(2007-03-28) — President George Bush will issue a rare veto in a nationally-televised speech within the next week according to the text of the address leaked to reporters today.
The following are excerpts from a draft of the president’s TV script.
PRESIDENT BUSH: My fellow Americans, in this folder on my desk is legislation that would pull our troops out of Iraq by March 2008, leaving that budding democracy to be ruled under Sharia law which treats goats better than it treats women, leaving this cradle of freedom in the care of men who have made slaughtering civilians an article of faith, and putting the credibility of the United States on a par with the reputation of the United Nations.
I have interrupted your favorite sitcoms tonight so that you could see me do this. I hold in my hand a veto stamp.
(OPEN FOLDER. STAMP BILL.)
Now, I hold in my hand a Zippo lighter.
(IGNITE PAPER. DROP IN TRASH CAN. CAMERA ON FLAMING PAPER, THEN BACK TO PRESIDENT.)My fellow Americans, you are not cowards. You are not losers. You are not stupid. You are not the people portrayed in the legislation now smoldering in this trashcan. Neither are you the kind of craven misfits that some of your representatives have become, who have traded votes for dollars, the lives of our fighting men for special interest projects in their home districts. That bill was so full of pork, it squealed. As it burns now, it smells like bacon.
I hope my actions tonight make clear to Congress and to our enemies around the world how I view the prospects of surrendering even an inch of ground to the kind of butchers who brought disaster to the streets of New York and the halls of the Pentagon in September 2001.
I pray that the people who thought they could terrify and paralyze us into shrinking from this battle for civilization will understand that, as long as I draw breath, they have an enemy who fears no one but God. I can say this not only because Divine Providence rules in the affairs of men, but also because this same God has raised up a generation of men and women who refuse to bow down to anyone else. Our troops are brave, bold, determined, disciplined and ready to sacrifice even their own lives for their children, their families, their country and the security of even the people who criticize them, or vote for legislation like this. They’re not seeking to be pulled out of harm’s way. They’re the kind of people who throw themselves into harm’s way to protect others.
I know that the terrorists are tuned in to modern media and are watching this broadcast. Let me speak to you now, you brainwashed tool of the devil. When you blow yourself up to kill women, children and noncombatants you will find no doe-eyed virgins waiting to feed you grapes as you recline on a couch in heaven. On the contrary, the way you leave this world is the way you will spend eternity. The burning, flesh-ripping agony you imposed on others will never stop searing your own soul. You will find that the god that you have worshiped is the father of lies, the deceiver. You will then know that the power-hungry monsters in clerical cloaks, who sent you to your death, cared nothing for you or anyone but themselves.
Because you hear my voice tonight, there’s still time for you to redeem yourself. The next time you see one of these slaughter merchants who has become your slave master, turn your blade on him and set yourself free. You will find safe haven with us.
And to Osama, Ayman, Muqtada and the rest of you, I say this: Sleep lightly boys. Even now, deadly men move silently through the darkness toward you. They will overtake you in a moment. The eyes and ears of those who will ultimately bring you down are everywhere. Your closest associates will trade your life for a pittance, because they can see you have no future. They will move against you to save themselves.
To my fellow Americans who, with good intentions, have joined the cry to bring our troops home, I don’t blame you. But a president cannot be controlled by the polls, the pundits or even Congress. Our founding fathers realized that the representatives of the people in the House and Senate could make mistakes when swayed by popular passions fanned by partisans. That’s why the president is the commander in chief. He must, from time to time, make unpopular decisions in order to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Now is such a time.
The easiest thing in the world would be for me to sign the retreat bill and join the popular chorus. But I have seen the face of evil, and I know that the United States of America has been chosen to stand in the breech at this historic moment. We’re not only standing against wickedness, but we’re marching toward a better future. We can clearly see the day when an area of the world cloaked for centuries in ignorance and hatred will finally breathe the quickening air of freedom, liberty and hope.
