(2008-01-02) — Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson today questioned whether political reporters covering the race for the White House have enough ambition for the job.
“Most of these journalists seem to lack what you might call fire in the belly,” said the former Tennessee senator. “When’s the last time you read an in-depth story about what the presidential hopefuls actually believe, or have accomplished? How often have you seen a reporter place a candidate’s views in the context of the Constitution, the sweep of American history, the intricacies of global geopolitics, economic theory or even basic political philosophy?”
Mr. Thompson said most reporting on the race fits one of three categories:
1) Results of the latest opinion poll.
2) Embarrassing gaffes and nasty remarks.
3) Reaction to one of the above.
“I’m not sure if it’s laziness, lack of ambition, or just apathy,” said Mr. Thompson, “But the American people need to know that the reporters whom they entrust with this solemn responsibility have a burning desire to fulfill the obligations of the Fourth Estate. That means you need to hustle, do your homework, ask tough questions about significant issues, put quotations in context, filter out your own natural bias, and place more value on accuracy than on speed, more on integrity than on your own petty celebrity.”
After making the remarks at a news conference, the candidate, who’s running third or fourth among Republicans in most polls, refused to answer reporters’ questions about his reaction to Mike Huckabee’s attacks on Mitt Romney.
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1 camojack // Jan 2, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Now that’s satire!
2 onlineanalyst // Jan 2, 2008 at 9:57 pm
“When’s the last time you read an in-depth story about what the presidential hopefuls actually believe, or have accomplished? How often have you seen a reporter place a candidate’s views in the context of the Constitution, the sweep of American history, the intricacies of global geopolitics, economic theory or even basic political philosophy?â€
The question assumes that today’s “journalists” have these capabilities or such education in their backgrounds. Most appear to be schooled in the People magazine era of infotainment.
Go Fred!!!
I want to continue to write checks on behalf of your campaign.
BTW I have found that a dose of Nexium® controls the fire in my belly.
OT Belated happy birthday, camojack. I thought that I had posted the sentiment here yesterday, but I forgot to type in the magic words…and the duck didn’t come down. (Old “You Bet Your Life” reference)
3 Tinman // Jan 2, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Right on!
4 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2008 at 10:16 pm
The liberal journalists mean well. They just want to help…Wasn’t there a story about an ogre that thought he was the perfect height and had an iron bed. Would catch people and put them on the bed – if they were too short he would use winch and pulley to stretch them to the “right” length, if they were too tall, he’d chop off whatever hung over the ends? long time ago and I don’t remember all the details.
The liberals are perfect in their on eyes and they want to remake everyone into their own image. Those they find with brains, (conservatives) they want to force them to a lobotomy so they can be brainless too! I used to think of the horror Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi must live with – looking into the mirror and seeing who and what they are. I’m convinced I was wrong, they look in the mirror and see perfection, they just want to benevolently help you and me be perfect like themselves. Starting with that lobotomy.
Heirborn Ranger
5 Campaign Brief Hits | Adam's Blog // Jan 2, 2008 at 10:17 pm
[...] Scrapple Face: Thompson: Political Reporters Lack Fire in the Belly [...]
6 prettyold // Jan 2, 2008 at 10:21 pm
I think Freddy’s Ready.
7 everthink // Jan 2, 2008 at 11:09 pm
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H. L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun on 26 July 1920, in an article entitled “Bayard vs. Lionheart”
Next.
ET
8 Fred Sinclair // Jan 2, 2008 at 11:21 pm
e.t. I think you’ve got something there – if (and I say if) Mrs. Bill Clinton should become President. Brought to my mind would be – “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”
This variant is spoken by Prometheus, in The Masque of Pandora (1875) by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Heirborn Ranger
9 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 2, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Sounds like Fred needs some Bromo Seltzerâ„¢
10 debass // Jan 3, 2008 at 12:55 am
The free press isn’t free anymore. They have chosen sides, which seems apparent to everyone but themselves.
11 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 1:50 am
Naw Fred, it was a life of privilege and indulgence where everything was given to him free of any accountability whatsoever. That together with booze, or cocaine, or both!
By the way, I think it will be John Edwards; but then, like Dick Cheney, I happen to also be Barack Obama’s cousin.
