(2006-12-11) — Former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, 91, died this weekend, and therefore will “miss out on the golden age of tolerance that is dawning worldwide for men like him” according a United Nations source.
“Pinochet was a man ahead of his time,” said an unnamed U.N. official. “For the past 30 years, the world has largely scorned power-hungry tyrants who subjugate and slaughter others to achieve their egocentric ambitions under the guise of love of country or of God.”
But today, the source noted. men like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad receive the honor of speaking at the U.N. General Assembly, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and Moktada al-Sadr are worshiped and allowed to control the governments of Lebanon and Iraq by proxy, and the world’s superpowers convene diplomatic conferences at the pleasure of North Korean President Kim Jong-Il.
“Pinochet died just as the rest of the world was catching up to his progressive thinking,” the source added. “Today, he would win a Nobel Peace Prize.”
83 responses so far ↓
1 MargeinMI // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:32 am
God Bless America!
2 MargeinMI // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:34 am
Fortunately, instead of the Peace Prize, he’s dining at a special table with like company in the Hot Spot.
3 MargeinMI // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:38 am
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! It’s Monday morning, time to rise and shine and get moving!!!!!! (Except camojack, who can go to bed now.)
4 Scott Ott // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:50 am
Pinochet Dies As Age of Tyrant-Tolerance Dawns…
by Scott Ott(2006-12-11) — Former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, 91, died this weekend, and therefore will “miss out on the golden age of tolerance that is dawning worldwide for men like him†according a United Nations source.“Pinochet was …
5 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:10 am
So. ScrappleFace Forum is no more?
6 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:22 am
Voting in the 2006 Weblog Awards ends Friday. ScrappleFace is still 2nd behind that liberal blog in the Best Humor Blog category.
7 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:35 am
Yes, and with many on the left are saying Iraq was better off under the tyrant Saddam Hussein, it all makes complete sense.
Don’t worry Scott, the left will do their darndest to resurrect the golden age of tyrants from the old Soviet Union to Fidel Castro to Saddam Hussein.
8 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:50 am
Kofi Annan, in his (wa-a-ay overdue) farewell speech today, will be blasting the United States of America for all that is wrong in the world:
“The speech, to be delivered at the presidential library of the late Harry Truman in Independence, Mo., contrasts Truman’s support for the United Nations with the Bush administration’s unilateral actions.”
What a classic example of argumentum ad hominem! What a jerk.
9 gafisher // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:02 am
Pinochet wasn’t anointed as a member of the Axis of Evil, a prerequisite for global honors today. If only he’d considered building a few nukes, or at least a Baby Milk plant . . .
10 RedPepper // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:07 am
JL3: I’m sure we can find something for Kofi to do in retirement … maybe Jimmy Carter can use his help coddling third-world tyrants, f’rinstance …
11 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:09 am
I think it is time to condemn the UN property in New York. The building has been there to long and I am sure multinational cockroaches infest the annoying structure.
Surely we can find a place to re-build somewhere in tin-pot Central America.
I for one, am glad the forum is gone. It was to scary and gave me nightmares. Boo
12 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:10 am
or maybe Tinpot, Central America
13 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:18 am
This Cover Story – HS Today November 2006 Vol. 3, No.11 By Walid Phares entitled “JIHAD VERSUS EDUCATION” has some very interesting things to say. (HS = Homeland Security)
A couple of excerpts:
“One of the [9/11] commissioners, during the summer 2004 hearings, asked repeatedly: ‘Why didn’t the US government acknowledge that a war was declared in 1996 and in 1998 against America?’
“Many US leaders and commentators after him added: Why hadn’t we declared war back at them, before the attacks took place, if, indeed, the jihadists have been on the offensive for a decade?”
and
“For it is clear to connoisseurs of jihadism that mutation is one of its essential characteristics. It should also be understood that, given its ideology and history, jihadism, far from being a mere emotional reaction to American or other foreign policies, “is†by itself a movement with goals, strategies and changing tactics.”
and
“Those who spread the doctrine of jihadism in America during the 1990s had no counter check from the public or government, while even a minimal manifestation of Nazism, anti- Semitism or domestic violent racism was quickly countered. Clearly, Americans never lacked for imagination, but they were deprived of the necessary information.”
In my opinion, this is profound stuff.
14 Roguet55 // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:19 am
Well the area was overdue for a riot anyway!
The golden age of Tolerance indeed, Nevil Chamberlain and his ilk must be very happy these days!
15 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:42 am
A REPOST FROM FORUM
Conserve-a-tip:
I am not Bystander!
Re: 1 Timothy 2:2, and 1 Peter 2:13-17.
“Rule by Divine Right,†Conserve-a-tip? Maybe it is you who does not know “the Christian view of governmentâ€; or maybe it is American government you don’t understand.