Whether you question my motives or understand them completely, I must do what I know to be right. God is my witness and the One to whom I must ultimately answer.
We seek no conflict. We relish no war. We despise the suffering it brings. We harbor no ill will against any but those who, for whatever motive, seek to bring conflict and suffering upon us and our allies.
To our friends and enemies alike we remain steadfast.
I call on Congress tonight to get back to work and provide funding for the troops. Stop crafting sound bites and talking points. Stop giving interviews for a week or two. Send me a bill that smells like victory, without trying to micromanage the war or boost your own reelection prospects. Set aside your own desires and career, and simply do the right thing. History will celebrate your courage.
God bless you, God bless the free people of Iraq, and God bless the United States of America.
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1 Scott Ott // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:00 am
LEAK: Bush Veto Speech on Iraq Timeline Bill…
by Scott Ott(2007-03-28) — President George Bush will issue a rare veto in a nationally-televised speech within the next week according to the text of the address leaked to reporters today.The following are excerpts from a draft of the president’s….
2 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:02 am
664 days, or less!
ET
3 DBroome // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:02 am
Bravissimo! Finer words have rarely been spoken!
4 Shelly // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:05 am
Can we revisit the Scott Ott for President thing? We need statesmen who have the courage to tell this truth. Someone who will say that buying peanut storage at the expense of thousands of Iraqi’s lives is wrong. Not to mention rooting against your own country…
5 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:06 am
WWGWD?
What would George Washington do? I’m glad the Continental Congress didn’t give him a deadline. Only about a third of Americans supported the American Revolution. The other third were loyalists and the balance didn’t care.
BTW, camojack, I voted for FDR as my favorite chickenhawk.
6 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:07 am
… Benedict Arnold ate my post!
7 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:12 am
Mr. Ott~~Bravo! Thank you! God Bless You!
God Bless America
8 Maggie // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:18 am
Scott,
On the count of 3 I will clap my hands and you will wake up.
9 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:21 am
Those are indeed moving and inspiring thoughts and words, better than will ever be said by most any President unfortunately. (Ronnie came close a time or 2 but he’s gone)
If this thing (war in the ME) had a snowball’s chance in a very warm place of actually achieving any of those goals it would actually turn me into a raving Republican but, as things stand there is zero chance of that.
The “Scott for President” idea is still quite appealing just the same.
10 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:25 am
To be fair, the bill as presented, with that load o’ pork which Scott mentions, is one of the danged dumbest things ever to come out of any legislative group.
Again…
Democrats = silly
Republicans = scary
Silly is better (but not by much)
11 Just Ranting // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:27 am
“Never give up! Never, never give up!!!” Winston Churchill
12 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:28 am
Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope.~~Romans 5:3-4
13 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:30 am
Ok geyz, let’s go for the less (than 664 days) option!
FDR had polio, Henry.
Then too, his son Elliot was killed in the war.
Has Bush lost anybody is this war?
But, until you put something on the table, and so long as you keep honking, and you will be a Chickenhawk.
ET
14 I Only Wish… : “7.62mm Justice” â„¢ // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:38 am
[...] From Scrappleface: PRESIDENT BUSH: My fellow Americans, in this folder on my desk is legislation that would pull our troops out of Iraq by March 2008, leaving that budding democracy to be ruled under Sharia law which treats goats better than it treats women, leaving this cradle of freedom in the care of men who have made slaughtering civilians an article of faith, and putting the credibility of the United States on a par with the reputation of the United Nations. [...]
15 Shelly // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:44 am
ET,
FDR had polio in 1921. That would be after WWI.
Also, fighter pilots are not “civilians.”
16 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:46 am
In this war thing Henry, you remind me of some kind of Republican welfare recipient, always telling everybody how the “program” is great.
