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		<title>By: Sites That Don&#8217;t Suck&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dems want repeal of 2002 bill, GOP offers trade</title>
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		<description>[...] Democrats in the Senate plan to introduce a measure next week to repeal the 2002 Iraq war authorization, and Republicans have already announced theyâ€™re willing to discuss the bill in exchange for Democrat support of a measure repealing the 1935 Social Security Act. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Democrats in the Senate plan to introduce a measure next week to repeal the 2002 Iraq war authorization, and Republicans have already announced theyâ€™re willing to discuss the bill in exchange for Democrat support of a measure repealing the 1935 Social Security Act. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mig</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227479</link>
		<dc:creator>mig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;â€œA nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.â€&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Cicero&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>â€œA nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.â€</i><br />
<b>Cicero</b></p>
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		<title>By: mig</title>
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		<dc:creator>mig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few things that popped out at me when I was reading a pro-life site on population control.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pop.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Population Research Institute. &lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;Now that the party of death has retaken control of Congress,...The pompously named CEDAW, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, sounds on its face not to be too bad, just clumsy and utopian.  Yet it is a totalitarian piece of social engineering that aims to do everything from legalize abortion-on-demand worldwide to abolish Mother&#039;s Day (no joke). &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt; And&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Western leftists talk incessantly about respecting other cultures, the self-determination of all peoples, the importance of Western nations refraining from meddling in the internal affairs of small countries, the evils of imperialism including economic and cultural imperialism, and the great undesirability of the worldâ€™s ongoing cultural homogenization.  So, surely, in the face of such a unanimous democratic decision taken by the elected representatives of the Nicaraguan people based on traditional Latin American culture, Western leftists are content to leave Nicaragua alone over this issue? &lt;/i&gt; (This country voted against making abortions legal)&lt;i&gt;

Of course not.  Leftists are the biggest economic and cultural imperialists of the modern world, determined to impose their values upon every single people and sub-group of people on the planet.  Nicaraguaâ€™s pro-life law is coming under a two-pronged attack: The European Union and other donors are threatening to cut aid to this poor country if abortion isnâ€™t legalized, and there is the inevitable lawsuitâ€”since it is the practice of leftists everywhere to abrogate democracy when it suits them
and seek to overturn decisions made by elected legislators through unelected judges.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few things that popped out at me when I was reading a pro-life site on population control.<a href="http://www.pop.org/" rel="nofollow"> Population Research Institute. </a> </p>
<p><i>Now that the party of death has retaken control of Congress,&#8230;The pompously named CEDAW, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, sounds on its face not to be too bad, just clumsy and utopian.  Yet it is a totalitarian piece of social engineering that aims to do everything from legalize abortion-on-demand worldwide to abolish Mother&#8217;s Day (no joke). </i></p>
<p><b> And</b></p>
<p><i>Western leftists talk incessantly about respecting other cultures, the self-determination of all peoples, the importance of Western nations refraining from meddling in the internal affairs of small countries, the evils of imperialism including economic and cultural imperialism, and the great undesirability of the worldâ€™s ongoing cultural homogenization.  So, surely, in the face of such a unanimous democratic decision taken by the elected representatives of the Nicaraguan people based on traditional Latin American culture, Western leftists are content to leave Nicaragua alone over this issue? </i> (This country voted against making abortions legal)<i></p>
<p>Of course not.  Leftists are the biggest economic and cultural imperialists of the modern world, determined to impose their values upon every single people and sub-group of people on the planet.  Nicaraguaâ€™s pro-life law is coming under a two-pronged attack: The European Union and other donors are threatening to cut aid to this poor country if abortion isnâ€™t legalized, and there is the inevitable lawsuitâ€”since it is the practice of leftists everywhere to abrogate democracy when it suits them<br />
and seek to overturn decisions made by elected legislators through unelected judges.</i></p>
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		<title>By: mig</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227476</link>
		<dc:creator>mig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(#24)And then at the end of that article he tells people to turn off the tv... I guess if they don&#039;t hear it from the media first it will seem like Obama is original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(#24)And then at the end of that article he tells people to turn off the tv&#8230; I guess if they don&#8217;t hear it from the media first it will seem like Obama is original.</p>
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		<title>By: Darthmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227442</link>
		<dc:creator>Darthmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>onlineanalyst, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_el_pr/obama2008&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barack Osama Obama&lt;/a&gt; just jumped into the don&#039;t-question-my-partriotism-by-questioning-my-judgment-and-naivetÃ© fray. His inanities are even worst than panty-wetter Pelosi.