Do you know why we celebrate Independence Day?
The Thirteen Colonies that were the founding states here in America were once British. If you believe the founders were godly Christian men, and if you believe the “Rule by Divine Right” must be respected by Christians, why are we not British subjects today?
You believed Bill Clinton violated his oath, and you pushed for his removal; it was your right and your duty to do so; but by your reasoning Christians did not have that right.
Also consider the Nuremberg War Trials; obedience to authority was the defense the Nazis of WWII used as an excuse for war crimes. We hung them!
Re: Government’s role in general welfare of the people.
The Preamble of Constitution of the United States:
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Now, you just can’t have it both ways, Conserve-a-tip.
On the one hand you conservatives insist our government was founded on Christian principles, and that our government must always follow those principles by enacting laws regarding marriage, adoption, the right to die, privacy, gambling, what kind of business may be done on Sunday, or to prohibit business on Sunday altogether, you want Christian views taught, and prayers to be said in our public schools. And you want your churches to be tax exempt. You will insist to the last, that we are a Christian nation. Then on the other, you would you then deny the practice by the government of the most fundamental tenets of Christianity in taking “care of the poor, the hungry, the hurting, and the sick�
Christians say they will always give freely to the needy. Surely, you don’t want to let non-Christians off the hook altogether, do you?
“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.†Matthew 25:40 KJV
Now Henry, et al; please try to resist the temptation to write a few thousand words in a futile attempt to twist Holy Writ to fit your hateful politics.
16 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:54 am
Oh. So it’s okay for you to clog this blog with nonsense but it’s not okay for anyone to refute it. Typical.
Needless to say, however, your diatribe does not change the fact that a Socialist State is a non-Christian concept.
17 Maggie // Dec 11, 2006 at 10:41 am
JL3rd re#8
To top it off, Chuck Hagle (RINO) has been selected to introduce Kofi.Maybe after this tirade Kofi Annan will becom Kofi Annon.
18 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 11:05 am
RE: #17~~
Maggie~~
Yes. I saw a bit on FOX News this morning; they were wondering if he (Hagel) shouldn’t back out of the “honor.” Not that it matters, anyway–Barack Hussein Obama is our next president.
Also: They are getting ready to renovate the U.N. building–at a cost of over $1,000,000,000. The Donald says he can do it for a mere $700,000,000. I say, invest in a box of dynamite.
19 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 11:17 am
everthink
I don’t know where you bought your KJV Bible but you might check–it may be printed in China.
Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. KJV
40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ NKJV
40 “The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’ NIV
That is all I have to say.
20 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 11:29 am
If you never heard the copy of Stan Freberg’s Green Christmas (circa 1958) it would be worth your effort to find one. You see in this humorous satire that nothing much has changed about Christmas since we got our first bicycle or Erector Setâ„¢
Ho hum–Merry Christmas
21 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 11:57 am
Also consider the Nuremberg War Trials; obedience to authority was the defense the Nazis of WWII used as an excuse for war crimes. We hung them!
If President Bush has engaged America in an immoral and illegal war in Iraq (thus making him a despot worthy of being overthrown) as those on your side of the aisle have endlessly whined, I wonder if you have the intellectual honesty to declare our own American soldiers and their commanding officers as guilty of war crimes since their only defense was their “blind obedience to authority”? Somehow I doubt you will, thus your own unwillingness to condemn them too undermines the anti-war crowd’s contention that this war was either illegal or immoral. Of course you can squirm off the hook by merely opining the war was “ill advised” but then what little respect I already have for you would totally evaporate.
Now Henry, et al; please try to resist the temptation to write a few thousand words in a futile attempt to twist Holy Writ to fit your hateful politics.
So, you gutless wonder, your misapplication of that verse undermines the entire principle of God moving the hearts of kings to battle evildoers, which is pretty standard fare for intellectual lightweights like you. In one fell swoop you’ve condemned every Christian person who served America with honor in combat zones as little more disobedient haters of God and their fellow man. By your warped theology a Christian in good conscience couldn’t serve as a police officer because he may be called upon to either shot a perp or subdue him with force.
Thank God you aren’t a serious theologian or nations based on time-tested Judeo-Christian principles would be in great trouble with your torturous theological mish-mash which warps Scripture to suit your own perverted political agenda. You continue to engaged in your self-imposed ignorance regarding the fact Scripture often makes distinctions between the responsibilities and power of God’s ministers in government (Romans 13:1-8) and those restraints imposed upon the private citizen. Where do we even get the concept of vigilantism except from the fact that individuals are said to usurp the power of judgment and death that is divinely reserved for governmental authorities? Doh!
22 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:00 pm
Ms RightWing, Ink
You’re right my quotation was from NASB and not KJV. Your quote is correct. Thank you.