ET
12 camojack // Jan 3, 2008 at 3:45 am
onlineanalyst
Belated happy birthday, camojack. I thought that I had posted the sentiment here yesterday, but I forgot to type in the magic words…and the duck didn’t come down. (Old “You Bet Your Life†reference)
Thanks, dear. 50 years; almost didn’t make 40 (more than once) so for me, it’s something of an accomplishment…
13 Marblehead Regiment Blogs » Blog Archive » ScrappleFace On Fred // Jan 3, 2008 at 5:56 am
[...] again Scott Ott uses his biting satire to make an excellent point — Thompson: Political Reporters Lack ‘Fire in the Belly’ Mr. Thompson said most reporting on the race fits one of three categories: 1) Results of the latest [...]
14 bRight & Early » Blog Archive » ScrappleFace on Fred // Jan 3, 2008 at 5:58 am
[...] again Scott Ott uses his biting satire to make an excellent point — Thompson: Political Reporters Lack ‘Fire in the Belly’ Mr. Thompson said most reporting on the race fits one of three categories: 1) Results of the latest [...]
15 Beerme // Jan 3, 2008 at 6:43 am
Hey, most of the disgruntled (with Bush and the neocons) former Republicans I know are also just itching to vote for John Edwards, what a coincidence, ET! You continue to amaze us all with your credibility!
Camojack,
Sorry to be late with this Happy Birthday wish but I missed it! Have a great week, though, because when you reach a certain age, the celebration just can’t be contained within one day, ya know…
16 camojack // Jan 3, 2008 at 6:59 am
Beerme
Camojack,
Sorry to be late with this Happy Birthday wish but I missed it! Have a great week, though, because when you reach a certain age, the celebration just can’t be contained within one day, ya know…
Ah well, you know what “they” say, whomsoever “they” are:
“Better late than never!”
17 boberinyetagain // Jan 3, 2008 at 8:07 am
“They” are the Dick Van Patten family. You didn’t know that? Those folks have a lot on their plate.
18 boberinyetagain // Jan 3, 2008 at 8:10 am
Oh, and a fine observation Mr. Ott!
Question…is everyone connected with the media a liberal? Reading comments here one would think so but that seems statistically improbable.
19 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 3, 2008 at 8:11 am
It ain’t fair, I tell ya.
[FADE IN: annoying audio of crying baby]
My birthday coincides with a Prominent American’s which was once a National Holiday and then, in a cold-blooded, cruel and vicious PC Maneuver, They decided (lah-de-dah) he wasn’t prominent enough.
Hmph…..
20 JamesonLewis3rd // Jan 3, 2008 at 8:15 am
MSM == Main-Stream Media != Media
21 Pseudo-Polymath » Blog Archive » Thursday Highlights // Jan 3, 2008 at 9:01 am
[...] Heh, actually too true. (HT: Thoughts of a Regular Guy) [...]
22 OnePoliticalVoice Blogs » Blog Archive » Morning Briefing: 01.03.08 // Jan 3, 2008 at 9:26 am
[...] ScrappleFace (satire): Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson today questioned whether political reporters covering the race for the White House have enough ambition for the job. [...]
23 nylecoj // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:13 am
Re #18,
I think there may be three folks that are not.
24 boberinyetagain // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:10 am
My mistake, I did not have the latest news. Apparently “they” are now the Wayans Brothers as the Van Pattens sold the rights…
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/They
25 boberinyetagain // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:12 am
doh!
26 Thompson: Political Reporters Lack ‘Fire in the Belly’ » Pursuing Holiness // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:12 am
[...] Scrappleface: “Most of these journalists seem to lack what you might call fire in the belly,†said the former Tennessee senator. “When’s the last time you read an in-depth story about what the presidential hopefuls actually believe, or have accomplished? How often have you seen a reporter place a candidate’s views in the context of the Constitution, the sweep of American history, the intricacies of global geopolitics, economic theory or even basic political philosophy?†Why The Next President’s Foreign Policy Expertise Matters [...]
27 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:51 am
Well Beerme,
I have told you all, I was, like Hillary, a Goldwater conservative, and that I last voted Republican before Nixon’s second term. That you may recall was before the religious right took over.
I will never sell my American birthright to big business for money, or a multinational corporation even for bread.
I like Chuck Hagel pretty good though, why don’t you folks run him?
Never mind, he’s a trustworthy man, but I’m real happy with my field. How about you?
