivebyMeteor // Feb 11, 2008 at 10:43 am
Question, Bubba – was it Obama’s black half that beat you for the Grammy Award?
“Say what you will, the man has pipes!“
19 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 10:43 am
Fred Re#10: ““Lifebuoy Deodorant Soap†was the accepted treatment for BO.”
With Teddy behind him, nautical references must be carefully vetted.
20 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 10:48 am
ET Re#15: “Don’t you folks have anything good you want to say about the presumed Republican nominee …”
The Republicans have to chose between candidates who don’t quite meet the Reagan standard. The Dems have to choose between candidates who don’t even reach the Carter standard.
21 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 10:50 am
Hawkeye,
About that 13 comment you made, you votin for Hillary now? If not, don’t worry aboudit! We got it over here!
Bill Clinton will never SINK to less than twice the popularity rating of Dumbyah, … and you can take that to the bank!
Bahwahwahwahwee!
ET
22 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:10 am
Reagan standard?
What is that? Nap time? Jelly Beans, what?
Did Reagan sell weapons to Iran?
Did he “cut and run” in Beirut?
Did he run a secret war in violation of the Constitution he swore to uphold?
Did he have to apologize for lying to Congress?
“There you go again”; Reagan doesn’t meet your Reagan standard.
And the Soviet Union fell of it’s own weight after Afganistan!
But, we did capture 700 guys in Granada.
Give me a break!
ET
23 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:35 am
“AP WASHINGTON: Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that the replacement of her campaign manager reflected a need to add more people to her campaign staff.”
So let’s see if I’ve got this straight — you add staff by firing them?
Clintonomics, I guess.
24 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:36 am
“[A] wise and frugal government… shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.†—Thomas Jefferson
I feel Tommy wasn’t thinking about Income Taxes or ‘Federally Mandated’ vaccinations for children, go figger.
But it is nice to know that we can teach children that “Once upon a time….there was this country called America and it had ‘A wise and frugal government….’ and it’s citizens held their heads high wherever they went.”
Heirborn Ranger
25 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:39 am
ET Re#22: Nope, nope, nope, nope and a few more nopes.
I sometimes forget you weren’t taught history in Troll School.
26 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:44 am
ET Re#22: but thanks for not disputing my Carter reference. Maybe Troll School neglected only some history.
27 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:54 am
gafisher,
How about the debt Reagan ran up?
His “Deregulation” which caused the S&L Crisis, (in which Neil Bush got caught).
What if he had continued Carter’s Energy Policy; would we be in Iraq today?
How about “trees pollute”, and “catchup is a vegetable”.
Give me some more nopes, and I’ll have to ask when the Alzheimer’s began?
Anyone who markets his politics using The Name Of The Lord, will always win the vote of those who don’t recognize His Voice.
And, The Lord doesn’t sound at all like Rush, either!!!!
ET
28 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:58 am
Fred Re#24: “But it is nice to know that we can teach children that “Once upon a time….there was this country called America and it had ‘A wise and frugal government….’ and it’s citizens held their heads high wherever they went.—
We might be able to *tell* them that, but teaching will be restricted to those who can say with a straight face that “Once upon a time there was this country called Amerika which was run by tyrants who stayed awake nights dreaming up ways to destroy the planet and brutalize the innocent.” Here, check out this textbook sample.
29 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 12:05 pm
gafisher,
Carter single-handedly brought about “The Camp David Accords”.
The first recognition of Israel by an Arab State – a monumental achievement!
One for which other Arab States, through their oil, made him, and the United States pay greatly.
“Blessed are the peacemakers …”
ET
30 Hawkeye // Feb 11, 2008 at 12:25 pm
ET #21,
You’re on a roll today. Yes, I’m gonna vote for Hillary now… and I have this bridge I’d like to sell you.
31 Beerme // Feb 11, 2008 at 12:26 pm
It’s a shame what happens to a formerly conservative mind, when a war-dodging, Nor’easter Rockefeller Republican from Texas wins the White House, ain’t it? He suddenly realizes that everything conservative that he formerly believed is now so clearly wrong and he develops a taste for a philandering, power-mad Democrat from Arkansas and all of his relatives.
Odd, really.
32 Hawkeye // Feb 11, 2008 at 12:50 pm
ET #29,
So then you agree that Carter was a dismal failure?
#27, Regarding tree pollution, read this.
33 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Oh, my, ET, if you don’t remember when the Alzheimer’s started I’m not sure all of us together could help you recover your lost memories. But let’s start where you did:
“How about the debt Reagan ran up?”
“His “Deregulation†which caused the S&L Crisis, (in which Neil Bush got caught).”
“What if he had continued Carter’s Energy Policy; would we be in Iraq today?”
“How about “trees polluteâ€, and “catchup is a vegetableâ€.”
Look those up, ET, and learn something. The links aren’t all anti-Carter or pro-Reagan, but they all provide some insight into the issues you raised.
34 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 1:12 pm
ET Re#29: Okay, granted, Carter brought lasting peace to the Middle East. Credit where credit is due — Jimmy Carter wasn’t universally bad. But of course I never said he was, just that “The Dems have to choose between candidates who don’t even reach the Carter standard.”
35 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 1:15 pm
A COMIC STRIP TODAY: SPEAKING TO A VERY OLD LOOKING MAN —-
THEY: HI. WE’RE FROM THE DRUG COMPANY, CONDUCTING A SURVEY ON THE SECRET TO LONGEVITY.
OLD MAN: WELL I’M 110 YEARS OLD AND HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PHARMACY OR TAKEN A SINGLE PILL IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I PUT IT DOWN TO CLEAN LIVING.
THEY: ( ONE ASKING HIS PARTNER) CAN WE DEVELOP A VACCINE AGAINST CLEAN LIVING?
me: It’s not only been developed but the majority of the planet’s population has already been vaccinated.
Heirborn Ranger
36 Libby Gone // Feb 11, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Let me try my hand at everthinking,
What about the failed war of liberation?
What about the tax cuts for the Rich?
What about the womanizing?
What about the waste of tax dollars putting some “futuristic space fantasies” in orbit?
What really happened when he was in the military?
Is Daddy building an Empire or just Nepotism running rampant?
Someone please answer these questions.
About John F Kennedy
Wow I feel intelligent and cunning, must mean I am a successful everthinker.
37 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 2:18 pm
gafisher, Hawk & Beerme:
A Lie Told Often Enough…
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. (Joseph Gobbles.)
“A lie told often enough becomes truth” (Vladimir Lenin.)
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. (Mark Twain)
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie (2Th. 2:11)
“The history of our race, and each individual’s experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.” (Mark Twain)
“Ambition drove many men to become false; to have one thought locked in the breast, another ready on the tongue.” (Sallust)
A good example is the 20th century when multiple generations were deluged with lies about homosexuality how normal and natural it is.
Didn’t sell very well during the first third of the century but they kept chip, chip, chipping away until hate crime laws were enacted.
Same thing with abortion. Lying in (and to get in) politics has become the norm. We not only accept the lies, we even expect them.