23 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:05 pm
REAL NEWSFLASH!
Incoming House Intelligence Chief Botches Easy Intel Quiz
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-TX), who incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has tapped to head the Intelligence Committee when the Democrats take over in January, failed a quiz of basic questions about al Qaeda and Hezbollah, two of the key terrorist organizations the intelligence community has focused on since the September 11, 2001 attacks.
When asked by CQ National Security Editor Jeff Stein whether al Qaeda is one or the other of the two major branches of Islam — Sunni or Shiite — Reyes answered “they are probably both,” then ventured “Predominantly — probably Shiite.”
That is wrong. Al Qaeda was founded by Osama bin Laden as a Sunni organization and views Shiites as heretics.
Reyes could also not answer questions put by Stein about Hezbollah, a Shiite group on the U.S. list of terrorist organizations that is based in Southern Lebanon.
Stein’s column about Reyes’ answers was published on CQ’s Web site Friday evening.
In an interview with CNN, Stein said he was “amazed” by Reyes’ lack of what he considers basic information about two of the major terrorists organizations.
“If you’re the baseball commissioner and you don’t know the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox, you don’t know baseball,” Stein said. “You’re not going to have the respect of the people you work with.”
Folks, we’re in a heap of trouble when these morons start trying to ram their ignorant peace-at-any-cost foreign policy down the executive branch’s throat once they get in power.
24 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:11 pm
gutless wonder?
Happy Veteran’s Day to you too, Henry.
25 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:23 pm
As to your intepretative warping of the U.S. Constitution’s preamble, as I and others have noted before, the constitution merely empowers government to “promote the general welfare” and not “provide welfare“.
To “promote the general welfare” was a call by the American founders for the federal government to create a legal and political environment not hostile to either the natural rights of its citizenry or the citizenry’s free industry thereof. Government was not to restrain the economic power of the people through overly harsh taxation or regulatory regime. It certainly wasn’t a call to create a welfare state. You’re certainly welcomed to warp the Constitution to fit your socialist world-view, but you won’t find one founder who believed the new federal government was empowered to create any kind of an entitlement or welfare state.
You you can find such a founding principle that government was suppose to involve itself in charity, by all means post it here. Like informed modern Christians, the founders believed charity began at home and was to be encouraged by the Church, the government was not to be the conduit.
At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Scottish history professor, Alexander Tyler, had this to say about “The Fall of the Athenian Republic” over 2,000 years ago:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
And I believe we are already seeing that corrupting influence of welfare politics on our own government.
26 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:44 pm
What, were these your people we’re talking about here Darthmiester?
“Also consider the Nuremberg War Trials; obedience to authority was the defense the Nazis of WWII used as an excuse for war crimes. We hung them!”
Is this statement not true?
Does it say anything about German soldiers?
27 GnuCarSmell // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:51 pm
The Forum is gone? I put on this silly toga for nothing? Very well, back to my familiar loincloth…
Pinochet may be gone, but we still have Pinot Gris (and Pinot Noir for those who prefer a robust red). Always try to look at the glass as half-full.
28 Ghoti // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:56 pm
gafisher, I admire your ability to make powerful, thought-provoking and usually hilarious comments with such brevity.
darthmeister, I admire your obvious intelligence and ability to provide indepth analysis.
Ms RightWing, Ink, I admire the image I have of you as an intelligent, warm, loving person with a great sense of humor.
Thanks to all of you, including those I failed to mention – and especially Scott Ott – for sharing your knowledge and humor each day. May God bless all of you.
29 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 12:57 pm
“If President Bush has engaged America in an immoral and illegal war in Iraq (thus making him a despot worthy of being overthrown)”.
Despotic kings are overthown. Despotic American Presidents are to be impeached; or are, like Nixon, allowed to resign.
President Bush thinks it will take 150-200 years to judge his presidency; I think the jury has already returned a verdict.
30 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:02 pm
“darthmeister, I admire your obvious intelligence and ability to provide indepth analysis.”
Good grief!
31 hwy93 // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:06 pm
I think the jury has already returned a verdict
Everthink and Alec Baldwin have made up their mind. That’s good enough for me. Assuming that this Jury was made up of President Bush’s Peer’s, Could you name them for me so that I might know whether or not to give their opinion any credence?
32 hwy93 // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:07 pm
lol, you got to admit, that was amusing.
33 Ghoti // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:14 pm
Everthink, I admire your ability to keep us all ever-aware of the need for self-defense. I give thanks to God for creating us all equal, but not alike.
As with my litters of Manx kittens; some are bobbed, some nubbed, some long-tailed; they have varying personalities; some are more pleasant than others, and easier to love, but all are equal.
34 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Hwy93,
Yes, I guess it just Alec Baldwin, George Clooney, and me; but then, we have so many things in common.