ET
PS About your sorry Lions; make that sorry about your Lions. Let see try, I’m sorry about your sorry Lions. Go Bucs!!!
28 da Bunny // Jan 3, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Entirely spot-on, as usual, Scott. So-called “reporters” just regurgitate the lastest sound-bites. debass @ #10…”chosen sides” is all too true, however it’s pretty much just the left side that they’ve chosen.
29 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Hey Beerme,
I couldn’t have been happier for the Wolverines though; best game I’ve seen this year. GO BLUE, forever!
ET
30 JQ // Jan 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I guess I’d just like to see the media coverage of elections be more educational rather than predictive. The media’s job (in my mind) is to give me as much information as possible about a candidate’s political stances, which will help me to make an educated decision as to who I want my president to be.
Don’t try to guess who the president will be a year from now; that’s my job. Don’t use words like “front-runner,” “shoo-in,” or “trailer;” those words serve to sway voter opinion with nothing more than a commentator’s vocabulary. If the masses are too stupid to make an informed decision without you leading them down the garden path, encourage them to stay home and read some Dr. Seuss; they shouldn’t be voting.
31 Jack’s Newswatch // Jan 3, 2008 at 3:57 pm
[...] Update:Â Thompson: Political Reporters Lack ‘Fire in the Belly’ [...]
32 prettyold // Jan 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Oh, come come JQ ,we all know the democratic thing is for everyone to vote, and preferably, some should vote two or three times. True Democracy in action.
And ,of course, the Masses must be told who to vote for,and who better for the job ,than the unelected Media.
33 boberinyetagain // Jan 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Lets hold elections for the media. Hopefully that would kill 2 birds no matter how many stones it takes!
34 onlineanalyst // Jan 3, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Totally OT and in the words of “Best of the Web,” “Life Imitates the Onion”:
Hold your breath in suspense here, but on January 13, Cynthia McKinney will be debating Ralph Nader for the Green Party nomination. Cindy Sheehan is the moderator.
35 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2008 at 5:54 pm
If I recall correctly. The original set up for elections was closest to perfection for a Constitutional government.
As I recall, the only people qualified to cast a vote were those persons with a vested interest in the outcome – that is …..land owners. Eligibility for voting required a person own – that’s own (without mortgage) – free and clear, a certain number of acres of land.
Quite a basis and how we ever got away from that fundamental I cannot even guess.
I recall some years ago the students at Yale University voted in new streets, parks, rec. centers, etc., and then packed their bags, went home to whatever state they called home, leaving the locals to pay for all these unnecessary things.
But the locals finally awakened and changed the law (while the students were gone on vacation) so that the students were restricted to voting only in general elections (for President) barring them from voting on any local election.
Heirborn Ranger
36 Stop The ACLU » Blog Archive » Fred Thompson: Shock the World // Jan 3, 2008 at 7:34 pm
[...] More good fun. [Permalink] [...]
37 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm
It appears that the days of flatulent oratory are not over – yet.
In fact I believe that Environmental Scientist should be able to prove that flatulence is to a tornado what mankind is to Global Warming.
The current slate of wannabees in the Republican and Democrat Primaries for the most part may be the magic “Golden BB†that envirowhacko scientists have been searching so long to find.
Perhaps a 3″ cork in their mouths – and that of their Prophet of his Church of Manmade Global warming is all it would take to solve their “problem”.
Jan. 1, 2008 “NY Times: Global Warming Claims Bogus”.
Heirborn Ranger
38 egospeak // Jan 3, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Just my humble opinion, but the only good thing to come out of Arkansas in the last 20 years is Bob Lee Swagger, Marine Corps sniper, hero of at least 4 of Steven Hunter’s novels. Pretty telling that the best thing to come out of Arkansas the last 20 years is a fictional character.
I guess you can tell I’m not a Huckabee fan, and I’m one of those evangelical Christians. Go Fred!!!!!
Regards,
39 egospeak // Jan 3, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Huckabee stole my post!
Regards,
There it is… as Emily Litella would say, “Nevermind.”
40 prettyold // Jan 3, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Fire In The Belly
To: Smoke on the Water
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum
They all came out to Dubuque,
On the Mississippi river mud,
To win the Hawkeye Caucae,
Some were smelling blood.
Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney,
Were staring each other down,
When Huckabee shot off his mouth ,
Hot Air burned the place to the ground,
Fire in the Belly,Dirt Bag Running scared
Fire In the Belly…wow!