The day of reckoning is just around the corner: Rom. 1:24 ¶ Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
Rom. 14:11 For it is written,
“AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME,
AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD.â€
Heirborn Ranger
38 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I’m proof you ain’t even a successful Libby Gone; now darlin, don’t you even be lookin’ at that big tall Everthink mountain.
ET
39 Fred Sinclair // Feb 11, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Libby gone (Lib – b – gone) Re. #36: Good one, however I must tell you, you can never think like e.t.
You are intelligent.
(I don’t know about the cunning part but since you know you – I’ll take your word on it).
Heirborn Ranger
40 woodnwheel // Feb 11, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Sorry for the late response — I don’t do much surfing on the weekends, so I didn’t see this post/thread until this morning:
ET re. #15:
“Don?t you folks have anything good you want to say about the presumed Republican nominee, or his Huckleberry?”
Okay, since I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere else: While I disagree with McCain on certain issues (including ESCR), last week I read a profile of Cindy McCain from the February 3 issue of the London Sunday Times, and one thing in that article made my blood boil.
The article mentions a controversy during the 2000 Republican primary, when “voters in South Carolina began receiving telephone calls suggesting the senator had fathered an illegitimate black child.” Think about that one for a minute: Voters in SOUTH CAROLINA began receiving telephone calls suggesting McCain had fathered an illegitimate BLACK child. Obviously the motive was to stir up racist sentiment.
If that weren’t bad enough, here’s the truth behind the smear:
“[Cindy McCain] had visited Bangladesh with a different charity and decided on the spur of the moment to help a little girl with a cleft palate whom she met in Mother Teresa?s orphanage.
“The McCains eventually adopted the girl, named her Bridget and raised her as their daughter.”
As some of you may know, I happen to be a wheelchair-bound paraplegic. I also have a brother who is black (I’m white). While, as I said, I disagree with Senator McCain on some issues, learning about the 2000 controversy and the truth behind it gave me quite a bit of respect for the man.
41 boberinyetagain // Feb 11, 2008 at 2:51 pm
He’d probably be fun to share a beer or two with as well.
maiden entry…not terribly long ago I frequented a bar that actually still had the side entrance clearly labeled “ladies entrance”. Must be something like that
42 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 3:03 pm
bober,
What, Ralph won’t drink witcha?
ET
43 boberinyetagain // Feb 11, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Ralph would be a priceless happy hour companion, I’m sure I could learn much
alleged only…unless you are sure it was me
44 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 3:13 pm
GEORGE WALKER BUSH PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY
The Library will include:
The Hurricane Katrina Room, which is still under construction.
The Alberto Gonzales Room, where you can’t remember anything.
The Texas Air National Guard Room, where you don’t have to even show up.
The Walter Reed Hospital Room, where they don’t let you in.
The Guantanamo Bay Room, where they don’t let you out.
The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room (which no one has been able to find).
The Iraq War Room. After you complete your first tour, they make you to go back for a second, third, fourth, and sometimes fifth tours.
The Dick Cheney Room, in the famous secure, undisclosed location, complete with shooting gallery.
Plans also include: The K-Street Project Gift Shop – Where you can buy (or just steal) an election.
The Airport Men’s Room, where you can meet some of your favorite Republican Senators.
Last, but not least, there will be an entire floor devoted to a 7/8 scale model of the President’s ego.
To highlight the President’s accomplishments, the museum will have an electron microscope to help you locate them.
When asked, President Bush said that he didn’t care so much about the individual exhibits as long as his museum was better than his father’s.
45 onlineanalyst // Feb 11, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Happy birthday, possumtrot!
46 boberinyetagain // Feb 11, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Wow, I did not know, I second the b’day wishes Mr. Possum!
cuzco with…better than without I hope!
47 Darthmeister // Feb 11, 2008 at 4:27 pm
gafisher, don’t confuse neverthink with real facts, he’s too busy making up his own … you know, the world according to neverthink and the barking moonbats. It’s kind of hard for trolls to think straight after howling at the moon all night. I still think his mommy must have dropped him on his head shortly after he was born.
________________________________
Messiah Obama was interviewed by Steve Croft on 60 Minutes last night. Naturally when he’s on the stump Obama constantly floats the lie that come hell-or-high-water he (with finger thrusting into the air) will bring the troops home blah, blah, blah.
But what is the reality?
Kroft: “At a time when American casualties are down, at a time when the violence is down, particularly affecting the Iraqi population, is that the right time to try and set time tables for withdrawing all American troops? I mean you talked about…the end of 2009.
[My note: Notice Obama didn't dispute these facts despite having said last summer that the surge has failed.]
Messiah Obama: “Yeah, absolutely. I think now is precisely the time. I think that it is very important for us to send a clear signal to the Iraqis that we are not gonna be here permanently. We’re not gonna set up permanent bases. That they are going to have to resolve their differences and get their country functioning.”
Kroft: “And you pull out according to that time table, regardless of the situation? Even if there’s serious sectarian violence?”
Obama: “No, I always reserve as commander in chief, the right to assess the situation.”
Whaaaaaat! Why that isn’t a substantively different position than Hillary’s position or even President George W. Bush’s position. Where’s the cast iron guaran-dam-tee that he has been promising about “bringing the troops home”? Yet braindead, useful idiot neo-coms on the other side of the aisle will continue to lie to themselves that Messiah Obama is dead set serious on bringing the troops home. What if after four years of “reassessing” he still deems it inadvisable to retreat in defeat? Don’t worry, the moonbats would probably vote for him again and keep the incompetent and disfunctional Congress in Donk hands.
48 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Stunning work, ET (re#44). Why, I’ll bet you could turn that into a best-selling comic book!
49 gafisher // Feb 11, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Darth Re#47: Obama has no illusions about the Dem base being particularly intelligent. As you noted earlier in the same posting, the ever dense is all around us …
50 Shelly // Feb 11, 2008 at 5:03 pm
woodnwheel, I’m not sure of all the facts to the story, but someone wrote something about the McCain campaign complaining about phone calls, but no on could produce a single recording of any call, despite the prevalence of answering machines these days. Like I said, I don’t know all the facts on that, but I do know that McCain has not always been honest in this campaign.
With the possible upcoming lawsuits and the fear that the super delegates could lead to a revolt among voters, this mess on the Dem side would be a lot more fun if we had a better candidate on our side. I wonder if MCain makes it to 1,191 before the convention? In my opinion the thought of both conventions being brokered would be fabulous.
McCain has won some states because he’s half Republican.
51 RedPepper // Feb 11, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Possumtrot:
As the Italian toast says, Cent’ Anni (i.e., May you live a hundred years! )
52 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Obama: “No, I always reserve as commander in chief, the right to assess the situation.
Then the transcript goes on to say:
“It has cost us over half a trillion dollars so far. When the final tab is tallied it may have cost us as much as two trillion dollars,” Obama said at a stump speech. “For that amount of money we could have rebuilt every bridge, every road, every school, every hospital. We could have put in place all the homeland security that was needed. We could have made America more safe. Could put people back to work. Sent our kids to college.”
ET
53 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 11, 2008 at 6:04 pm
So. It’s all about federal money to do everything, eh?