Dumbyah’s Peers? Make me wonder where to look?
35 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 1:55 pm
France deploys drones to stop Israeli overflights in Lebanon…
While allowing Hezbollah to rearm right beneath their very Phrench noses.
Kofi Annan Faults Bush in Last Address…
Of course he does, Islamic militantism is all Bush’s fault. President Bush and America should have turned the other cheek. Plus we know everything the UN and Koffi put their hands to was a glowing success, even the fraud and corruption.
36 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Ghoti
Thanks for the comments. To some I am that kind of person, in my Government sponsored living quarters (apartment) I am an arrogant know it all because only half have a high school diploma and the other half wouldn’t know education if it bit them………
Still I find some of the least educated folks I know are the most charming. It is not all the sheepskins hanging on my wall that makes me who I am, it is the thousands of folks I have met on my way through life of whom I picked up an ounce of joy here a tincture of wisdom there and a howdy handful of pure laughter from the shake of a hand over there.
Still there are those who hate happiness, Grinches I believe is what they call them.
37 Ms RightWing, Ink // Dec 11, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Isn’t there a three strikes and you are out law? There should be
NEW YORK — Peace activist Cindy Sheehan and three other women were convicted of trespassing Monday for trying to deliver an anti-Iraq war petition to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations and refusing to leave.
A Manhattan Criminal Court judge sentenced them immediately to conditional discharge, which means they could face some form of penalty if they are arrested in the next six months, and ordered them to pay $95 in court surcharges.
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/10509135/detail.html
38 RedPepper // Dec 11, 2006 at 2:19 pm
#36 MsRW: Ignore the Grinches – enjoy the Christmas season!
Perhaps this will help.
A Blonde is at the Post Office to buy postage for her Christmas cards. She asks the clerk
for fifty stamps. The postal clerk asks her, “What denomination?†The Blonde thinks for a bit and replies, “Give me 6 Catholic, 12 Presbyterian, 10 Lutheran and 22 Baptist.â€
39 everthink // Dec 11, 2006 at 2:32 pm
So Hank, which verse are you haranguing about here?
“So, you gutless wonder, your misapplication of that verse undermines the entire principle of God moving the hearts of kings to battle evildoers, which is pretty standard fare for intellectual lightweights like you.”
And, where did you get this idea?
“… to usurp the power of judgment and death that is divinely reserved for governmental authorities?”
That is positively un-American!
40 antodav // Dec 11, 2006 at 3:13 pm
I think someone should point out the fact here, as we’re busily condemning Augusto Pinochet, that he came to power as a result of a U.S.-supported coup….
The Nixon Administration was probably the worst offender in this regard, but every Cold War-era administration was guilty of it to some degree: while the policy of containment was in effect, the United States had an awful habit of supporting the overthrow of democratically elected governments and their replacement with military dictatorships, as long as the dictators were anti-communist.
This selfish, short-sighted, and hypocritical foreign policy is a big part of why the United States is so mistrusted in the Third World today, and why there are so many people out there trying to kill us. True, Pinochet may have eventually brought Chile to economic prosperity, but he stained his hands with a great deal of blood in the process.
George W. Bush is the first president since the end of the isolationist era to recognize that our foreign policy needs to based on more solid principles than simply “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Under the Bush Doctrine the U.S. is not only supporting regimes that support our interests and opposing those who don’t; it’s also supporting regimes that support our [b]values[/b]–that is, democratic principles and respect for human rights.
Sadly, this is actually a drastic change in American foreign policy, and it’s come far too late. We have a lot of work to do in the Third World if we want to repair our image as the guardians of freedom and democracy worldwide. It’s going to take a very long time.
41 antodav // Dec 11, 2006 at 3:17 pm
*values…dang it, I did it again.
By the way, I want to make it clear here that I’m not trying to say that the U.S. shouldn’t have fought against the spread of communism during the Cold War. I’m just saying we should have done it smarter. In order to defeat one evil, we helped countless others either come to or stay in power. In the war we are fighting now we are basically reaping what we sowed–if we had actually practiced what we preached during the latter half of the 20th Century, American soldiers wouldn’t be dying in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, and maybe the Twin Towers would still be there.
42 Analchord // Dec 11, 2006 at 3:37 pm
I’d rather have a pinot noir than a pinochet. (pinnochio, 1939)
43 conserve-a-tips // Dec 11, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Re #15: L@Y aka Everthink – First, let me say that I find your response not very well thought out and not very deep…but be that as it may, let me assure you that I, for one, think that all churches should pay taxes. The scripture says to “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God that which is God’s.” Churches are not following that if they do not pay taxes. Now, I can hear the screaming over church/state issues, but nowhere in the constitution does it say ANYTHING about the separation of church and state OTHER then Congress not being allowed to make any law regarding the establishment of a state religion.