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum
Huck said ,”Let’s get out of here”
And ran to the Democrats,
But Hill and Barak and Edwards,
Were running like scared rats.
Fred spit and put out the fire,
Said, “I’m not beating my gums,
I’ve got Fire In My Belly,
So I always carry my Tums.
Fire In My Belly, Rats and Dirtbags on the run,
Fire In My Belly,Whoa!!
Fire In My Belly, Rats and Dirtbags on the run,
Fire In My Belly,WOW!
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum
brum BRUM BRUM—-Bru-bru-be BRUM
brum BRUM BRUM—-Brum-Brum.
41 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Contacted at his girlfriend’s house, Bill Clinton was unavailable for contact regarding his wife’s third place showing in Iowa.
42 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:10 pm
… nor was Bill Clinton available for comment.
43 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:18 pm
“But Hill and Barak and Edwards, Were running like scared rats.”
Really? Since the Democrat turn out was two to one; each of them got more “votes” than the Republican “winner”.
And Obama’s count alone probably beat all the Republicans combined.
Rats if you like, but scared? I don’t think so!
brum BRUM BRUM—Brum-Brum
ET
44 prettyold // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Bill Clinton was being contacted by his girfriend ,even as he commented on Mrs Bill Clinton’s loss.
“Mrs Bill Clinton’s loss.”
I just love to write that ,shivers go up and down my spine.
45 prettyold // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Oh ,Everthink honey ,you are just too doggone literal, You write a song parody ,then,and see how easy it is. I didn’t know the results when I wrote the parody. The spoof was giving Fred some fire in his belly. Speaking of which ,I’ll bet Hillary has some fire in her belly right now.
46 Darthmeister // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:32 pm
From NewsBusters:
The quickest way to get the liberal media to pay attention to you is to claim to be a Republican who hates Republicans.
It’s also done wonders for “lifelong Republican” Henry A. Lowenstein, who has managed to get 20 different letters published in the New York Times since 2003, a remarkable feat when you consider that the Times (by its own admission) receives around 1,000 letters a day and prints only 15 on its letters page.
Subsequent Google searches revealed this so-called “Republican”, Henry A. Lowenstein, is a liar and has only contributed to Democratic candidates for the last few decades. Of course the editors at the New York Times embraces such liars since it advances their media narrative against Republicans.
_________________________________
I have told you all, I was, like Hillary, a Goldwater conservative, and that I last voted Republican before Nixon’s second term. That you may recall was before the religious right took over.
Of course a total misrepresentation of actual reality … which is par for the course for obfuscating ideologues like neverthink. BTW, by today’s definition, the original Barry Goldwater himself would be considered a “religious conservative”. So even by neverthink’s own claims, the religious right never took over the Republican Party since it was firmly in the hands of someone like Barry Goldwater who sounded just like someone from the “religious right”. See link below.
I present again, the myth of “Goldwater conservatism”. Barry Goldwater betrayed his own earlier conservative beliefs. A total scoundrel and flip-flopper in his latter days to the point of even perpetuating his own mythos to today’s braindead “moderates”! That’s the kind of “principle” neverthink so readily embraces and exults in … the Goldwater myth. What a fake.
47 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:57 pm
ouch!
It is rather “corny” seeing Hillarybeast finish third. When asked if she thought the presidential race was out of her reach she said, “Not in a pig’s eye.”
Don’t be such a soy looser.
48 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Barry Goldwater said:
“I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don’t hurt anyone else in the process.” (in a 1994 Washington Post essay)
“The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,”
“I don’t have any respect for the Religious Right.”
“Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s as(s).”
“A woman has a right to an abortion.”
Sincerely Yours,
ET
49 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:30 pm
You call Barry Goldwater “a total scoundrel”; have you no shame at all?
RIP Barry Goldwater
50 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:41 pm
e.t. # 48 – I agree with you, a woman has the same right to an abortion as you have the right to walk into a shop, stick a gun in the clerks face and pull the trigger – of course if you exercise your ‘right’ society will call on you to account for using your right and you will pay for using your freedom to commit murder. Hopefully bwo lethal injection.