Egad.
Just goes to show how pathetically ignorant BO is. The only thing on that list that the Federal Government has anything whatsoever to do with is Homeland Security.
54 Shelly // Feb 11, 2008 at 6:11 pm
We’ve stopped sending kids to college?
And wouldn’t rebuilding every road, bridge, school and hospital be a bit wasteful, even for a liberal?
55 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Then should we build these things for Iraqis?
It was Eisenhower’s National System of Interstate and Defense Highways Program (including bridges) that built those highways in the first place.
ET
56 egospeak // Feb 11, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Evening folks. Re: 53 The final tab could be any amount any politician wants to pull out of the air to make his falacious point. Why don’t we talk about the 6 trillion dollars spent on the war on poverty? The poverty rate was about 13% before the war against it began and it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 12% now, 40 years later.
Just imagine what we could have done with 6 trillion real dollars as opposed to the imaginary 2 trillion that Messiah Obama says could have rebuilt every road, bridge, school, hospital, cured AIDS, E.D., male pattern baldness and the heartbreak of psoriasis. And I am willing to bet that the poverty rate would still be somewhere between 10 and 13% but that we wouldn’t looking at 4th, 5th, and 6th generations still in poverty.
BTW, the best way to put people back to work is to allow companies to keep more of their profit so they can expand and hire more people.
One final random thought about Federal job training programs. There was a call for more of them to be part of the ill advised stimulus package. We have plenty of them… they are called “The Public School System”. Nuff Said.
Regards,
Note to gafisher: I’ve decided to vote for Huckabee tomorrow since he’s on a roll. He’s still not my candidate but if it slows down or possibly stops McCain… well I’m willing to give it a shot.
oyster warren- similar to a rabbit warren but for oysters
57 egospeak // Feb 11, 2008 at 8:19 pm
re: 57 Last line of the 2nd paragraph should read “wouldn’t be looking at”.
So much for proofreading.
Regards,
sonic and- beats the heck out of me.
58 Darthmeister // Feb 11, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Having delusions of adequacy, eh neverthink?
You twit. Obama was spewing complete nonsense. The money was raised and budgetted to fund the war and the war alone. If there wasn’t the war the money wouldn’t be there to fund all the other things Obama was whining about. Not one previously budgetted item has been defunded as the result of the Global War on Terror.
In adjusted real dollars, the entire Global War on Terror, the war in Iraq, and the yearly defense budget represents a smaller part of the overall federal budget than it did during the Vietnam War or the Korean War or World War II or World War I. And it certainly represents an even smaller part of the GDP of this nation.
The stupid rant now being put out by the Donks, aided and abetted by their accomplices in the lamestream media, that the war in Iraq is responsible for the “recession” is based on little more than outright partisan stupidity. If a $500 billion dollar war over a period of 4.5 years can plunge this country into a “recession”, then a $800 billion A YEAR welfare state expenditure is thirty-two times as likely to cause a recession.
gafisher and his links busted you big time but apparently your constant state of denial makes you a genius in your own mind. What I don’t understand is why you set such low personal standards for yourself and then consistently fail to achieve them? It must really be frustrating. But don’t worry, there’s nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won’t cure.
59 mindknumbed kid // Feb 11, 2008 at 8:54 pm
For that ammount of money we could not come close to doing everything that Obrahma listed, but I bet it played real good to the distraught cradle to grave crowd. The good government will help us never need to need anything again. And that folks is what they want, and if it is good enough, they might even be willing to work for it. Might, I say.
Why not vote the Huckster, he ain’t the McSham anyhow, and I like the fair tax idea, not that it will ever see the light of day, and they tell me he doesn’t read his speeches, just stands up and starts talkin’, maybe he’s more “real” than we give him credit for….I have no peace about McVain guy.
60 mindknumbed kid // Feb 11, 2008 at 8:58 pm
BTW – I became a grandpa on the 7th @ 20:58 MST, a boy 7 lbs even 19.5 inches named Chance Landon, he is doing just fine.
61 nylecoj // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Congrats mkk!!
You will have such a wonderful time.
Being a grand parent has been awesome for me.
genuine fantastic=now there is a relevent sign in
62 MajorDomo // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Y’all leave everthink alone. Just let him babble on, off where he can’t harm anything.
63 PanamaRed // Feb 11, 2008 at 9:44 pm
I just learned of the passing of “The Great Santini.” I never met him, yet I feel that I came to know him through his postings on Scrappleface. May the Lord comfort his family and friends who have lost a good husband, father and decent man. His song parodies were essays on the human animal, good and bad. I will think of him in those terms and cannot think of a better way to wish him a fitting farewell is by playing Norman Greenbaum’s “Spirit In the Sky” in his memory. Go with God and may your journey be quick and sure for we have not lost a friend, we have one waiting for us when we too must make that journey. Peace.
64 everthink // Feb 11, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Thank you, Major!
All I have ever asked is opportunity to offer a little unoffensive observation, or two, about the corrupt, semi-literate moron who has stolen the highest office in the land, violated his oath, allowed our country to be attacked, made up stuff so he could start a war, wasted thousands of lives, thrown away money by the truckload, and disgraced our great nation around the world. Apparently, all this, so he could prove himself more important than his daddy.
That, and to try to help Darthmeister to exorcise his many demons.
By the way, what branch of service made you a field grade officer? TANG seemed to have believed Dumbyah maxed out at O-2
ET
65 Fred Sinclair // Feb 12, 2008 at 12:25 am
If you hve a recent meal you want to get rid of bwo upchucking don’t miss Michele’s latest offering about OUR GOVERNMENT financing aid to Mexico to help them strengthen THEIR SOUTHERN BORDER!
“The White House wants a $1.4 billion stimulus/national security package…for Mexico”
By Michelle Malkin • February 11, 2008 01:54 PM
Heirborn Ranger
66 Darthmeister // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:28 am
Messiah Obama is such a partisan hack. Why wasn’t the task of rebuilding hospitals, schools, bridges, road and the rest of America’s infrastructure proposed and begun under herr Clinton back in 1992? He and the Democrat Congress had at least two years to start such an initiative with the “peace dividend” and later will all the supposed “budget surplus” that Billy Bob was supposed to have engineered in all his executive brilliance.
Such an initiative wasn’t funded and it certainly wasn’t proposed during that time of “peace and prosperity.” Imagine that. Rebuilding the whole American infrastructure should have at least started under Clinton if such things could fiscally happen. And for Messiah Obama to start pining for such a thing and blaming war for diverting those kinds of funds is simply disengenuous.
If this empty suit ever gains the White House with the fanatical support of his cult following, how much do you want to bet we’ll be hearing the same ol’ complaint three years into his administration that America’s infrastructure is still “crumbling and decaying” for lack of funds and leadership on this issue? Proving this is only a talking point for the mind-numbed robots on the left side of the aisle.
Only gullible moonbats can actually believe that Messiah Obama will bring home the troops (and not only in Iraq, let’s bring them home from around the world … now that would save twice as much!) and then proceed to give Americans new hospitals, bridges, roads, a Cadillac in every garage and a chicken in every pot. After all, by Obama’s own statement that’s what he wants everyone to believe, right? Charlatan!