OK. Now that we have that cleared, you ask me if I am going to let nonChristians off the hook in giving. Forcing them to give is actually letting them off the hook. If the giving is not done willingly, then it is useless and pointless and they are still “on the hook”. God deals with each and every one of us and so we, as Christians, had better worry about our own actions and do what is right and good and let others deal with their own consciences, if they have one. I read a statistic that if every church in the US would adopt two families to help find jobs, get on their feet, have plenty of food and clothes ect., there would be no need for welfare. Pretty staggering concept. That is what brought me to the point, where I am, regarding the project to which I alluded on the last forum. If Christians would do what they should, the nonChristians might actually be touched. Remember, “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked man from among you.” 1 Corintinans 5:12-13
And so, in living our daily lives, yes, it is right to have laws that govern all of us in moral and ethical areas because what governs us as Christians will affect those who are not Christians. Take stealing for example. By your argument, we should not make stealing illegal because it is based on Mosaic law and in some cultures, stealing is fine if you feel that you have been wronged. But in our culture, which is based on Mosaic law, everybody falls under the edict whether they accept Judaeo/Christian mores or not. Gay marriage is a perfect example. Our family structure in this country, based on the Christian/Jewish model has been the backbone of the society. There is a recognition that changing the definition of what constitutes a marriage is not only immoral for the Christian, but bad for the society as a whole. I am sorry, but your argument is flawed and flimsy.
And finally, I would like to share with you a quote from a speech made on the floor of the House by Rep. Davy Crockett in response to a bill that had been offered to give money to the widow of a navy officer:
Mr. Speaker…I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker…I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him. Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and, if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.
When Crockett finished, the bill failed. A colleague, Horatio Bunce had told him, “…the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes…The power of collecting and dispursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be entrusted to man…You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other…for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitiution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people.”
If you have not read the two volume Debate On the Constitution, I would highly encourage you to purchase them as you will have access to every speech and paper made or written concerning the beginning of this country. Fascinating stuff and a far cry from what we have made our government today. And remember…it starts with you. Thinking that the government should do for others what they should be doing themselves just enables others to shirk their responsibilities. Charitable giving is top on that list.
44 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 4:30 pm
Wow. You folks make me proud to be a Scrappler.
I hope and pray all is well with you and yours.
God Bless You.
God Bless America.
45 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 4:31 pm
By the way, been here, yet?
http://www.tomdelay.com/
46 conserve-a-tips // Dec 11, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Oh yes, and I left off something…this idea of yours of the “rule by divine right.” You have totally twisted what the scripture says. The scripture says that yes, God has placed everyone in authority with the right to govern, and therefore, we are to offer respect to that person in office, but that person also has an obligation, out of the enormity of the honor bestowed on him, to rule in a Godly manner. If he/she chooses not to do that, then God can and will take them down, either by Himself or through other people. Just check out how He used armies to take out ungodly societies in the Old Testament.
You forget, evidently, what happened to the kingdom of Israel as a result of rulers who rebelled against God. The entire nation disappeared except for the kingdom of Judah. And what is most ironic is that Israel’s downhill ride started when they demanded from Samuel that they have a ruler – a king like everybody else – and so God said to give them their king because, “they have rejected me as their king.” 1 Samuel 8:7
This nation is no better and no worse then Israel was and He can take us out too if we don’t put Him first.
47 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 5:23 pm
There are those who hate happiness…
I think you’re on to something, Ms RightWing. Some people find a perverted sense of dignity and self-worth if they always run around unhappy or go out of their way to be offended by this or that. They essentially turn the martyr’s complex into an artform and in the process make everyone else around them unhappy, too.
Civil societies aren’t built on people whose lives are defined in bitter recriminations that always slam government not to their liking or the basic traditions that define the culture they live in. Rather than move elsewhere (as Jesus said, “Shake the dust off your feet”) to a place where they would be much happier with a lot less strife in their life, it then becomes that unhappy person’s life ambition to make everyone else’s life miserable and remake society into their own image.
See, these perpetually critical people have just found some meaning in their miserable little lives and have found happiness in their unhappiness … just like some Scrapple-trolls that infest this site from time to time displaying their deep-seated masochistic pathology. Perfect candidates for a lifetime supply of Prozacâ„¢ – if not for their sake, ours.
48 rightlinx.com » Blog Archive » Laugh Links // Dec 11, 2006 at 5:35 pm
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49 bystander // Dec 11, 2006 at 5:42 pm
“Don’t worry Scott, the left will do their darndest to resurrect the golden age of tyrants from the old Soviet Union to Fidel Castro to Saddam Hussein.”