ET
17 seneuba // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:58 am
It’s so sad to see a group of people display so much hatred for one man, simply because…
* They cannot distinguish evil from good
* They place their personal comfort over the well being their nation or of this world
* They flee in the face of any danger
* Their response to evil is to “seek to understand it” and then “to tolerate it”
18 Shelly // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:59 am
ET, you never fail to get it wrong. Dems tells us how great welfare is. Republicans try to rescue people from it, and are criticized for it by the Dems, whose main political strategy is to victimize people and keep them dependent on Dems.
19 Zim // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:04 am
Very refreshing Scott! Still laughing about the smell of bacon from the burning bill.
Can tell you’ve been reading the Federalist Papers lately – wish it was required reading for all Congressmen and women! If only…
20 CalGirl // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:32 am
Ooooh. Ouch.
If only.
21 wildhowd // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:34 am
If Abraham Lincoln were president today there would be 50 members of congress under arrest for treason
22 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:37 am
“It’s so sad to see a group of people display so much hatred for one man, simply because… ” (I assume you’re talking about Bush, not Clinton).
Everthink, maybe, it is you have have got this thing wrong?
The whole world, including Iraqi, thinks this man is evil and stupid.
Who elected him to “aid” Iraq at America’s expense.
How many lies!
You wingnuts lie, cheat, and steal to gain office, then you preform your duties as though you were not elected by the people.
Finally, when the people turn on you, and choose an alternative in relief from your governance you look for ways to blame somebody else.
ET
23 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:37 am
I’m quite aware FDR had polio and in our case we don’t believe any of those distinguished American statesmen were chickenhawk. However, by liberal definition FDR is a chickenhawk. I don’t remember you people making up exclusions. You people have said if YOU didn’t personally serve in the military and you send American troops into harm’s way, you’re a chickenhawk. So I guess that makes Clinton a chickenhawk, too.
Rationalize all you want, troll.
24 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:43 am
You wingnuts lie, cheat, and steal to gain office, then you preform your duties as though you were not elected by the people.
Neverthink, you continue in your delusion even when we post information from the liberal media itself or from source documents which undermine your “Bush lied” meme. You really do need to check into a mental health facility to get your obssessive-compulsive disorder checked out.
By the way, your hateful comment about Tony Snow is forever on record despite trying to weasel your way out of it with some flimsy apology. Apparently you’re in good company seeing what the rest of your hate-filled liberal pals are saying about Mr. Snow.
25 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:09 am
It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country.
Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
… Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things, which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. … Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
Patrick Henry
26 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:11 am
Shelly, the closest FDR got to military service (after he DID NOT heed America’s call to serve his country in World War I as you noted) was when he was “appointed” Assistant Secretary of the Navy by Woodrow Wilson. I thought I’d mention that before neverthink tries to play games with history again.
I guess the lying little troll will have to revise his understanding of history again to accomodate another “chickenhawk”, in this case FDR who, according to many leftists, led 427,000 American soldiers to their deaths fighting in a war that could have been avoided if he had acted on the intelligence he supposedly at in hand concerning the coming Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
This leftwing author claims: Franklin Roosevelt led, lied, and lured the United States into the Second World War, even going to the extreme of forcing Japan to fight. Such are the people on neverthink’s side of the aisle.
27 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:17 am
How dare you selectively quote the Christian patriot Patrick Henry. It’s a wonder your fingertips didn’t burn keying it in. PATRICK HENRY WAS ADVOCATING WAR WITH GREAT BRITIAN … a war which nearly two-thirds of Americans at that time DID NOT want to fight.
Are you that ignorant of our own American history?
28 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:19 am
Never mind, I see how you’re twisting Patrick Henry’s true sentiments in hopes of making a tangential point. Your superior “logic” defeats me again. So, you’re the Patrick Henry of our age, eh?
29 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:23 am
Henry,
I never apologized for any comment about Snow. I think false spin is a lie.
I only thought it wrong to say there were so many liars among you. I guess you were too much on my mind, at that moment.
Have you read the name of a soldier who was killed yesterday? Snow comes after him on my list.