The man is a mind-numbed robot. All he does he repeat the media narrative which claimed that Blair reducing troops totals (which don&#039;t even begin until late Spring) is a sign that the &quot;military solution&quot; has run its course in Iraq and that we&#039;ve lost! What a media tool. But I don&#039;t know if its a matter of the dog wagging the tail or vice versa when it comes to the liberal media and the DemDonks surrender monkeys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>onlineanalyst, <a HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_el_pr/obama2008" rel="nofollow">Barack Osama Obama</a> just jumped into the don&#8217;t-question-my-partriotism-by-questioning-my-judgment-and-naivetÃ© fray. His inanities are even worst than panty-wetter Pelosi.</p>
<p>The man is a mind-numbed robot. All he does he repeat the media narrative which claimed that Blair reducing troops totals (which don&#8217;t even begin until late Spring) is a sign that the &#8220;military solution&#8221; has run its course in Iraq and that we&#8217;ve lost! What a media tool. But I don&#8217;t know if its a matter of the dog wagging the tail or vice versa when it comes to the liberal media and the DemDonks surrender monkeys.</p>
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		<title>By: Darthmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227441</link>
		<dc:creator>Darthmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, bober, are you saying &quot;we&#039;ve lost&quot; in Iraq simply because we&#039;re taking casualties? And do you know what &quot;losing&quot; is like in a GWOT? And don&#039;t cop out by citing Vietnam, that was completely different circumstances from how that war incrementally started as compared to this one and the fact there is no national army (like the NVA) supporting the Iraqi &quot;insurgency&quot;.

And if you are advocating we should cut-and-run in Iraq, how about Afghanistan which could prove even more difficult in the long run? Should we just pack up our bags and let terrorists begin using these countries as training grounds and a springboard for future 9/11s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, bober, are you saying &#8220;we&#8217;ve lost&#8221; in Iraq simply because we&#8217;re taking casualties? And do you know what &#8220;losing&#8221; is like in a GWOT? And don&#8217;t cop out by citing Vietnam, that was completely different circumstances from how that war incrementally started as compared to this one and the fact there is no national army (like the NVA) supporting the Iraqi &#8220;insurgency&#8221;.</p>
<p>And if you are advocating we should cut-and-run in Iraq, how about Afghanistan which could prove even more difficult in the long run? Should we just pack up our bags and let terrorists begin using these countries as training grounds and a springboard for future 9/11s?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227440</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been no pill invented that will cure liberalism. (so far)
The only &quot;sure cure&quot; is grace through faith in Jesus.

&quot;There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the
people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than
by violent and sudden usurpations.&quot; ---James Madison

Heirborn Ranger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been no pill invented that will cure liberalism. (so far)<br />
The only &#8220;sure cure&#8221; is grace through faith in Jesus.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the<br />
people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than<br />
by violent and sudden usurpations.&#8221; &#8212;James Madison</p>
<p>Heirborn Ranger</p>
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		<title>By: onlineanalyst</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227439</link>
		<dc:creator>onlineanalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from powerlineblog today:

&quot;A few days ago, Dick Cheney challenged Nancy Pelosi on Iraq, saying that pulling out, as she advocates, would play into the hands of the terrorists. Pelosi resorted to the old &quot;How dare he question my patriotism&quot; dodge, and complained to President Bush&#039;s Chief of Staff, Josh Bolten. Now, Cheney says he isn&#039;t backing down:

&quot;&lt;b&gt;During Friday&#039;s interview in Sydney with ABC News, Cheney said, &#039;I&#039;m not sure what part of it is that Nancy disagreed with. She accused me of questioning her patriotism. I didn&#039;t question her patriotism. I questioned her judgment.&lt;/b&gt;&#039; 

&quot;&#039;You also have to be accountable for the results. What are the consequences of that? What happens if we withdraw from Iraq?,&quot; he said. &quot;And the point I made and I&#039;ll make it again is that al-Qaida functions on the basis that they think they can break our will. That&#039;s their fundamental underlying strategy, that if they can kill enough Americans or cause enough havoc, create enough chaos in Iraq, then we&#039;ll quit and go home. And my statement was that if we adopt the Pelosi policy, that then we will validate the strategy of al-Qaida. I said it and I meant it.&#039;

&quot;Asked if he was willing to take back his criticism of Pelosi, Cheney replied, &#039;I&#039;m not backing down.&#039;

&quot;&lt;b&gt;This gets to the heart of the Democrats&#039; problem. They can&#039;t deny that precipitous withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster, they just don&#039;t want to talk about it. And if you bring it up, they say you&#039;re questioning their patriotism.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Therein lies the problem:  Cheney is just too logical for Pelosi and her ilk of fellow travelers. They weasel around with words and turn a debate into an emotionally riddled he-said, she-said.  The Dhimmis have no sense of the militant Islamic mind-set and its respect for resolve and its disdain for the weak.  The jihadists view the West as soft and dithering; they must be deriving their perceptions from the sound bites of our most-vocal Defeatocrats.  