I don’t know that that is solely reserved for the Democrats! It seems to be a National trait that I could never comprehend as invariably we get stung badly in the end backing these guys.
“Batista had always leaned toward the United States. I don’t think we ever had a better friend. It was regrettable, like all South Americans, that he was known-although I had no absolute knowledge of it-to be getting a cut, I think is the word for it, in almost all the, things that were done. But, on the other hand, he was doing an amazing job.” – Republican U.S. Ambassador to Cuba Arthur Gardner
Also please do remember that I believe Mr Cheney used to confab with Saddam back in the days of the Iraq/Iran war, if I am not mistaken.
50 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 5:56 pm
“… to usurp the power of judgment and death that is divinely reserved for governmental authorities?â€
This is postively un-American.”
Au contrare
ALEXANDER HAMILTON – “This is what is called the law of nature, ‘which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself’, is, of course, superior in obligations to any other, It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original.Upon this law depend the natural rights of mankind: The Supreme Being gave existence to man, together with the means of preserving and beautifying that existence. He endowed (man) with inviolable right to personal liberty and personal safety. Hence, in a state of nature, no man had moral power to deprive another of his life, limbs, property, or liberty; nor the least authority to command or exact obedience from him … Hence, also, the origin of all civil government.”
This founding view was not exclusive to Mr. Hamilton.
First Supreme Court Justice John Jay who was appointed by George Washington: “The moral or natural law was given by the Sovereign of the Universe to all mankind; with them it was co-eval, and with them it will be co-existent. Being founded by infinite wisdom and goodness on essential right, which never varies, it can require no amendment or alteration … I advert to this distinction between moral law and positive institutions, because it enables us to distinguish the reasonings which apply to the one, from those which apply only to the other – ordinances being mutable, but the moral law always the same.” Letter to John Murray, April 15, 1818
Positively un-America? Hardly.
If you stumble over the phrase “divinely reserved”, then ignore it, everything else I’ve said about vigilantism is true. The whole concept of vigilantism is predicated upon the idea that a private citizen is usurping powers that are reserved for government, that of declaring wars, executing criminals, passing judgment on the accused, etc.
The beatitudes was given for the sake of the individual sinner, not for the sake of Caesar. Yes, when governments become tyrannical by violating its responsibility in fairly dispensing the law and protecting its citizenry from evildoers (AGAIN Romans 13:1-8), then those governments should be dissolved. Implicit with this passage of Holy Writ is the idea that if government causes universal fear in the law-abiding citizenry then it is no longer a legitimate authority.
But a small minority of carping troublemakers doesn’t make a just revolution against legitimate authority. The America left has consistently crossed the line between principled dissent based on unvarnished truth and outright sedition by plying its own dangerous lies and disinformation that have been documented on this site time and time and time again – Plamegate, the no WMD rant, the “Bush lied” meme, the Downing Street Memo kerfuffle, the bogus Lancet and John Hopkins studies of Iraqi civilian deaths, using hate-Bush/anti-America rhetoric which sounds eerily like that of our Islamofascist enemies.
51 GnuCarSmell // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:01 pm
U.S. and Israeli military planners will hold a conference to determine if a country called Iran actually exists. Strategic weapons experts are expected to testify that the existence of Iran may prove to have been an elaborate hoax.
52 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:01 pm
Also please do remember that I believe Mr Cheney used to confab with Saddam back in the days of the Iraq/Iran war, if I am not mistaken.
You have to get your talking points straight, bystander, the leftist rant is it was Rumsfeld that was kissing up to Saddam, not Cheney. Cheney was too busy stealing ill-gotten millions from poor third world countries vis a vis Halliburton.
53 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:13 pm
YEAH!!!!! CHUCK NORRIS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.
Chuck Norris is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
Chuck Norris counted to infinity – twice.
54 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Chuck Norris was the fourth wise man, who gave baby Jesus the gift of beard, which he carried with him until he died. The other three wise men were enraged by the preference that Jesus showed to Chuck’s gift, and arranged to have him written out of the Bible. All three died soon after of mysterious roundhouse-kick related injuries.
55 mig // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Pinot Grigio Veneto for me. Thank you. Coffee by day, wine by night. Okay.
I would wear party colors for Pinochet but definatley black for Kirkpatrick…
56 JamesonLewis3rd // Dec 11, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Audrey Hudson reports in today’s Washington Times that CAIR has undertaken the representation of five of the six flying imams and that they are seeking an out-of-court settlement of a claim against US Airways based on their removal from Flight 300.
I think I’ll sue CAIR and the flying imams. I’ll settle.
I’ll settle for their expulsion from United States of American soil.
What gall. They want PAID for acting like ——-s. Grrrrr…..
57 // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:10 pm
RE:15
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The preamble neither grants any governmental powers nor inhibits any of its actions, but serves to explain the rationale behind the U.S. Constitution.