67 Darthmeister // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:29 am
… push.
68 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:33 am
I think the The Grammy in Mathematics is way cooler than The Grammy in BO.
Also: I, too, am troubled by The Free USD Spigot freely gushing forth in an unbridled, free-flowing, frenzied, wanton free-for-all for everybody and their kin in every nook and cranny of this planet. And for what? An inexhaustible source of FREEking Vitriol!?! Whoo-HOO!!!!! Blind Hatred!?! Yee-HAW!!!!! Murderous Envy!?! Ooh-YAY-YUH!!!!!
[gak]
I suppose, originally, it [carte blanc for any whoever for any whatever] bought “friends” but probably not really.
69 gafisher // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:03 am
Shelly Re#50:
“McCain has won some states because he’s half Republican.”
Now that, as our gracious host might say, is funny!
70 gafisher // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:07 am
ET Re#64: “All I have ever asked is opportunity to offer a little unoffensive observation …”
When you’re ready to start, we’re ready to listen.
71 conserve-a-tips // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:27 am
Good morning, guys and gals.
This election gets stranger and stranger and it’s just all I can do to pay attention. I have made a decision and just wanted to let y’all know that I love you guys and enjoy the banter. However, with things in my life piling on, I am having to cut some things for awhile and time on the computer has to be number one. I just wanted to let you know so that you wouldn’t think that I had dropped off the earth. I love your emails and look forward to them, but I won’t be posting on Scrappleface much until we get through this wedding. Keep up the good fight. And hold ET’s feet to the fire!
Have a wonderful week.
Conserve-a-tips
the Temple: Unfortunately, where ever Obama is speaking as the new “Savior”. Let’s hope that Americans recognize the real Savior in revival.
72 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 10:14 am
c-a-t. best wishes to you! We’ll miss you and look forward to your return. I, too, dropped off this site for a time and enjoy being back.
gafisher, thank you.
et, when did lies and slander become “unoffensive” in your world? When the entire world, including the anti-American UN which you must love, given your loathing of the US, was voting for all those resolutions (was it 16?) about Iraq’s WMD’s, how do you think Bush got them to do it? Moreover, all those gassed Iranians and Kurds – how did Bush manage that with weapons you claim didn’t exist? And besides your delusional thinking, provide one truthful piece of evidence that Bush allowed our country to be attacked.
Given your newfound love for truth telling I look forward to your attempt at an adult answer.
73 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 10:20 am
RE: 65, I haven’t had breakfast yet, and won’t be eating anytime soon. How demented is this?
74 Libby Gone // Feb 12, 2008 at 10:45 am
ET,
Has Bush Derangement Syndrome affected anyone else in your genetic background? I’m curious if your malarkey is hereditary or self inflicted.
Also have you sought long term treatment for the inevitable, when President Bush no longer has the Executive Authority to ruin your day.
I think its a 12 step program, starts like,,
I admit I am powerless over President Bush and my life has become unmanageable.
Help is available.
75 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 10:50 am
O’ endless Barfmouth,
You say:
“Only gullible moonbats can actually believe that Messiah Obama will bring home the troops …”.
Some of us “gullible moonbats”, now want to reinstate the draft, so many of the “heterosexual honor student” sons of the greatest proponents of the endless occupation of Iraq will get a chance to actually put their daddy’s words into action, instead of looking for a way to scam an education from the USMA.
That way, our beleaguered U. S. Army can turn its attention to getting its hands on the another Barfmouth who’s laughing at us from the real front of the WOT.
I would also like to see all America’s children, not just those who can claim some kinda “ethnic handout”, can get an education, and reclaim America’s place of intellectual prominence in the world.
Of course, this will likely free them of the bondage of their association with Rev. Bobby Jo’s false theology, the Flat Earth People, and the current “conservative” movement.
ET
76 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:18 am
ET, such hatred of one’s own country and military is really astonishing. What is it like to have nothing but hate? Do you ever wonder what it might be like to experience joy? Or is seething hatred and dishonesty all you’ve ever known?
77 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:26 am
Speaking of Obama, at LGF:
**Barack Obama won?t wear an American flag on his lapel, but on the wall of his Houston campaign office: a Cuban flag with a picture of Communist mass murderer Che Guevara. (Click picture for video.)**
It’s not the only one, either. The left does love a communist mass murder, not to mention a late Iraqi one.
78 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Shelly,
“Moreover, all those gassed Iranians and Kurds – how did Bush manage that with weapons you claim didn’t exist?”
It was Reagan (of the now famous “Reagan standard”) who gave those weapons to Saddam in the first place. And we taught him how to make more of them. So, I guess, he (Reagan) was Saddam’s accomplice in those murders. Saddam already had those rape rooms, and torture chambers when Rummy delivered the WMD to him.
In 1990, the U. S. Army sent my son to Germany, after getting the Berlin Wall torn down (I have a piece of that wall); in 1991 they sent him to Sofwon, Iraq were he smacked the snot out of the “elite” Republican Guard (I have a “reluctantly donated” IRG beret), and broke all of Saddam’s stuff.
After that, the young Sergeant was sent over to Mogadishu to “reason” with Mohammad Farah Aidid. Aidid thanked them for not killing him, and promised to behave. But, my boy would have avenged the heroic “Back Hawk Down” Army Rangers, if they’d have let him.
I’m so proud of that boy! What a good man he has become. Maybe you remember BlackLion 31?
I am also proud he once said to me: “I can see you as a CSM, if you’d have stayed in the Army”. (Actually, I was lucky to get out with a couple of stripes).
All this kinda reminds me of old “Shoot’em Up and his boy, don’t it you?
Thanks for letting me share,
ET
PS Do you think Mr. Bush has ever read “The Powell Doctrine”, or had it read to him, or even heard of it? How about you?
79 Maggie // Feb 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Shelly re # 50…I agree with Gafisher.
Read # 69…… :<)
Welcome back to SF.
80 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Correction, I guess it must have been 1989 when the Army sent my son to Germany.
Shelly,
My 5th GGF had his plantation burned for signing the Maryland Loyalty Oath, and they would have killed him if they could. Look up “The Maryland Four Hundred” that was my 4th GGF’s outfit. The 13th Kentucky Detached Militia was my 3rd GGF outfit in the “Battle of New Orleans”. His grandson was awarded The Medal of Honor at the Battle of Atlanta with The 3rd Kentucky Cavalry (USA). My grandfather was with Pershing. My father volunteered for the Army, but failed the physical on December 8th, 1941.
I served in one of the most select units in the United States Army. DOD “stabilized” my tour of duty because of the money and time invested in me. I have worn a loaded sidearm in the presence of the POTUS, and have been to Camp David.
I act now, as Germans should have acted in the 1930’s.
ET
81 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:12 pm
ET, You don’t act. You drink Kool-Aid and then you spew lies in the Comments section of a great website. Your delusions of grandeur are truly breathtaking, as is your hatred for a military you wish we believed your family supported, despite your consistent embrace of dishonesty.