The taking of human life is murder without regard to whether the victim is 99 years old or yet in the womb, Abortion butchers should get the same treatment as any other murderer, only worse – that clerk might have defended himself, the unborn boy or girl had no such option.
btw promoting and advocating murder as you have just done is justly condemned by most intelligent people.
on the other hand I read in the best seller “The Rape of Nanking” that in the 1030’s the Jap soldiers merrily rejoiced with their contests of seeing which of them could rack up the highest score of running their bayonets into the belly of pregnant women they encountered.
Of course they did so legally, spurred on by their commanding officers – just as our present day baby butcherers do so legally by virtue of the Supreme Court and their “Roe vs Wade” decision.
Heirborn Ranger
51 everthink // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:54 pm
At least Barry didn’t have a “wide stance”, he left the pages alone, and he didn’t become a lobbyist when he left office!
Oh’ yeah, and he actually served his county during wartime in the military.
Barry Goldwater was a great man!
52 Fred Sinclair // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:56 pm
It appears that the days of flatulent oratory are not over – yet.
In fact I believe that Environmental Scientist should be able to prove that flatulence is to a tornado what mankind is to Global Warming.
Algore and the current slate of wannabees in the Republican and Democrat Primaries for the most part may be the magic “Golden BB†that envirowhacko scientists have been searching so long to find.
Perhaps a 3″ cork in their mouths – and that of their Prophet of his Church of Manmade Global warming is all it would take to solve their “problem”.
Jan. 1, 2008 “NY Times: Global Warming Claims Bogus”.
Heirborn Ranger
53 everthink // Jan 4, 2008 at 12:04 am
Fred, I quoted Barry Goldwater! I made no statement about abortion.
54 Roscoe’s Public Notes » Blog Archive » links for 2008-01-04 // Jan 4, 2008 at 1:20 am
[...] Thompson: Political Reporters Lack ‘Fire in the Belly’ Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson today questioned whether political reporters covering the race for the White House have enough ambition for the job. [This is satire, folks. -R] (tags: fred_thompson Republican politics satire) [...]
55 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2008 at 4:54 am
I don’t agree – quote or no quote – to quote it is to say it. As in I would never, never, never quote some of the things I’ve read that David Duke said. Not just a matter of being PC. Some garbage should be lost in the dustbin of history, not brought back with a quote.
Nor would I quote the print on the back of a biker’s shirt in St. Petersburg, FL that probably ended up being the reason the St. Pete cops had his body taken to the morgue a day later.
Granted, he had the right of free speech, which did not help him when a Semi (or something) violated his Harley Hog. The St. Pete Times said there were no witnesses.
Not that I would have referenced the quote but if I felt it necessary I might have written, “I’ve read that Barry Goldwater states that he believes in a woman’s right to abort her baby.”
It may be considered a silver lining in the cloud by some – National Right to Life figures as of Oct 2004: “The Consequences of Roe v. Wade
48,589,993 Total Abortions since 1973″ Increasing at approx 1.3m per year the current figure is approx 52.5 million – interestingly enough, the vast majority of those abortions were done for Democrats and when Algore and JF Kerry was a bit short of votes, there were millions upon millions of Democrat votes that weren’t there for them.
A baby that would have been born in 1973 would be 34 years old now. Roughly 24 million of them would be of voting age today if only 70%were Democrat ( the estimates are actually much higher) thats approx. 16.8 million votes that won’t be there for them this fall.
Heirborn Ranger
56 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:41 am
January 1 2009
HILLARY’S FIRST NIGHT AS PRESIDENT
Hillary Clinton Was sworn in today as President. She has disposed of Bill and is spending her Her first night alone in the White House. She has waited several years for this.
FIRST NIGHT
Suddenly! The ghost of George Washington appears to her, and Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?”
Washington says, “Never tell a lie.”
“Ouch!” Says Hillary, “I don’t know about that.”
SECOND NIGHT
The next night, the ghost of Thomas Jefferson appears… Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?” Jefferson says, “Listen to the people.”
“Ohhh! I really don’t want to do that.”
THIRD NIGHT
On the third night, the ghost of Abe Lincoln appears…
Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?”
Lincoln says, “Go to the theater.”
Heirborn Ranger
57 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:44 am
[deleted, see below]
58 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:49 am
A new dawn is slowly spreading across the barren snow covered corn fields of Iowa. The chill of the night is being overtaken by the near 32 degree morning and within the barns the sounds of life is being heard as farmers tend to their livestock, be it pigs cattle or dairy farm.