As Joseph Story wrote in his commentaries, “Its true office is to expound the nature and extent and application of the powers actually conferred by the Constitution, and not substantively to create them.
58 // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:12 pm
Apparently, I was caught in “the great software upgrade” of 2006 as well.
#57 is from Preston
How can I fix this again?
59 Deema // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:13 pm
This is my prequel to whatever brilliance Scott is going to write tomorrow on Kofi Annan’s going away speech. Mine is in the form of a top-ten list. Other Scrappleface fans should feel free to join in.
Things I learned at the UN:
1. Marble for palaces is expensive and Saddam likes lots and lots of marble.
2. Kofi Jr. is the smartest business persons since futures trader extraordinaire Hillary Rodham Clinton.
3. “Janjaweed” – whatever that is – cannot be smoked, and George Clooney or some other Hollywood asscaptain doesn’t like it, so its probably best not to mention it at Democratic Party fundraisers (er, dinner parties)
4. Every photo opportunity with Barak Obama is like hitting ‘reset’ on the videogame as far as the media is concerned: all is forgiven, you get a bunch of new lives, and go on like nothing happened.
5. When in doubt: Bush did it.
6. The twenty block limo ride from the UN to George Soros’ apartment provides just the right amount of time to get blown by Katie Couric.
7. You have to be directly or indirectly responsible for the death of a significant number of people to get the Noble Prize. Just a few won’t cut it. Hence, Yasser Arafat gets one, but not the Unabomber. Lesson to self: spend more time with Hamas reps.
8. When further in doubt, ask the French, they have all the answers.
9. Note to self: there’s nothing stupid Americans love more than a sad-eyed, America-hating, dictator-coddling, corruption-enabling, pseudo-articulate, platitude-laying, ersatz-intellectual representative-of-all-victims “internationalist”
10. When you buy your fiftieth tuxedo at Bergdorf’s, you get the fifty-first free!
60 Deema // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Oops. The numbers, above, should go the other way (10 down to 1).
61 bystander // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:18 pm
Rumsfeld not Cheney – Yes, you are right, I stand corrected.
Of course that was not the main point of my comment – which was that backing tin-pot dictator rulers is not the exclusive trait of one party or the other. Our government continues the practice, no matter which party is in office and it is always at our peril.
62 camojack // Dec 11, 2006 at 7:30 pm
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! It’s Monday morning, time to rise and shine and get moving!!!!!! (Except camojack, who can go to bed now.)
Comment by MargeinMI — December 11, 2006 @ 7:38 am
Oh, I was way ahead of you this morning; Mondays are not so great for me either.
But ON topic…maybe Pinochet “saw the light” before he died.
63 kajun // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:08 pm
In Response To The Okie:
I have never taken a tax deduction for charitable giving (or tything) and never will…to me, that would not be giving.
64 Darthmeister // Dec 11, 2006 at 8:39 pm
kajun,
I don’t take a tax deduction for charitable giving either, only I’m not as altruistic as you are. I can’t itemize enough deductions (though I do qualify to deduct real estate taxes and the interest on my mortgage as well as our charitable giving) so I end up taking the standard deduction.
Wouldn’t want to get into any arguments about whether ones charity should be based on a tenth of ones gross income or adjusted income either … just give generously. A widow’s mite given in faith is far more of an aroma to God than billions from a multi-billionaire. To whom much is given, much is required.
65 conserve-a-tips // Dec 11, 2006 at 9:04 pm
Darthmeister and Kajun, bless you both.
66 Analchord // Dec 11, 2006 at 10:22 pm
This blog reads like The Oxbow Incident. I be expectin’ that I wont be respectin’ no man what donts live by the code.
67 conserve-a-tips // Dec 12, 2006 at 12:09 am
Ya aimin’ ta hang us, then, padnah?
68 R.A.M. // Dec 12, 2006 at 1:54 am
The two most popular guys in America today,—–Barack and Borat.
One of them is an actor playing a “role”, and the other one is a comedian. You figure out which is which.
God help us!
BTW, I personally think Rosie is a ‘hetro-phobe’. She is now making fun of Asian people.
I’m sure she will pay the same price Shaq did when he made fun of Yao——NOTHING! I even heard Bill O’Reilly defend her last night.
That fact HAS to be the most rediculous item of the day!
69 Rock Slatestone // Dec 12, 2006 at 1:55 am
“Merry Christmas Mr Potter.” – George Bailey
70 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 6:27 am
Barack Obama is an empty suit. If he were to ever become President, may God save this country from this Manchurian Candidate. This guy has done absolutely nothing as a Senator, all talk and no substance … the perfect Democratic candidate if I were to hazard a guess.