Maggie, thanks!
82 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Is this thing on?
83 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Shelly,
I seldom lie, I don’t drink Kool-Aid, and could vote for the right Republican at some time; but my cousin seems to be ready to win this election.
The Motto of my U. S. Army – Military Police Corps is “Of The Troops And For The Troops”. I will forever be true to that!
And, I am the most read poster at this site.
This thing is on, it’s you who are off.
ET
84 gafisher // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
ET Re#80: “I act now, as Germans should have acted in the 1930’s.”
First, thank you for your past service. From what you’ve said here and elsewhere your family has given much to this country and deserves our gratitude. but this is not the 1930s, and this is not Germany.
But if it were, ET, consider that the danger Germany faced at that time was a socialist government which promised to deliver a utopia by Darwinian means. Socialism is the politico-economic system of the American Left, as it was of Germany’s National Socialists. The concept that mankind can “improve the race” by destroying the “undesirable” is the basis of abortion and the object of embryonic stem cell research as much as of Die Endlösung der Judenfrage.
_
85 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Anyone who is for the draft is at odds with currently military leaders who prefer soldiers who have chosen to join as opposed to those who were forced to. Also, if you’d like to see a listing of the soldiers of 1812, go here:
http://members.aol.com/chrishayne/war1812.htm
Kentucky lists no one from the 13th Detached Militia.
86 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 1:58 pm
gafisher,
Thank you for your kind words. I am aware of the “worthy life” dogma in Hitler’s Germany. I have to go for now, but I would like to discuss Hitler’s National Socialism with you soon.
ET
87 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Shelly,
It was Slaughter’s Regiment, Kentucky Detached Militia. The 13th, or perhaps the 15th Kentucky.
I’ve got the roster; but, I’m not going to dig it out, for you to disrespect.
“Kentucky lists no one from the 13th Detached Militia.”
No,
http://members.aol.com/chrishayne/war1812.htm
lists no 13th Detached Militia. Do you know anything about such research?
ET
88 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Shelly,
Your own link shows a 13th Kentucky – See: Simeon Hanes!
You’re a waste of time!
ET
89 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm
BTW, I had three 3rd ggfs at The Battle of New Orleans!
ET
90 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Okay, it took a short while but I’ve compiled the list of Civil War MOH recipients for Kentucky:
John Brown, 12th Kentucky, at Franklin, Tenn.
William Horsfall, 1st Kentucky, at Corinth, Miss.
Oliver Hughes, 12th Kentucky, at Weldon Railroad, Virginia
Henry Mattingly, 10th Kentucky, at Jonesboro, GA
How’s that research?
91 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm
To be precise that site names:
Simeon Hanes – Dudley 13th Reg. Kentucky Militia
92 boberinyetagain // Feb 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Don’t make me pull this car over!
93 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Shelly,
13th Kentucky means 13th Kentucky Regiment!
“Dudley 13th Reg. Kentucky Militia” means: 13th Kentucky commanded by (likely, Col.) Dudley.
All these listings are compilations, various sources show various records. I doubt anyone holding such listings would say they are complete.
I am a member of The Sons of the American Revolution. They are real fussy about such things. My records have been validated by them.
Why don’t you go back to discussing something else you know little about.
ET
94 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 4:04 pm
bober,
She keeps touching me! Make her stop!
ET
95 boberinyetagain // Feb 12, 2008 at 4:12 pm
that’s it, when we get home it’s going to right to bed w/o supper (I hate pulling over)
epstein and…Mr Kotter I’d imagine
96 boberinyetagain // Feb 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm
that’s it, when we get home it’s going to be right to bed w/o supper (I hate pulling over)
epstein and…Mr Kotter I’d imagine
hmm…it changed to “sneaked new”
now i’m stumped
97 boberinyetagain // Feb 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm
ah, that’s why…the old “double post trick”
there minnie, the answer to the age old question “where minnie?”
98 Fred Sinclair // Feb 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm
SHELLY Re#72 – “Given your newfound love for truth telling I look forward to your attempt at an adult answer.”
Shelly, we want you here, alive, well and posting regularly! So please for goodness sake DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH anticipating that “adult answer” – at the minimum, I beg you to resume breathing when your face is redder than a Valentine heart!
btw: for all of our fine ladies here at ScrappleFace – wishing you a very happy Valentine’s Day.
Heirborn Ranger
99 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Don’t worry Fred, I am fully aware of the unlikelihood that ET ever resemble an adult or real honesty. (Next I imagine he’ll tell me that the infantry and calvary are also the same.) And I hope you have a wonderful Valentine’s Day as well.
100 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
And ET, this is not an incomplete compilation:
http://www.history.army.mil/html/moh/civwaral.html
Your blatant lie about the MOH is easily, albeit not quickly, proven to be wrong.
101 Fred Sinclair // Feb 12, 2008 at 5:48 pm
e.t. – thought I would take a moment to give you some consolation.
You see, I have a rather strange ability, I am one of the few that can recognize defective DNA and chromosomal damage.
There is a genuine empathy for you and your disability. Unfortunately you have to play the hand you’re dealt. Actually, everything being considered, I think you’re doing rather well. Others, with your affliction such as Reid, Pelosi, Levin, Boxer, Kennedy, etc. have not done as well as yourself. They actually took themselves serious enough to run for office, and inflict themselves on the right thinking people of America.
At least you are intelligent enough to recognize your limitations and not follow in their footsteps. Your intellectual capacity is evidenced by your limited vocabulary. “Barfmouth”? I checked the dictionary and you know what? It isn’t there.
The contempt and loathing which I feel for your misguided, maggot gagging (yes, those ARE in the dictionary) political comments dishonoring America and our Commander in Chief are so far above your comprehensive ability to understand, that in the context of a different venue, this entire discourse would qualify for a Nobel Humorist Prize.
When it comes to being disgusting – boy, you are good!
Heirborn Ranger
102 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Fred,
Thanks alot!
You have led me to believe you’re very knowledgeable of both the letter, and meaning of the United States Constitution.
Now, if you can show me, where The United States Constitution says the president is MY Commander-In-Chief, I will be obliged to reconsider my political views.
Why don’t y’all feel free to jump in.
ET
103 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:15 pm
“Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 5:46 pm
And ET, this is not an incomplete compilation:
http://www.history.army.mil/html/moh/civwaral.html
Your blatant lie about the MOH is easily, albeit not quickly, proven to be wrong.”
I must accept your conclusion that my relative was NOT awarded the Medal of Honor. I regret, however, that you regard it as a “blatant lie”.
http://www.genealogy.com/
Copied:
(Name Withheld) was found in our data volume Roll of Honor: Civil War Union Soldiers which is part of the Genealogy Library subscription.
The 3rd Kentucky Cavalry does list his name, perhaps you might still find their exploits of interest. A record may be found at:
http://home.okstate.edu/homepages.nsf/toc/3rdCav.htm
ET
104 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:24 pm
I think BO’s Whiteness is more interesting.
105 egospeak // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:46 pm
ET Re:102 Are you being contentious simply for contentiousness sake?