Yes, this centrally located land west of the mighty Mississippi, called called Iowa by the Indians, which means “This is the place,†was indeed the place where the might presidential canidates fell and the weak stood tall.
This morning the business of putting Porter House steaks on our country’s tables and ethanol in the tanks of America’s transportation system returns to normal, “This is the place,†will no longer capture the headlines, which for the majority of Iowans is just fine.
Now, “The Place,†will return to the one of many socialistic centers of the lower 48 states, where those mighty in fleecing citizens, not sheep, will have the chance to once again gain foothold into the lower regions of the human anatomy.
Yes, Iowa was King Hog Slop for just a brief inspiring moment, but like the title of Bachman Turner Overdrive’s number one hit in 1974, according to Billboard Magazine, “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet.â€
59 Ms RightWing, Ink // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:53 am
Okay, so I edited the posting, but nothing happened. So disregard number one as my corrections were made and set in concrete in number two.
60 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2008 at 12:16 pm
An interesting lesson in how Snopes Urban Legends reveal their liberal slant, enter “Alex Rackley needed to die” and read the spin.
Heirborn Ranger
61 everthink // Jan 4, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Say Fred,
About your post 55, responding to my 48. My post was a series of guotes about how a man called “Mr. Conservative†by multitudes opposed the “Religious Right”! It was posted in rebuttal to “Beelzatoad’s†hate filled spew against me.
That was then, this is a new day and I will discuss this issue with you. I am pro-choice, NOT pro-abortion, I AM FOR CHOICE. I expect you are one those folks who call themselves “pro-life”.
If you wish, I will exchange with you, but ONLY YOU, on this subject.
“Pro-Life†folks, it seems to me , always call abortion murder; and of course, it seems to me capital punishment is also murder, and preemptive warfare is murder.
Since you are so well founded in the Scriptures;
Did The Savior himself expressly address the subject of abortion? Please don’t tell me about the time period of His life on earth, as His view was not limited.
How about when life begins?
ET
I will answer only you on this subject.
62 prettyold // Jan 4, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Well!!Harumph!! Tsk Tsk! I am
shocked,and dismayed . I didn’t realize we were allowed to have exclusive little cliques on Scrapple Face. Only MEN need apply? And only two men ,at that?
I demand we take a vote ,or caucus ,on ths subject.
I vote “NO. I also cauc No
What would Hllary say?
For Shame.
63 everthink // Jan 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm
prettyold,
Dear heart, I have no control over your posts, in fact, I’m Pro-Post; but I am also Pro-Choice in who, and what, I answer.
After all I owe so much to you, here “among my betters”!
Bravo39
64 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2008 at 4:39 pm
e.t. #61 I too am “pro-choice” but like a certain ‘religious’ group. When I use the words, I mean different things than the majority of other ‘pro-choicers’ I maintain that a woman has a choice and that choice is exercised at the moment of conception; anything and everything following is a matter of preparation to uphold the ramifications morally inherent with that choice .
An optional ‘choice’ for the woman (excluding rape and/or incest) of course is abstinence.
‘abstinence’ is a word that has fallen into disfavor as has the word ‘bastard’ which one seldom hears today, except as a derogatory word.
Heirborn Ranger
65 everthink // Jan 4, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Fred,
Do children conceived as a result of rape, or incestuous sexual intercourse have a soul?
Does God love those children less?
ET
66 everthink // Jan 4, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Fred,
[deleted]
ET
67 prettyold // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:15 pm
And it is very easy to write when you use venom as ink.
As far as letting you hang out here “amongst your betters” just look how much you have learned.
I’ve always heard the most painful insult is the insult based on truth .
68 Fred Sinclair // Jan 4, 2008 at 9:44 pm
On occasion, having actually given little or no thought whatsoever to the source, I feel total freedom in exercising my option to ignore the source; much in the manner of a St. Bernard, Great Dane or Rottweiller might give scant credibility to the fevered yapping of a Pekingese dog loudly filling the air with it’s pitiful tinny, squeaky noises trying in vain to make itself feel relevant to something.
Heirborn Ranger
69 Really?! « Vanity Press // Jan 19, 2008 at 11:28 pm
[...] the television star Fred Thompson. The knock on him is that he is lazy. “Really?â€asks Thompson. It’s the lazy reporters talking about themselves some [...]
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