Some people have wondered whether he is “black enough” since his mother was white and his father was Kenyan. This creates a real irony in that some American blacks might not see Obama as “black enough” and at another level the real “African-American” is Barack Obama. But I guess technically he would be a “Kenyan-American”. But I’m sure a vast majority of black Americans see Obama as being just like them … since he’s a Democrat! We’ve already seen their attitude toward black Republicans like Condoleeza Rice or Clarence Thomas, they’re “Uncle Toms”.
This shows you the total mish-mash which results because of the left’s insatiable desire to put politically correct labels on minorities. It’s wrong to call those from the Far East “Orientals”, but rather they are “Asians”. When I asked one Korean what he wanted to be called, he said “Korean”. Another said, “America”. No takers for “Asian”. Go figure.
As one black comedian noted (I paraphrase): I still can’t figure out if I’m colored, a negro, an Afro-American, black American or African-American. All I know is I’m me … now give me your wallet!” (laughter).
However, if Obama were to rope-a-dope his way into office, according to liberals he wouldn’t be the first “black” President, that honor goes to William Jefferson Clinton. Shows you what kind of “reality-based community” liberals often are, and the confusing, pejorative nature of their racial labels.
71 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 6:31 am
Captain Obvious to the rescue!
72 RedPepper // Dec 12, 2006 at 6:53 am
In honor of Kofi’s retirement :
TOP TEN U.N. SLOGANS
———————————
10. IF AN IMPOTENT, BLOATED BUREAUCRACY CAN’T SOLVE IT, IT’S BEST LEFT FESTERING.
9. YOU CAN’T SPELL “UNETHICAL†WITHOUT U. N.
8. GENOCIDAL DICTATORS, BEWARE OUR NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS.
7. BRINGING PEACE TO OUR WORLD (ACTUAL RESULTS MAY VARY).
6. TOMORROW’S CORRUPTION TODAY.
5. RAISING POINTLESS SQUABBLING TO AN ART FORM.
4. WE TAKE BRIBES SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO.
3. TRY OUR WORLD FAMOUS CHEESY FRIES.
2. IF TROUBLES ABOUND, WE’LL BE NEARBY DOING NOTHING.
1. IF THIS IS AN EMERGENCY PLEASE HANG UP AND DIAL AMERICA.
73 everthink // Dec 12, 2006 at 8:46 am
Apparently, the slogan “Stay the Course†has been abandoned in favor of “The Way Forewordâ€.
So there it is, I think the President has found the problem; IT WAS THE SLOGAN!
That should fix the problem; but if it doesn’t, I think that he should adopt the Infantry’s slogan: “FOLLOW ME!â€
74 Analchord // Dec 12, 2006 at 9:05 am
I pray that Obama is an empty suit, with no agenda whatsoever. We’ve had enough agenda. Lets have nothing for a while. I kinda like that. I kinda like that real good.
75 everthink // Dec 12, 2006 at 9:18 am
forward
76 gafisher // Dec 12, 2006 at 9:51 am
Ghoti, I appreciate your kind words, your ability and willingness to express them, and your command of the rules of English spelling.
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77 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 11:40 am
Analchord,
Put another way, gridlock is good.
With Republicans recently proving that Americans are still suspicious of big-spending, big-government, one has to wonder how the DemDonks will try to triangulate in the coming two years since the Republicans proved to be the Lite-version of normally big spending Demoncrats and got defeated as a result. I think most people understand wars involve expensive funding, but earmarks which lead to $200 million bridges which lead to nowhere are definitely out. Let’s see if the DemDonks are able to deny their natural impulses to create an expensive nanny state in the next two to four years.
78 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 2:36 pm
From LGF:
Lifestyles of the Rich and Fascist
79 Ghoti // Dec 12, 2006 at 2:51 pm
I’ve searched for Barack, Al Obama on my GPS. I think it’s fake.
80 Analchord // Dec 12, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Darthmeister, are you saying that you cant make a silk parse out of a sow’s earmark?
I’m worried now because I think I understood that.
81 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Here we go, parsing the issue again. Is nothing sacred anymore? Where can a beloved tyrant find a safe haven from the evils of democracy? Tyrants need love, too.
82 Darthmeister // Dec 12, 2006 at 6:54 pm
BTW, is the “sow’s earmark” a veiled reference to Nancy Pelosi or sHrillary Clinton?
83 Analchord // Dec 13, 2006 at 6:18 am
Glad you liked the material, sir. I’d do power. I’d do power in a new york minute. I might be half conservative, half tax cuts, (and the other half nuke iran), but I aint gay. Hillary. Pelosi. Tipper Gore. Elizabeth Dole. Condi Rice!! Ann Coulter. I fell in love with Ann at first sight. I couldn’t believe such a creature could exist, and her delivery!!!! Life could be a dream. Sha na na nahhhh……
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