In the first place, Fred never said that the President was your commander in chief… he said that he was our commander in chief. In the second, the president is the commander in chief by definition much like you are a son to your father whether you love him, hate him or simply refuse to acknowledge him. The mere fact that you don’t consider him your CIC (for political, military or any other reason) does not take that position away from him. Now if you were to renounce your citizenship……………. hmmm…
Regards,
wv – Carlos power. I’m not touching this.
106 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:00 pm
egospeak,
The President is Commander in Chief of United States Military Forces. Many here use this term “Commander in Chief” as though it is interchangeable with sovereign. Free people, such as we, have no sovereign. We did away with that at our founding.
I always believed as a citizen you had every right to criticize, and worse, Bill Clinton. Never would I challenge you patriotism for it.
ET
107 DrivebyMeteor // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Company A has just released a new brand of dog food; however, it’s not selling very well. A very upset President of the company calls a special meeting. All of the C level executives are there. The President of the company goes around the table asking for information from each person. The person in charge of marketing talks about how the marketing for the product is correct and that they are everywhere else every dog food vendor is. The person in charge of manufacturing talks about how the product is being made per specification. The person in charge of distribution talks about how there are no problems in shipping. Finally, the person in charge of testing stands up and says, “Yes, this is all great; unfortunately, the dogs won’t eat the dog food.”
Hillary Clinton and John McCain, take note.
108 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:13 pm
ET, you falsely claimed you had a relative that won the CMH. That is a lie. You falsely claimed that Bush stole the office, when every media outlet who has studied the 2000 election – including the New York Times – says otherwise. You ignore the fact that in 2004 Bush received more votes that any President in history. You call the President a “corrupt, semi-literate moron” in a comment in which you claim such a statement is “unoffensive.” You claim that the “fussy” Army equates Detached with Regular. You agree that Dudley likely led the 13th Kentucky, which you previously described as Gabriel Slaughter’s troops (admitting that they might have been the 15th). Slaughter served in the 5th Kentucky. And you claim that it is I who do not understand these things? I guess because I’m a female.
I’ll gladly stand by my assessment of blatant liar as far as you are concerned. Not to mention my comment regarding delusions. And that’s just on this thread. Are 13 and 15 the same as 5 in your world too? The one that claims such expertise?
109 mindknumbed kid // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I think there may be the possibility of a liberal socialist being elected sooner or later and I think I have figured out what the ignorant masses are so anxious to get. That” free” healthcare from Uncle Sam will give them mental health coverage, and judging from the troll droppings around here, it will be accessed quite often, especially when the nation recovers its senses and swings back to the right.
With all of the talk about BO around here, I think we need to utilize plenty of RIGHT GUARD from now until the election.
110 egospeak // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:25 pm
ET – Neither am I challenging your patriotism, nor your right to criticize, especially public officials from the lowest local official to POTUS, which, btw, is the point of the 1st Amendment.
I am not arguing whether the President is CIC of all the people or just the military forces (and I am not challenging your position that it is the latter) I’m simply pointing out that he is CIC by definition and we can’t change that just because we dislike or disagree with him.
Whether some use CIC interchangeably with sovereign is, I suppose, a matter of personal interpretation.
Regards,
death lighting – that light that people who have a near death experience see.
111 nylecoj // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm
An interesting story about one recipient on the MOH list linked above.
In 1996 a person wandering through a local (to me) cemetary noticed an unmarked grave in the old section, curious he asked who the person was and wanting to place some sort of stone for him researched his history. As it turns out the grave was the grave of the following MOH recipient. He died in 1913 four years before it was awarded. Apparently he had a g(GG?) nephew here that did not even know he had an Uncle buried there.
The local veterns gave him a full military ceremony when the stone came in. My brother was priviledged to be part of that ceremony.
BARRICK, JESSE T.
Rank and organization: Corporal, Company H, 3d Minnesota Infantry. Place and date: Near Duck River, Tenn., 26 May-2 June 1863. Entered service at: Ft. Snelling, Rice County, Minn. Born: 18 January 1841, Columbiana County, Ohio. Date of issue: 3 March 1917. Citation: While on a scout captured single-handed 2 desperate Confederate guerrilla officers who were together and well armed at the time.
112 nylecoj // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Pardon me please, he died here in 1923 (not 13) It is rumored that he had no idea about his award.He was re-interred in the Tahoma National cemetary.
113 Shelly // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm
nylecoj, I’m glad you enjoyed the link. What I found most fascinating were Frank Baldwin, John Cooper and Patrick Mullen. They won the CMH not once but TWICE. How heroic is that?
114 mindknumbed kid // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:07 pm
McShame wins Virginia…….
115 Darthmeister // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:12 pm
“Nam genus et proavos et quae non fecimus ipsi Vix ea nostra voco.” – Ovid
Birth and ancestry, and that which we have not ourselves achieved, we can scarcely call our own.
“They brag most of their ancestors who are unworthy of them.†Ancient Proverb
“Heredity is a splendid phenomenon that relieves us of responsibility for our shortcomings.†– Doug Larson
“The man who has not anything to boast of but his illustrious ancestors is like a potato – the only good belonging to him is under ground.” Sir Thomas Overby
“Some men by ancestry are only the shadow of a mighty name.†– Lucan
“Those who depend on the merits of their ancestors may be said to search in the roots of the tree for those fruits which the branches ought to produce.†– Isaac Barrow
neverthink, your constant ancestral preening is disgusting. I would venture to guess all of us here have ancestors who not only served this country honorably but received commendations for meritorous acts of heroism under fire in the face of the enemy. You’re a disgrace to your own ancestors who would have tarred and feathered you for your present perversion of patriotism and the public betrayal of your own countrymen while we are at war with an implacable enemy who wishes to visit violence upon us all if they had opportunity. Even Benedict Arnold was an America war hero until he betrayed this country, so stop regaling us with your past heroic “exploits” like carrying a loaded pistol blah, blah,blah, ad nauseam. But I guess in your eyes such “exploits” must make you a war hero, eh? Ignorant troll. Your “war hero” fantasies do not innoculate you from the judgment of others here who see through your egocentric smoke screen. If there was any virtue left in that blackened twisted heart of yours you wouldn’t be making such a pathetic public spectacle of yourself here, especially when your boasts are founded upon better men than you.
116 Fred Sinclair // Feb 12, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Speaking of the MOH I’ll share my favorite hero. I’ve read a lot about him and you can dogpile or google his name for more details.
Doug Monro is buried in Idaho and his headstone bears a plaque identifying him as the only member of the US Coast Guard to ever receive the CMOH.
A short clip from his CMOC papers. ” Munro, seeing the dangerous situation, maneuvered his boat between the enemy and those withdrawing to protect the remnants of the battalion. Successfully providing cover, all of the 500 Marines including twenty-five wounded managed to escape.