ET
30 filcan // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:23 am
Excellent! I sincerely believe that this is too good to be a mere satire. Is there any way we can persuade or make the President actually deliver this on TV?
31 Shelly // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:23 am
“The whole world, including Iraqi, thinks this man is evil and stupid.”
Not according the the latest poll taken in Iraq:
“When asked about their lives, 71% said they were presently very good or quite good compared with 29% who thought them very or quite bad.
He told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme that the survey showed the picture of an Iraq entirely ravaged by insurgency and terrorism was wrong.
“Iraqis now have not just the chance but the reality of running Iraq for themselves, something that would have been impossible three years ago.”
We now have the two elements of the typical adolescent agrument – name calling and hyperbole. And quoting Patrick Henry only works if you, like he, are speaking truth. You’re not.
32 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:35 am
I find it entertaining (in the train-wreck sense) to watch the leftist hate-monger–marching in lock-step with satan and his vile, degenerate minions, spewing bald-faced lie after bald-faced lie–get offended by the truth.
33 seneuba // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:40 am
ET #22:
The whole world, including Iraqi, thinks this man is evil and stupid.
Having personally been to Iraq in the past 12 months (non-government and non-media related), I can say emphatically that you, ET, are either ignorant or lying. It’s pretty obvious that everything you read has the heading “From the desk of Congresswoman Pelosi”.
I urge you to go to the source and see for yourself. Talk to people who live on the Iran/Iraq border. Talk to people who live and work in major cities in Iraq. You’ll find the following:
Do they like the current security situation? No.
Do they understand the source of the problem(s)? Yes.
Do they want a long term relationship with the U.S.? Yes
Do they agree and support the mission and vision of the U.S. in liberating Iraq from the remnants of Hussein’s regime, Iran’s influence, and al Qaeda? Yes
Are they patient and willing to continue to fight the evil? Yes (They’ve lived under Sadaam’s terror for 25+ years, they know what the alternative is).
They also fully understand what this represents across the Middle East.
The biggest challenge many are facing right now? Islam is being exposed for what it is: a religion and cult of hopelessness. Their eyes are being exposed for the first time they can be free of it.
And FYI: We elect our leaders to lead – not to carry out anyone’s personal agendas. I hope and pray that my leader never ever ever looks to the polls to determine his course of action. We currently have a president who actually stands for something. This is far more than that clown who disgraced the office from 1992-2000 with his lack of morals and self control.
34 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:40 am
Darthmeister,
You mean you actually think I should not be allowed even to type the name of Patrick Henry?
What would Patrick Henry say to that?
What if we’re related? I don’t think cousin Patrick would mind if I use his name.
Actually Henry, I would prefer you didn’t use his name. Don’t you know enough quotes from The Third Reich.
ET
35 Fred Sinclair // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:56 am
When I wrotethis a couple of days ago, I had no idea of the specific, detailed way it so very perfectky provides an unerringly accurate description of neverthink and a few of his silly little buddies – frankly sometimes I amaze myself! Witness therefore:
When dealing with people who hate Snow and Bush (if you really must) always bear in mind that liberals (I started to write “suffer from…” but realize that most don’t suffer at all.) are not totally responsible. They have a genetic aberration which blocks that portion of the brain reserved for thinking.
We conservatives take it as a matter of course when we think. A liberal is incapable of rational thought. To suggest to a liberal that he stop and think is to throw a new and unfamiliar block in his path . Never having done any thinking, the concept is a puzzlement to them. So don’t be too critical of them – they’re probably doing the very best they can with what they have.
Like the brain of a parrot, they’re mainly restricted to repeating the words and phrases their masters have programmed them to repeat i.e. “Bush lied/people died” or “Bush/Hitler” or “Bush’s war for oil” – see what I mean?