Even in Iran, it is said that Mookie Ahmadaboutjihad gets his understanding of the West from watching CNN. Whose views get the most airtime and whose faces dominate their perceptions of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from powerlineblog today:</p>
<p>&#8220;A few days ago, Dick Cheney challenged Nancy Pelosi on Iraq, saying that pulling out, as she advocates, would play into the hands of the terrorists. Pelosi resorted to the old &#8220;How dare he question my patriotism&#8221; dodge, and complained to President Bush&#8217;s Chief of Staff, Josh Bolten. Now, Cheney says he isn&#8217;t backing down:</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>During Friday&#8217;s interview in Sydney with ABC News, Cheney said, &#8216;I&#8217;m not sure what part of it is that Nancy disagreed with. She accused me of questioning her patriotism. I didn&#8217;t question her patriotism. I questioned her judgment.</b>&#8216; </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;You also have to be accountable for the results. What are the consequences of that? What happens if we withdraw from Iraq?,&#8221; he said. &#8220;And the point I made and I&#8217;ll make it again is that al-Qaida functions on the basis that they think they can break our will. That&#8217;s their fundamental underlying strategy, that if they can kill enough Americans or cause enough havoc, create enough chaos in Iraq, then we&#8217;ll quit and go home. And my statement was that if we adopt the Pelosi policy, that then we will validate the strategy of al-Qaida. I said it and I meant it.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Asked if he was willing to take back his criticism of Pelosi, Cheney replied, &#8216;I&#8217;m not backing down.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>This gets to the heart of the Democrats&#8217; problem. They can&#8217;t deny that precipitous withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster, they just don&#8217;t want to talk about it. And if you bring it up, they say you&#8217;re questioning their patriotism.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Therein lies the problem:  Cheney is just too logical for Pelosi and her ilk of fellow travelers. They weasel around with words and turn a debate into an emotionally riddled he-said, she-said.  The Dhimmis have no sense of the militant Islamic mind-set and its respect for resolve and its disdain for the weak.  The jihadists view the West as soft and dithering; they must be deriving their perceptions from the sound bites of our most-vocal Defeatocrats.  </p>
<p>Even in Iran, it is said that Mookie Ahmadaboutjihad gets his understanding of the West from watching CNN. Whose views get the most airtime and whose faces dominate their perceptions of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Darthmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darthmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bober, are you still going to deny that 500 WMD munitions weren&#039;t found in Iraq? That there still exists the very real possibility the rest of Saddam&#039;s WMD were moved to Iraq in the preceeding months?

Forget what the lamestream media and left-wing hack bloggers are saying. Also, was the October 2002 Joint Congressional Resolution wrong about Saddam firing on Coalition aircraft in the No Fly Zone or Saddam&#039;s attempt on George Herbert Walker Bush&#039;s life or Saddam murdering his own people including the Kurds or Iraq increasingly becoming a rogue nation ...?

Just wondering how far YOU are going to go in your own denial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bober, are you still going to deny that 500 WMD munitions weren&#8217;t found in Iraq? That there still exists the very real possibility the rest of Saddam&#8217;s WMD were moved to Iraq in the preceeding months?</p>
<p>Forget what the lamestream media and left-wing hack bloggers are saying. Also, was the October 2002 Joint Congressional Resolution wrong about Saddam firing on Coalition aircraft in the No Fly Zone or Saddam&#8217;s attempt on George Herbert Walker Bush&#8217;s life or Saddam murdering his own people including the Kurds or Iraq increasingly becoming a rogue nation &#8230;?</p>
<p>Just wondering how far YOU are going to go in your own denial.</p>
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		<title>By: onlineanalyst</title>
		<link>http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2498&#038;cpage=1#comment-227428</link>
		<dc:creator>onlineanalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dems are also avidly working on a new &lt;i&gt;comprehensive&lt;/i&gt; immigration bill that will put illegals on the &quot;path to citizenship&quot; even faster.

The current breadth of and further expansion of entitlement programs will bankrupt us well before our commitment to national security will.  And the latter is the one clearly defined in the &lt;i&gt;Constitution&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems are also avidly working on a new <i>comprehensive</i> immigration bill that will put illegals on the &#8220;path to citizenship&#8221; even faster.</p>
<p>The current breadth of and further expansion of entitlement programs will bankrupt us well before our commitment to national security will.  And the latter is the one clearly defined in the <i>Constitution</i>.</p>
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