With all the Marines safely in the small craft, Munro and Evans steered their LCP off shore. As they passed towards Point Cruz they noticed an LCT full of Marines grounded on the beach. Munro steered his craft and directed another tank lighter to pull it off. Twenty minutes later, the craft was free and heading to sea. Before they could get far from shore, the Japanese set up a machine gun and began firing at the boats. Evans saw the fire and shouted a warning to Munro. The roar of the boat’s engine, however, prevented Munro from hearing and a single bullet hit him in the base of the skull. Petty Officer Munro died before reaching the operating base, but due to his extraordinary heroism, outstanding leadership and gallantry, Munro posthumously received the Medal of Honor.”
Heirborn Ranger
WV: right fielded – where Conservatives are found
117 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Fred,
Sorry for not being there for you earlier, I was busy earlier this evening.
“Your intellectual capacity is evidenced by your limited vocabulary. “Barfmouthâ€? I checked the dictionary and you know what? It isn’t there.”
Well Fred,
The salutation was: “O’ endless Barfmouth”,
Please note the use of the upper case “B”; most people would recognize that to indicate a proper noun. Is that a good answer?
You say, NO!
Well Fred, then how about “Heirborn”?
I checked the dictionary and you know what? It isn’t there either. But, you know what, “Hairbrained” is there.
Yet still the term “old fossil” leaps into my mind, so does “senile dementia”.
ET
118 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:37 pm
“You’re a disgrace to your own ancestors who would have tarred and feathered you for your present perversion of patriotism and the public betrayal of your own countrymen while we are at war with an implacable enemy who wishes to visit violence upon us all if they had opportunity.”
Look here Dummo, it’s one thing for you to offer your own whacked opinion; but it is entirely another to ascribed those same stupid thoughts to people you don’t know?
They were very different from you; they actually fought America’s wars, as did their descendants.
Did you ever raise your right hand, except to call a waitress, or to volunteer to bring biscuits to the next church social?
While we’re doing this, did I ever mention my relationship to Dumbyah?
Flash: My cousin just swept Hillary in Maryland, D.C., and Virginia!
Maybe, I’ll get to go to a ball!
ET
119 everthink // Feb 12, 2008 at 11:46 pm
egospeak,
See 106, where I say:
“The President is Commander in Chief of United States Military Forces.”
I seem to be unable to find your point in 110.
ET
120 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 12:36 am
Shelly,
“You claim that the “fussy†Army equates Detached with Regular.”
I never said that!!!!
“Slaughter served in the 5th Kentucky. And you claim that it is I who do not understand these things? I guess because I’m a female.â€
Naw, darlin it’s because yer dumb, and sorta evil!
“Thomas was drafted on November 10 1814 into General Gabriel Slaughter’s Regiment in the 15th Kentucky Militia at Sommerset Kentucky. He was assigned to Captain Evans company as a Sergeant. The company consisted of 10 companies of 789 men, included officers and enlisted men.â€
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mayes/galloway.htm
As always, your humble servant,
ET
121 Fred Sinclair // Feb 13, 2008 at 12:59 am
e.t. #117 – Wonderful!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Whether by design or accident, you have proven beyond reasonable doubt the inherent accuracy of my post. only you, caught in the throes of dementia praecox, could done it so wonderfully.
Maggot gagging garbage such as comes from your keyboard establishes the immutable fact of your dementia.
Please do continue – I bow to your superiority in making my case for me better than I an capable of doing. In the minds of my fellow Scrapplers, you easily best me in establishing yourself, in their minds as a certifiable twit. (not, of course, that any of them were in need of any additional prima facie evidence). Your anti-American, anti- morals, anti-Bush bona fides are already very well established.
Heirborn Ranger
122 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 13, 2008 at 6:31 am
I am not impressed by the Cult of Demographics which clutters the airwaves, newsprint and Internet with an endless stream of percentages emphasizing race, creed and gender. It has grown into a virulent, voracious symbiote gnawing upon the very soul of this country.
This was not a bad thing—in and of itself.
123 gafisher // Feb 13, 2008 at 6:36 am
ET Re#117: “Yet still the term “old fossil†leaps into my mind, so does “senile dementiaâ€.”
Does the senile dementia leap into your mind before or after the term you mentioned? Do you sense it as a visible manifestation, or just a sort of ‘presence?’ For how long does it seem to stay? Are you able to afford competent psychiatric care?
124 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 13, 2008 at 7:16 am
“Leaping Terms, Bat Man!”
BOINK!
BIFF!
SKRITCH!
125 egospeak // Feb 13, 2008 at 7:28 am
ET – My point in 105 and 110 is that whether by chain of command or implication (we are Americans, he is President of all Americans like it or not, the military is for the defense of America) he is our CIC.
You are ex-military as evidenced by your own bragging on this thread. Whether you agree with me or not about my belief that the POTUS is CIC of all of us or just the military, he is still your CIC by your definition even though you are no longer active.
I would be very surprised if you continued to so stridently deny that the President is your CIC, on January 21, 2009, if a Democrat is elected.
Regards,
WV: brains with – I’m not touching this one either.
126 Fred Sinclair // Feb 13, 2008 at 8:29 am
You run a “tight ship” all pretty “shipshape” as they say. Clean, neat and orderly. Without care and maintenance the first rust, rot and decay begin and left untended the ship deteriorates into nothing but a “rust bucket”, aka a derelict. Now good for nothing more than a target at sea for the Navy’s practice.
And then for a look at America’s “Ship of State” as it has been called.
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ”.
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said: “Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.â€
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority
and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law .
an oligarchy …the rule of few over many.
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S. Supreme Court
you can see near the top of the building a row of the world’s law givers and each
one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view
it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors
have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall, right above where the Supreme Court judges sit,a display of the Ten Commandments!
James Madison, the fourth president, known as “The Father of Our Constitution†made the following statement:“We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.â€
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members
of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.
Without a “Commander in Chief” (that dude what’s in charge,for those in Rio Linda and assorted trolls). to, with God’s help, turn this country back to its beginnings (roots) and restore America to the fundamental basics that in only a couple of centuries brought us to being the greatest power on earth, with the envy and admiration of all other Nations.
But as the Hebrew people learned when they turned their worship to other gods, God is not only an awesome God, but a jealous God as well.
They ended up with 400 years of slavery in Egypt – perhaps America will end up within the bonds of Islam as we sail our derelict ship into the briney deep of God’s wrath?
How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional? May God forbid!
Heirborn Ranger
127 mig // Feb 13, 2008 at 8:37 am
O.T.
LONDON, February 11, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Anglican bishop of Hereford has been ordered by a court to undergo “equal opportunities training” and pay a fine of £47,345.00, the equivalent of $92,106.00 Cn., for refusing to hire an active homosexual for a position of trust with young people. The ruling also stated that Hereford diocese staff “involved in recruitment should receive equal opportunities training”
128 Maggie // Feb 13, 2008 at 9:23 am
Which half won the Potomac for Obama?
129 DrivebyMeteor // Feb 13, 2008 at 10:04 am
Maybe it was his female half.
130 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 13, 2008 at 10:51 am
Maybe it was his wit half.
131 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 11:13 am
Egospeak,
“Whether you agree with me or not about my belief that the POTUS is CIC of all of us or just the military, he is still your CIC by your definition even though you are no longer active.”
“I would be very surprised if you continued to so stridently deny that the President is your CIC”.