Then there are those with only marginal genetic defects. They can think a little bit. Enough to know that if they can control the parrots, they can live in luxury. So they train the parrots, organize rallys to support their agenda. Such as “Anti-war rallys” “Pro Homosexusl rallys” (even providing slogans for their signs) “Anti- Tony Snow/George Bush rantings”, “Anti-Christian slogans”, etc.
No they are just a few more parrots and should be given the same level of credence.
Heirborn Ranger
36 froggy // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Very nice. They should hire you to write speeches for the White House.
Froggy
37 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Then again, some of “us” don’t think much of the idea of fighting and dying in the ME.
“We” have actually seen a bit of history, can recall quite clearly about a dozen or more ME “peace” agreements. These were worked on long and hard by the finest minds of several generations. They were signed by ernest folks amid much fanfare. Each and every one failed, most stunningly quickly.
Folks in the ME don’t think like us, not even close. The select few that do (and even many that don’t) get out of the way when real trouble starts because they too know that a resolution is NOT at hand. Some 2 million folks have left Iraq, some 2 million more have moved within the country (sure things might seem to be calming down, those that hate each other have moved apart), few are happy about the decision to do either.
What is it about “peace” in ME that you don’t get? it hasn’t come yet, hasn’t been “at hand” and won’t ever be.
Does that help at all? Prolly not….
38 Old War Dogs // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Bill’s Nibbles // Open Post — 2007.03.28…
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39 Bill's Bites // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:34 pm
2007.03.28 Iraq/Surrendercrat Roundup — Update: Iraq has bloggers! Bush reads ITM! — Update: Preview of Bush veto speech…
If only, Scott. If only….
40 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Fred,
I have never looked at it in quite that way.
Anytime you have some insight you think might help me, please, just pipe up.
ET
41 woodnwheel // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I echo the comment so often made by one of the readers: God Bless America!
42 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm
neverthink comment this thread:
I never apologized for any comment about Snow. I think false spin is a lie.
everthink’s post #25 on “Iran Blinks” thread:
It should be easy to replace Tony Snow, there are so many liars among you.
ET
Comment by everthink — March 27, 2007 @ 10:33 am
_______________________________________________
ET,
You seem nastier than usual this morning. Is that broom you ride starting to chafe?
Comment by Just Ranting — March 27, 2007 @ 10:43 am
_______________________________________________
Just Ranting,
You do have a point, sorry.
ET
Comment by everthink – March 27, 2007 @ 3:33pm
______________________________________________
My post 25 was completely out of line.
I’m sorry, disagreement is not a lie. It was not a mistake, Just Ranting got it right.
ET
Comment by everthink — March 27, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
So, you “never apologized for ANY comment about Tony Snow”, eh neverthink? Keep digging, you’re not to the bottom of the pit yet. Filthy liar, how do you live with yourself?
43 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Henry,
You sad little chickenhawk, have you found something with all that work?
If my writing was unclear yesterday, you pointed out your understanding, and I explained my meaning.
“Filthy liar, how do you live with yourself?”
Come on Henry, you are embarrassing all the other right-wing wackos.
ET
44 SassaFrassin.com » Satire, Or Not? // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:24 pm
[...] ScrappleFace: LEAK: Bush Veto Speech on Iraq Timeline Bill [...]
45 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Well, its pretty easy to see how you live with yourself, neverthink, you ignore the truth about yourself. You laugh the truth off and then launch into more ad hominems. It’s your longstanding MO. My compliments. Your “logic” defeats me again.
If FDR and Abraham Lincoln are “chickenhawks” by your definition, then I’ll gladly embrace being a chickenhawk you vemomous left-wing liar.
46 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Henry,
Do you own stilts?
ET
47 GnuCarSmell // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Well done, Scott. From another speech a few weeks ago, Bush said this about Iraq: “Let us find our resolve, and turn events toward victory.” (2007 State of the Union Address).