Both these statements are false!
In fact, I wrote a letter to Bill Clinton once that might have proved you wrong!
I’m very disappointed with you.
ET
132 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 11:31 am
Fred,
I didn’t graduate Moody, and I couldn’t agree more with the views you have expressed about that institution.
Please Fred, allow me to ASK you; did I understand you indicate at this site, that you use marijuana?
Before you ask: I have never even touched a “toke” to my lips!
ET
133 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Say, did anyone watch the two victory speeches last night?
Wow, what a difference! May God Bless him, McCain most likely will lose very badly. What was wrong with Chuck Hagel? I liked him.
You guys have got this “my way or the highway” mentality. Well, “your way” got “elected” last time! Now, you may never get “your way” again.
You have done all these sHillary gags; but, I like her!
I think, hard as it must have been, she has kept HER marriage vow to Bill; and the need for Universal Health Care is embraced in all but a few “Dark Corners”, of the United States. Then, it is true her thighs are a little thick, but I mainly watch her face when I hear her speak.
But, alas, her chance happened to come at a time when a Barak Obama’s star was rising.
I once held some very racist views, not so much anymore. I now believe a person “should be judged by the content his character, not the color of his skin”. I once said many hateful things against MLK, Jr.; I was wrong!
My surname family once held slaves! Now a black man, whose blood carries the DNA of my white 5th ggf, is running for president.
Through my fog, I now a have a glimpse of “The Mountain Top”.
I believe God Almighty has opened my eyes.
ET
134 da Bunny // Feb 13, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Bill Clinton’s lies pale in comparison…
135 Fred Sinclair // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm
e.t. You’re so silly – Lord knows, I pray for you.
How in the name of Howdy Doody did Mary J. Wanna get her name involved. I was raised to not drink the liquid Drano, do not drink the bleach, do not be involved with lawbreakers who do illegal things (like use illegal drugs) do not eat dog poop, cow poop, horse poop or any other varient of poop! People who do those things generally suffer severe brain damage and turn out to be blithering idiots who vote for democrats.
Anyone becoming intimate with Mary J. Wanna, should do the Drano, the bleach and all of the poop first so they will at least have brain damage to blame for their lawlessness. Twelve plus million persons entering the United States illegally does not make them legal, just like millions doing Mary J. Wanna does not make them any the less lawbreakers.
Without wax,
Heirborn Ranger
P.S. I didn’t drink the Drano or any of the other idiotic things.
136 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm
da Bunny,
Maybe, it’s just your little light.
ET
137 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:13 pm
So Fred,
Is that a no!
ET
138 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Fred,
Do you prey for me, or against me?
ET
139 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Fred,
Typo – , I was on the phone. Change “prey” to “pray” will you, Heirborn.
140 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
But as the Hebrew people learned when they turned their worship to other gods, God is not only an awesome God, but a jealous God as well.
They ended up with 400 years of slavery in Egypt.
Sorry Fred, look again; I think you’ll see, you’ve got your cart in front of your horse, once more.
The self-righteous should should a least “Rightly divide the word of truth”.
Now, go to the end of the line, and start your pontification all over again.
ET
141 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Correction:
“Word of Truth”
ET
142 Shelly // Feb 13, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I see the “unoffensive” name calling and lies continue to be mistaken with intelligent debate. Elementary school bullies must be so proud!
143 Shelly // Feb 13, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Oh, and ET you might want to go to Wikipedia and change what they say about Slaughter. Seriously, thanks for all the laughs from your latest posts on this site. It’s good medicine to laugh so hard!
144 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Shelly,
Ah, do I smell an old prune stewing?
“Naw, darlin it’s because yer dumb, and sorta evil!”
Understatement, seems to be a fault of mine.
So, what was the, war hero, Governor of Kentucky; a liberal?
Now, you can’t really expect me to respond to every ignorant thing you say, can you?
Otherwise, I’ll have to be Laughing@You, again.
145 mindknumbed kid // Feb 13, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I would have to agree that the President is not necessarily the CIC of everyone in the US of A. There are a large number of individuals that are currently residing here in the US of A in an illegal state, the brave men and women of the armed forces are not their protectors and the CIC is not their commander. But for those of us born as a citizen of the US of A, those are our soldiers and he is our leader, we may not like everything that our soldiers do while defending us and ours, but as long as we are American citizens they represent us just as our elected leader represents us whether we participated in electing him or not. If you want to not support the efforts of these folks representing you it is best that you just hold your peace and wait for someone that you can support.That can be difficult to do sometimes, like for example, the Clinton years when an aspirin factory in the Sudan was targeted,but even in situations such as that you have to remember that there may be aspects of it that you do not know about. I always know that there are things that I do not know when it comes to foreign operations, etc. I am not saying that we are always right in what we do, I am just saying that we have certain responsibilities as citizens and it is always wise to think about it a long time before opposing the fighting men and women that are there for us and their leaders. This whole thing is not just the actions of the CIC, there are tons of advisors and Generals putting in their two cents. The dems would have you believe that George got up one morning and decided to go kick Saddam’s butt cause his daddy was a sore”" loser from winning the first Gulf War.
BTW, if you chose to, you can renounce your citizenship and go elsewhere.
146 JamesonLewis3rd // Feb 13, 2008 at 5:59 pm
All I need now is a Hose Extension about 1.5 billion km (934 million mi) (10 times Earth to Sun distance) long for my Shop Vac which has been custom-fitted atop a 999,999,999 gallon drum.
147 everthink // Feb 13, 2008 at 6:17 pm
MNK,
“BTW, if you chose to, you can renounce your citizenship and go elsewhere.”
Thanks, maybe you might want to consider that as your option, come January 20th next; that’s 341 days from now.
ET
148 Laughing@You // Feb 13, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Everthink, has left in a snit. I’m taking his place. Where were we?
149 gafisher // Feb 13, 2008 at 7:34 pm
L@Y Re#148: “Everthink, has left in a snit.”
Thanks for filling in for poor ET. The snit was getting rather deep.
wv – Oswald Mrs — Lee Harvey’s wife.
150 mindknumbed kid // Feb 13, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I do happen to have dual citizenship, but even with Carter and Clinton I am a content US citizen, however, when the time is right I will be gone. There is a better place, but it is reserved for certain select people, anyone can go but few will.
151 mindknumbed kid // Feb 13, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Someone sweep up the troll droppings, it is starting to smell a bit.
152 mindknumbed kid // Feb 13, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Camo – you out there lurkin’? Long thread, no post…
153 PanamaRed // Feb 13, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Re. ET:
I think I made a left turn and hit a chatroom! All I have to say is watch about who you brag about the greatness of your ancestors because they were the ones who were great, not you and people have a tendency to leave out the horse thieves who were hung. The question is “What did you do that would be recognized as an achievement among your peers?” If you have nothing, then please sit down so I can see the movie.
154 RedPepper // Feb 13, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Are there any regular commenters who have not yet received information regarding The Great Santini? If so, you can contact me by emailing
Publius@rock.com .
155 RedPepper // Feb 13, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Hmmm.
The post-eating blog strikes again …
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