In a speech which was repeatedly interrupted by applause, this was the one remark that brought virtually no applause from the Democrat side of the aisle. The Republicans rose to their feet in sustained applause, but — in silent solidarity with al-Qaeda and all others who wish for America’s destruction — the Democrats sat in stone-faced contempt. For Democrats, the very suggestion of victory is so repugnant they wouldn’t even make a token show of support — even while TV cameras broadcast their petulance across the nation and the world.
It had to be a thrilling moment for our enemies.
48 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Well, maybe not all of them.
ET
49 Gop3.com: The Triumvirate » Blog Archive » If only this “leaked” speech from President Bush was true… // Mar 28, 2007 at 2:55 pm
[...] Some of the satirical posts over at ScrappleFace are so revealing you wish they were true. This is the case when I read this piece, “LEAK:Bush Veto Speech on Iraq Timeline Bill“. PRESIDENT BUSH: My fellow Americans, in this folder on my desk is legislation that would pull our troops out of Iraq by March 2008, leaving that budding democracy to be ruled under Sharia law which treats goats better than it treats women, leaving this cradle of freedom in the care of men who have made slaughtering civilians an article of faith, and putting the credibility of the United States on a par with the reputation of the United Nations. [...]
50 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 3:33 pm
More left-wing scum mocking a conservative columnist as she lay dying on her bed.
Cathy Seipp has also been villified on left-wing blogs even after it became clear she was dying of cancer. What is this disgusting pathology that drives supposedly “enlightened” liberals to engage in the most uncivil, disgusting behavior toward people they don’t agree with and can no longer defend themselves?
51 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 3:35 pm
… ET’s mothership stole my post.
52 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Gnu, you are too funny (but not in a good way)
53 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 4:08 pm
BUSH BALDERDASH ~ BAGHDAD’S BOGUS BUDDING DEMOCRACY.
Dumbyah issues goofy statement about troop withdrawal, at the end of which he says: I hold in my hand a veto stamp. (OPEN FOLDER. STAMP BILL.) The President then leans forward on the podium looks straight into the camera, does that one eyed squint of his, and says: Now, I hold in my hand a Zippo lighter. (IGNITE PAPER. DROP IN TRASH CAN. CAMERA ON FLAMING PAPER, THEN BACK TO PRESIDENT, WHO IT NOW APPEARS, TO HAVE LIT HIS SLEEVE AFIRE.)
Don’t let this happen to you Republican!
Offered as a public service by:
ET
54 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 4:21 pm
ET, seek professional help. At least learn what might and what might not be considered “amusing”
55 boberinyetagain // Mar 28, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Admittedly it’s a fine line but an important one
56 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 4:43 pm
boberinyetagain,
Thanks, but you should know by now, its hard to be all things to all people, Mr. Hyde.
It still makes me laugh!
ET
57 Dasher // Mar 28, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Scott Ott for President… or at least for the Presidential cojones!
58 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 5:52 pm
IRAQ POLL 2007
The poll was conducted by D3 Systems for the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today. More than 2,000 people were questioned in more than 450 neighbourhoods and villages across all 18 provinces of Iraq between 25 February and 5 March 2007. The margin of error is + or – 2.5%.
Q1. Overall, how would you say things are going in your life these days? Would you say things are very good, quite good, quite bad, or very bad?
2007
%
Very Good 8
Quite Good 31
Very Bad 32
Quite Bad 28
Refused/don’t know -
2005
%
Very Good 22
Quite Good 49
Very Bad 18
Quite Bad 11
Refused/don’t know 1
2004
%
Very Good 13
Quite Good57
Very Bad 14
Quite Bad 15
Refused/don’t know 1
59 upnorthlurkin // Mar 28, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Anyone concerned about the recovering culture in Baghdad can check here and put their mind at ease…..another inconvenient truth?!
(Scroll down to Catchy Caption of the Day if you please.)
60 camojack // Mar 28, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Since George W. can’t be re-elected anyway, what would he have to lose by making such a (funny, yet accurate) speech?
61 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Dumbyah can hardly speak coherently as it is. And did you see him try to ride that Segway?
It is very unwise, even dangerous, to have him try to speak, and handle fire at the same time.
Aside from that, you’re right, he doesn’t have to worry about re-election, or disgracing the nation.
ET
62 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 28, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Anyone who takes a poll conducted by anyone for the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today is desperately deluded. Especially considering the minute sample.
I mean, come on.
63 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 28, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Should read, “…..takes a poll conducted by anyone for the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today seriously…..”
64 camojack // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Lest we should EVER forget…
65 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:39 pm
JL3rd,
It’s interesting the troll decided to trot out the biased ABC/BBC/ARD/USA Today poll with its relatively small sampling after we discussed it on earlier threads about a week ago and discarded it after comparing it to the bigger British ORB poll that came out at the same time. I linked to both polls a week ago for comparison.
Only 27% of the Iraqis believe they are in a state of civil war. Interesting considering they actually live there and yet Americans have clearly been brainwashed by our own liberal media since a larger number believe Iraqi is already in a civil war despite the religious sectarian violence then being largely confined to one of eighteen provinces, the Anbar province. Only 26% preferred life under Saddam’s regime (probably mostly Sunnis no longer in power) despite the sectarian violence of the last three years. You won’t hear that on any lamestream media news report.
69% of the 5,019 Iraqis polled in all 18 provinces believed things are better or will get better. Margin of error is + 1.4%. The methodology uses multi-stage random probability sampling and covers every one of the eighteen governorates within Iraq and the interviews were conducted 10th – 22nd February 2007 before even greater strides were made in quelling sectarian violence in early March.
What is interesting is the statistic that 26% of Iraqi families claim to have had a “family member murdered” in the last three years. Given that Arab Muslims are notorious for inflating death figures this number isn’t surprising. Consider the fact if the number 26% is correct that would mean approximately two million Iraqi civilians have been “murdered” in the sectarian violence. Totally ridiculous and far beyond the equally ridiculous number published by Lancet/John Hopkins “study” of 625,000. No way in the latter case over 425 Iraqis a day, every day for the last four years have been killed without the libtard media or al Jazeera not knowing about it.
Also, what may be an even better explanation of the 26% number is the vast majority of those “family members murdered” were actually Iraqi terrorist/insurgents who were killed fighting each other, al Qaeda, the Iraqi security forces or the American military. They were anything but innocent civilian “victims”. Given the tendency of Arab Muslims to think of their own family members as being “innocent martyrs” for whatever cause (it reaches all the way to Palestine), I don’t know if we would ever get an actual number that can be trusted to reflect reality. This is not to minimize the very real suffering Iraqi Muslims and Christians are suffering because of the utter failure of Islam to live up to its billing as a “religion of peace.” Muslim murdering Muslims is clearly the fault of the Muslim culture and religion otherwise we are reduced to the ridiculous moonbat argument of the-devil-made-them-murder-each-other … the “devil” being Great Satan America and the eviiiiiiil Bush/Rove/Cheney/Halliburton/Exxon cabal.
66 Darthmeister // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:48 pm
I have to admit, one has to be pretty dumb to ride a Segway in front of the media and cameras. About as dumb as John Kerry snowboarding and wiping out in front of the media (but the media covered for Kerry). There was a recall on the Segway if I remember correctly. Yep, here’s the recall.
I remember when these things first came out one reporter hopped on one with microphone in hand and then landing on his butt within a matter of seconds when he leaned the wrong way in a turn.
67 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:50 pm
BBC World Service
23 January 2007
World View of US Role Goes From Bad to Worse
The global view of the United States’ role in world affairs has significantly deteriorated over the last year according to a BBC World Service poll of more than 26,000 people across 25 different countries.
As the United States government prepares to send a further 21,500 troops to Iraq, the survey reveals that three in four (73%) disapprove of how the US government has dealt with Iraq.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/23_01_07_us_poll.pdf
Please note date. Maybe opinions have changed!
68 everthink // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Henry,
Good point on 66.
Kerry is a klutz too! Maybe we should not let him start fires while making speeches either.
ET
69 Thralan // Mar 29, 2007 at 12:33 am
I laugh a lot at your humorous pieces but I had a hard time seeing the latter parts of this post due to moisture. Oh! how I wish that this speech would be reality. Excellent job.
70 old cro // Mar 29, 2007 at 3:23 am
Mr. Ott,
My friend, you have missed your true calling. Call Peggy Noonan for info on how to get into the presidential speech writing gig.
71 JamesonLewis3rd // Mar 29, 2007 at 5:21 am
I’m not much for signing petitions but here’s
one I couldn’t resist.
72 Darthmeister // Mar 29, 2007 at 7:48 am
How to Win Against the Terrorists in Iraq.
I doubt many Congresscritters vested in American defeat in Iraq are intested in the lessons of history. Fortunately General Petraeus, who has written his own manual on counterinsurgency warfare, realizes its not the sheer number of troops that win wars, but rather the tactics used to win ground neighboorhood by neighborhood and keeping it in the hands of the legitimate indigenous government. And its probably true that Iraqi and al Qaeda terrorists are at least as ruthless as the FLN was in Algeria which is all the more reason for them to be defeated to keep Iraq. Iraq and Afghanistan must be kept from becoming a future staging ground of Islamic radicalism which has made it clear it wants to strike into the heart of America – an international vision that the North Vietnamese and Muslim terrorists organizations like the FLN never had. We saw what happened with the Taliban and al Qaeda cabal in Afghanistan pre-911.
But I fear no amount of reason can reach those who have prematurely invested themselves in a “woe is me/us, all is lost” defeatism, particularly since one party in particular sees it as a means to politically acquire more power in America and possibly even the presidency in 2008. If that happens America will be on a Democratic trajectory to lose in Iraq and eventually the entire war on terrorism as it seeks to appease and placate Islamism in its naive quest for “peace” with implacable murderers.
73 Rock Slatestone // Mar 29, 2007 at 10:01 am
The Liberal Congress has made a stinky-stinky.
74 Wish Fulfillment « Colorado Right // Mar 29, 2007 at 1:06 pm
[...] Wish Fulfillment I certainly wish that what Scott Ott at Scrappleface would actually occur: The following are excerpts from a draft of the president’s TV script. [...]
75 sourdough // Mar 29, 2007 at 3:59 pm
I never cease to be amazed by the common liberal tact of resorting to insult and name calling when they come to the end of reason. Often a very short ride. Sadly often my conservative brothers respond in kind with an answering name calling. If “everthink” has to resort to lies, insults and name calling and attacking the defenseless please bear in mind that you don’t have to magnify his ineptitude at the art of debate for the sake of debate.
Often simply ignoring commentary on the p[art of these individuals will result in their getting bored listening to themselves and, then, simply go away.
If nothing else you haven’t wasted your time on someone whose mind is already made up, correct or not.
76 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. // Mar 30, 2007 at 6:08 am
I have a question for you, NeverThink:
How do you counterbalance a poll of over 5000 Iraqis that says life is getting better?
Answer: take a poll of only 2000 Iraqis and make sure it’s unrepresentative of the Iraqi population. Hint: oversample the Sunnis: you know, the dissafection minority who used to lord it over the rest of the country under Saddam, but now have to share power with everyone else under a democratic system of government. They routinely skew negative in every single poll.
Can you say sampling bias boys and girls?
I knew that you could. Reading is fundamental.
77 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. // Mar 30, 2007 at 6:09 am
Whoops! that was “disaffected”, not “disaffection”. Never post comments without the reading glasses.
78 dlb703 // Mar 31, 2007 at 6:46 am
Thanks Scott…when can you begin your new speechwriting job in the Whitehouse?
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